REDSOX MISS A EASY POP UP

[Led Zeppelin]

Originally posted by: element

Originally posted by: RedPickle
Cause Arroyo is a Red Sox player. Thats why. All of them are dirty.

You forgot pussies. Veritek fights Arod with his mask still on to avoid getting hurt in his babysh!t face. aww poow widdwe tekie...

lmao, A-Fraud said "C'MON". You want Tek to stop, take his mask off, then mess up A-Frauds blonde tips? Doesn't work that way, he opened his blowhole and paid for it.

Oh by the way, it's 8-2 now, another Sox asskicking, and we're into the Yankees depleted bullpen.

 

[Insane3D]

LMAO....these threads are all the same.

 

[GeneralGrievous]

Arroyo threw a fast ball right at ARod. He was struggling, but not with his control last night.

That is some sick aim to hit arod right on the elbow. If he had that kind of control he'd be a better pitcher.

You forgot pussies. Veritek fights Arod with his mask still on to avoid getting hurt in his babysh!t face

As I said yesterday, you don't have time to think. Foolish yankee fan.

Yankees are the most hated team in baseball cause they are always the favorites to win.

No, they are hated because they abuse the rest of the MLB with higher salaries than other teams can afford. Their entire team is overpaid, Jeter making as much as Bonds does is an utter joke.

The Sox are up in the season series, and not by a small margin. Being 8.5 or 7.5 games up doesn't matter in the playoffs.

 

[Gurck]

oh boy a new thread to get involved with... yes, the red sox are winning this game... yes, they'll still be 7.5 games back. Yes, even on the off-chance that both a) the sox win every single game remaining in this season and b) the yankees lose every single game remaining in this season, the Babe would find a way to keep them from entering and/or winning the series So really, why bother being happy if you're a sux fan?

 

[GeneralGrievous]

And the yankees will get their ass handed to them at some point in the playoffs, george steinbrenner will throw a hissy fit, and they'll shell out $250 million next year. So really, why bother being a Yankee fan?

 

[RedPickle]

Originally posted by: GeneralGrievous

Arroyo threw a fast ball right at ARod. He was struggling, but not with his control last night.

That is some sick aim to hit arod right on the elbow. If he had that kind of control he'd be a better pitcher.

You forgot pussies. Veritek fights Arod with his mask still on to avoid getting hurt in his babysh!t face

As I said yesterday, you don't have time to think. Foolish yankee fan.

Yankees are the most hated team in baseball cause they are always the favorites to win.

No, they are hated because they abuse the rest of the MLB with higher salaries than other teams can afford. Their entire team is overpaid, Jeter making as much as Bonds does is an utter joke.

The Sox are up in the season series, and not by a small margin. Being 8.5 or 7.5 games up doesn't matter in the playoffs.

OK your analysis of posts is starting to annoy me. You make no sense. He was obviously not aiming simply for ARod's elbow, but just ARod in general. And believe me, if your a major league pitcher you should be able to hit a person if you really want to. You say Varitek didn't have time to think, and yet he had time to exchange words with ARod, walk him down first, and get in his face. His first instinct as a catcher when a ball is popped up in foul territory is to throw away his mask. Its not THAT hard to throw his mask down. Finally, the Yankees abusing the MLB with higher salaries is a JOKE. First off they have a slew of home grown players: Derek Jeter, Jorge Posada, Bernie Williams, Mariano Rivera. They didn't draw them to the Yankees with a huge contract. They did not sign ARod's to his contract.

Kevin Brown = $15.7 mil
Jason Giambi= $12.4 mil
Steve Karsay= $6 mil
Mike Mussina= $16 mil
Total $50.1 million

That would be close to 30% of the Yankee salary on the D/L itself and the Yanks STILL have the best record in the AL. Money proves nothing.

 

[RedPickle]

Originally posted by: GeneralGrievous
And the yankees will get their ass handed to them at some point in the playoffs, george steinbrenner will throw a hissy fit, and they'll shell out $250 million next year. So really, why bother being a Yankee fan?

Because our owner is WILLING to shell out more money to improve his team, unlike some Red Sox owner I know...:roll:

 

[RedPickle]

Originally posted by: Gurck
oh boy a new thread to get involved with... yes, the red sox are winning this game... yes, they'll still be 7.5 games back. Yes, even on the off-chance that both a) the sox win every single game remaining in this season and b) the yankees lose every single game remaining in this season, the Babe would find a way to keep them from entering and/or winning the series So really, why bother being happy if you're a sux fan?

HI GURCK!!!

 

[RedPickle]

Man this game is getting out of hand. We are getting beat badly. Ortiz should NOT be playing after his suspension, thats BS.

 

[GeneralGrievous]

He was obviously not aiming simply for ARod's elbow, but just ARod in general. And believe me, if your a major league pitcher you should be able to hit a person if you really want to.

Complete BS. If that was intentional, so was the Contreras one today.

You say Varitek didn't have time to think, and yet he had time to exchange words with ARod, walk him down first, and get in his face.

All of which happened in the course of a whopping 3-4 seconds. He didn't plan on fighitng arod either, it took less than a second for him to punch Arod after the "come on" talk.

And if varitek can have time to think to remove his mask, Tanyon has time to realize he has Kapler in a chokehold.

Money proves nothing.

Keep telling yourself that. It may not guarantee victory but it is certainly an advantage.

Finally, the Yankees abusing the MLB with higher salaries is a JOKE.

It is, from the MLB's point of view. How they can allow such degradation of their sport is beyond me. The yankees are one of the reasons baseball is on a decline compared to football and basketball.

First off they have a slew of home grown players: Derek Jeter, Jorge Posada, Bernie Williams, Mariano Rivera.

How many players are on a baseball team? How many prospects have the yankees dumped in the past few years?

 

[element]

Originally posted by: GeneralGrievous
And the yankees will get their ass handed to them at some point in the playoffs, george steinbrenner will throw a hissy fit, and they'll shell out $250 million next year. So really, why bother being a Yankee fan?

Because they win more often than the pitiful sux? Because they don't fight like immature pansies? Because their pitchers don't hit batters on a regular basis? Because Derek Jeter isn't afraid to "take one for the team" and get his face busted up catching a fly ball whereas PansyTek fights with his mask on?

shall i go on?

 

[GeneralGrievous]

Please do. There are other teams in the league besides the red sox and yankees, many of which fulfill the above criteria. I think the word you are looking for is frontrunner.

Even if the yankees beat the red sox in a playoff series, they'll get smacked around by the cardinals, a team with real hitting talent and not washed up trash.

 

[isekii]

Yanks are coming back again~!!

Grand Slam.

lol

"Godzilla just attacked the Redsox Nation"

 

[RedPickle]

Originally posted by: GeneralGrievous

He was obviously not aiming simply for ARod's elbow, but just ARod in general. And believe me, if your a major league pitcher you should be able to hit a person if you really want to.

Complete BS. If that was intentional, so was the Contreras one today.

You say Varitek didn't have time to think, and yet he had time to exchange words with ARod, walk him down first, and get in his face.

All of which happened in the course of a whopping 3-4 seconds. He didn't plan on fighitng arod either, it took less than a second for him to punch Arod after the "come on" talk.

Money proves nothing.

Keep telling yourself that. It may not guarantee victory but it is certainly an advantage.

Finally, the Yankees abusing the MLB with higher salaries is a JOKE.

It is, from the MLB's point of view. How they can allow such degradation of their sport is beyond me. The yankees are one of the reasons baseball is on a decline compared to football and basketball.

First off they have a slew of home grown players: Derek Jeter, Jorge Posada, Bernie Williams, Mariano Rivera.

How many players are on a baseball team? How many prospects have the yankees dumped in the past few years?

Again, some of your comments are pointless and are unproven with facts. Give me numbers and truths, not opinions w/o backing. I never defended Contreras's HBP and I will stick by my assessment that Arroyo was AIMING for ARod.

The Varitek incident happened for atleast a minute, from the HBP, to the escorting, to the getting in the face. He didn't have time to take off his mask, but he had time to walk down the basepath?

And you keep saying that money is a reason for them winning. Prove it. I give you hard facts, you give me nothing. Money is certainly an advantage and I can not believe that your telling me that Boston is not in the SAME position. Yea they spend less, but they still spend more than almost all teams in the MLB, don't use the money argument.

Baseball is on a decline?!?!? wow, you are surely misinformed. One of the leading decling sports is NBA basketball. You DO realize that there is a larger following for the much better College ball games right? You are telling me that after the strike of 94'(year?), baseball has not been the most improved sport?

Yankees dump prospects to get players. Are you telling me that Boston doesn't trade prospects? How about this Terry Adams trade? Come, all teams do it. I'm just saying that 50 million is allocated to its own home grown players, so please understand we don't go out and spend on everyone else. See in NY we are respectful to our players and try to pay them what they want, not chase them out of the city (i.e. Nomar)

 

[Gurck]

Originally posted by: GeneralGrievous
And the yankees will get their ass handed to them at some point in the playoffs, george steinbrenner will throw a hissy fit, and they'll shell out $250 million next year. So really, why bother being a Yankee fan?

Should the '90s Bulls have given up Jordan? the Cowboys Aikman? The Yanks are doing what they can within the given ruleset to do as good as they can. Why blame them? And last I checked Boston has the second highest salary - odd that I hear nobody complaining about 130 mill being spent on a team BARELY ABOVE 500! I'll be the first one to agree with a salary cap - but blaming the result of the lack of said cap instead of the lack of said cap makes people look like jealous children. Sad that there are so many who do this And as I said in the other post, I don't think it'll happen because the Yankees are what baseball needs to compete. The reason they need to compete is because society for the most part has ADD/ADHD, which is in turn in large part due to TV putting the absolute worst sh*t they could possibly, conceivably come up with on prime time. Fear Factor? How about Paint Drying? It would be equally as bad & boring, but at least have some educational value (chemical properties of paint). Baseball is "2 borng" and "2 slo 4" most people to watch - which is why it's losing ratings to football & basketball, which in turn is why it needs to do all it can to compete. Why blame the Yankees for a society whose IQ is plummeting?

 

[Gurck]

Originally posted by: RedPickle

Originally posted by: Gurck
oh boy a new thread to get involved with... yes, the red sox are winning this game... yes, they'll still be 7.5 games back. Yes, even on the off-chance that both a) the sox win every single game remaining in this season and b) the yankees lose every single game remaining in this season, the Babe would find a way to keep them from entering and/or winning the series So really, why bother being happy if you're a sux fan?

HI GURCK!!!

 

[Led Zeppelin]

Originally posted by: GeneralGrievous
Please do. There are other teams in the league besides the red sox and yankees, many of which fulfill the above criteria. I think the word you are looking for is frontrunner.

Even if the yankees beat the red sox in a playoff series, they'll get smacked around by the cardinals, a team with real hitting talent and not washed up trash.

Or the Dodgers, who will end up with Randy Johnson, if RJ decides to give up his no-trade clause.

 

[RedPickle]

Originally posted by: GeneralGrievous
Please do. There are other teams in the league besides the red sox and yankees, many of which fulfill the above criteria. I think the word you are looking for is frontrunner.

Even if the yankees beat the red sox in a playoff series, they'll get smacked around by the cardinals, a team with real hitting talent and not washed up trash.

"real hitting talent"

ARod? Sheffield? Matsui? Jeter? You DO realize that the Yankees started the same number of infielders as St. Louis in the All-star game correct?

 

[RedPickle]

Originally posted by: BostonRedSox

Originally posted by: GeneralGrievous
Please do. There are other teams in the league besides the red sox and yankees, many of which fulfill the above criteria. I think the word you are looking for is frontrunner.

Even if the yankees beat the red sox in a playoff series, they'll get smacked around by the cardinals, a team with real hitting talent and not washed up trash.

Or the Dodgers, who will end up with Randy Johnson, if RJ decides to give up his no-trade clause.

LoL, do I detect a "I hope that happens" tone?

 

[Led Zeppelin]

Originally posted by: RedPickle

Originally posted by: BostonRedSox

Originally posted by: GeneralGrievous
Please do. There are other teams in the league besides the red sox and yankees, many of which fulfill the above criteria. I think the word you are looking for is frontrunner.

Even if the yankees beat the red sox in a playoff series, they'll get smacked around by the cardinals, a team with real hitting talent and not washed up trash.

Or the Dodgers, who will end up with Randy Johnson, if RJ decides to give up his no-trade clause.

LoL, do I detect a "I hope that happens" tone?

No, you detect a "RJ is staying in the National League, where he really wants to play with a contender" tone.

 

[GeneralGrievous]

Money is certainly an advantage and I can not believe that your telling me that Boston is not in the SAME position. Yea they spend less, but they still spend more than almost all teams in the MLB, don't use the money argument.

And? I don't like the Red Sox much either. They are certainly guilty of the same crime, just to a lesser degree.

See in NY we are respectful to our players and try to pay them what they want, not chase them out of the city (i.e. Nomar)

Aaron boone was chased out quickly, especially given his heroics last year.

I'm just saying that 50 million is allocated to its own home grown players, so please understand we don't go out and spend on everyone else

Which leaves around $130 million on outside players. Which I believe is the Red Sox entire payroll, and they are 2nd or 3rd in that category.

Any Yankee fan cannot argue payroll when compared to the red sox, they have a 40% advantage.

The Varitek incident happened for atleast a minute, from the HBP, to the escorting, to the getting in the face. He didn't have time to take off his mask, but he had time to walk down the basepath?

I timed it. 10 seconds. Out of which varitek was in front of Arod for 2.

real hitting talent"

Arod? Looks like he left half of his talent in Texas. A lucky MVP choice given his team was in last place and his performance compared to half a dozen NL hitters.

Sheffield? Left his talent behind as well.

Matsui? Garbage, unworthy all star, especially as an outfielder. Above average player, but that's the end of it.

Jeter? Good, for a shortstop anyway. His hitting capability is uncomparable to at least 20 other players in the MLB.

You DO realize that the Yankees started the same number of infielders as St. Louis in the All-star game correct?

Neither Arod nor Giambi deserved the start. Hank Blalock and David Ortiz have played better this year.

 

[RedPickle]

Originally posted by: BostonRedSox

Originally posted by: RedPickle

Originally posted by: BostonRedSox

Originally posted by: GeneralGrievous
Please do. There are other teams in the league besides the red sox and yankees, many of which fulfill the above criteria. I think the word you are looking for is frontrunner.

Even if the yankees beat the red sox in a playoff series, they'll get smacked around by the cardinals, a team with real hitting talent and not washed up trash.

Or the Dodgers, who will end up with Randy Johnson, if RJ decides to give up his no-trade clause.

LoL, do I detect a "I hope that happens" tone?

No, you detect a "RJ is staying in the National League, where he really wants to play with a contender" tone.

Yup, another "I hope that happens" tone. Just because RJ said no to Boston, doesn't mean you have to cry about it...

 

[GeneralGrievous]

Should the '90s Bulls have given up Jordan? the Cowboys Aikman? The Yanks are doing what they can within the given ruleset to do as good as they can. Why blame them? And last I checked Boston has the second highest salary - odd that I hear nobody complaining about 130 mill being spent on a team BARELY ABOVE 500! I'll be the first one to agree with a salary cap - but blaming the result of the lack of said cap instead of the lack of said cap makes people look like jealous children. Sad that there are so many who do this And as I said in the other post, I don't think it'll happen because the Yankees are what baseball needs to compete. The reason they need to compete is because society for the most part has ADD/ADHD, which is in turn in large part due to TV putting the absolute worst sh*t they could possibly, conceivably come up with on prime time. Fear Factor? How about Paint Drying? It would be equally as bad & boring, but at least have some educational value (chemical properties of paint). Baseball is "2 borng" and "2 slo 4" most people to watch - which is why it's losing ratings to football & basketball, which in turn is why it needs to do all it can to compete. Why blame the Yankees for a society whose IQ is plummeting?

:beer:

Best post of the thread. I agree with everything you said. I don't mind the spending in itself, but it's when these morons say its not an advantage or it doesnt that I get irritated. Because it is.

If only the phillies had this sort of cash.

 

[Led Zeppelin]

Originally posted by: RedPickle

Originally posted by: BostonRedSox

Originally posted by: RedPickle

Originally posted by: BostonRedSox

Originally posted by: GeneralGrievous
Please do. There are other teams in the league besides the red sox and yankees, many of which fulfill the above criteria. I think the word you are looking for is frontrunner.

Even if the yankees beat the red sox in a playoff series, they'll get smacked around by the cardinals, a team with real hitting talent and not washed up trash.

Or the Dodgers, who will end up with Randy Johnson, if RJ decides to give up his no-trade clause.

LoL, do I detect a "I hope that happens" tone?

No, you detect a "RJ is staying in the National League, where he really wants to play with a contender" tone.

Yup, another "I hope that happens" tone. Just because RJ said no to Boston, doesn't mean you have to cry about it...

RJ hasn't said no to anybody yet. If anything, Garargiola Jr is saying no to the Yankees. Steinbrenner pissed him off when he was screwed by Steinbrenner over David Wells. There won't be any favors done by JGJR to help out Steinbrenner any time soon.

 

[Gurck]

Originally posted by: GeneralGrievous
Arod? Looks like he left half of his talent in Texas.

Sheffield? Likewise, except with Atlanta.

Matsui? Garbage, unworthy all star, especially as an outfielder.

Jeter? Good, for a shortstop anyway.

You're kidding....? Actually this isn't at all uncommon from people who hate the Yankees out of jealosy, but not enough to actually watch the games. Rodriguez has had a so-so year hitting... at 3b, OTOH (which as you all know isn't his natural position) he's having a gold glove year. Sheffield? Can you seriously say he's having a bad year hitting (which is what he's known for)? If the answer is yes, I can only shake my head in disgust and suggest you a) watch more games and b) look next time they show his '04 batting average. Matsui is a consistent 300 hitter. Who do you have that can say that? Ramirez is about the only one. And despite not being just a 300+ hitter, but a MID-300s HITTER - one of the best in baseball - the Sux can't get rid of him. Real nice guy, that one. Real nice guy... And it shows in the easy time the Sux are having trading him And you honestly are blind enough to say Jeter isn't one of the best players in all of baseball? Words fail at this...