Red vs. blue states, looks like the blue states really ARE nuts

[Steeplerot]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

OK let me rephrase my earlier statement, the Jello Biafra before he sold out would have puked. People like you are nothing more than Rebels without a clue, a bunch of wannabes reveling in the accomplishments of those who proceeded you.[/quote]

And you base this off of what?
The chip on your shoulder or did you just reach into that grab bag of your ass?
You have no clue about me and it's pretty sad that IF you are cool as you make yourself out to be you would know Jello has not sold out and still tours endlessly.
DK sold out. Not Jello but then being stuck on the east coast I guess you don't see him around.


I don't know what crawled up your ass when you went east but you should chill.
Know your enemys before you make them. -Your holier then thou I am more punk rock then you BS you are spouting is exactly what Jello bitches about the most nowdays. You prove his point exellent I shall tell him about this next time I run into him. RD

 

[Steeplerot]

There are still loads of transports coming in the bay daily, I don't think he has a clue what he is talking about.
Go watch your own port.....

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: Steeplerot

I don't know what crawled up your ass when you went east but you should chill.
Know your enemys before you make them.

You're not my enemy, just some guy who likes to portray himself as some enlightened counter culture Guru who has the ability to see things others can't, albeit erroneously.

 

[Steeplerot]

Then point them out but attacking me on the basis you are so much more punk or whatever then me is plain stupid.
You want to compare old vinyl or something? WTF?
I have for years been in music etc. if the fact that I am "counter-culture" offends you or makes you jealous in some way don't take it out on me.
I am being myself and keeping it real and not tearing down others. Like Jello says last thing we need is backbiting punk-rock drama, this isn't gillman st.

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: Steeplerot
There are still loads of transports coming in the bay daily, I don't think he has a clue what he is talking about.
Go watch your own port.....

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: Steeplerot

I don't know what crawled up your ass when you went east but you should chill.
Know your enemys before you make them.

You're not my enemy, just some guy who likes to portray himself as some enlightened counter culture Guru who has the ability to see things others can't, albeit erroneously.

Forget it Steeple. When people are Brainwashed they see things completely different.

Sort of like those Beer commercials where the guys can't taste their Beer and a woman comes along and changes out the Beer for one that supposedly has more taste, well the Hannity/Rush/Bush Regime has gotten into their heads and changed the Beer.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: Steeplerot
There are still loads of transports coming in the bay daily, I don't think he has a clue what he is talking about.
Go watch your own port.....

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: Steeplerot

I don't know what crawled up your ass when you went east but you should chill.
Know your enemys before you make them.

You're not my enemy, just some guy who likes to portray himself as some enlightened counter culture Guru who has the ability to see things others can't, albeit erroneously.

Forget it Steeple. When people are Brainwashed they see things completely different.

Sort of like those Beer commercials where the guys can't taste their Beer and a woman comes along and changes out the Beer for one that supposedly has more taste, well the Hannity/Rush/Bush Regime has gotten into their heads and changed the Beer.

Could be worse, could be like you who let the Larry, Moe and Curly regime take over your thoughts.

 

[Steeplerot]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: Steeplerot
There are still loads of transports coming in the bay daily, I don't think he has a clue what he is talking about.
Go watch your own port.....

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: Steeplerot

I don't know what crawled up your ass when you went east but you should chill.
Know your enemys before you make them.

You're not my enemy, just some guy who likes to portray himself as some enlightened counter culture Guru who has the ability to see things others can't, albeit erroneously.

Forget it Steeple. When people are Brainwashed they see things completely different.

Sort of like those Beer commercials where the guys can't taste their Beer and a woman comes along and changes out the Beer for one that supposedly has more taste, well the Hannity/Rush/Bush Regime has gotten into their heads and changed the Beer.

People here make me want to bash my head against the wall sometimes. But I do not mind. Red Dawn is doing his thing as I am doing mine. He can hate on me all he wants but I think it's a mistake to write me off when he has no clue about me personally, oh well c'est la ve.

 

[Tommunist]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: Steeplerot

I don't know what crawled up your ass when you went east but you should chill.
Know your enemys before you make them.

You're not my enemy, just some guy who likes to portray himself as some enlightened counter culture Guru who has the ability to see things others can't, albeit erroneously.

Holy sh!te guys - wtf are you arguing about? I'm going to just start calling you both EMOs since they are way cooler than punk wussies (hopefully you pick up some sarcasm on that last statement)

 

[Steeplerot]

heh don't get me started on the emo kids,like I said I was trying to steer off that subject of who is a poser or not :roll:

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: Steeplerot
Then point them out but attacking me on the basis you are so much more punk or whatever then me is plain stupid.
You want to compare old vinyl or something? WTF?
I have for years been in music etc. if the fact that I am "counter-culture" offends you or makes you jealous in some way don't take it out on me.
I am being myself and keeping it real and not tearing down others. Like Jello says last thing we need is backbiting punk-rock drama, this isn't gillman st.

LOL, I don't think I ever claimed to be Punk only that Punk is BS compared to what it use to be.

 

[Steeplerot]

Well if you are under an assumption that I am some young green day kid you are dead wrong.
flash back to 86 and you'd find a young misfits-DK-crass fan skating his ass off.
So your barking up the wrong tree there.

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Forget it Steeple. When people are Brainwashed they see things completely different.

Sort of like those Beer commercials where the guys can't taste their Beer and a woman comes along and changes out the Beer for one that supposedly has more taste, well the Hannity/Rush/Bush Regime has gotten into their heads and changed the Beer.

Could be worse, could be like you who let the Larry, Moe and Curly regime take over your thoughts. [/quote]

I'll take woo woo woo over Brainwashing and Blatant Lying anyday thank you very much.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Forget it Steeple. When people are Brainwashed they see things completely different.

Sort of like those Beer commercials where the guys can't taste their Beer and a woman comes along and changes out the Beer for one that supposedly has more taste, well the Hannity/Rush/Bush Regime has gotten into their heads and changed the Beer.

Could be worse, could be like you who let the Larry, Moe and Curly regime take over your thoughts.

I'll take woo woo woo over Brainwashing and Blatant Lying anyday thank you very much.
[/quote]
I guess you don't read what you post on a daily basis then.

 

[LordMagnusKain]

Originally posted by: Steeplerot

Originally posted by: LordMagnusKain
Look people: faith in God and making Jesus lord of your life is good for you psychologically. If you've got faith then you don't need psychologists to help you exercise your personal demons.

To fairly judge the number of ?nuts? you should add each pastor/priest as a psychologist as well.

Do the psychologists count that help the victims of the priest/pastors?

when you take a sub-sect of people and decide "they are inferior, I?m above them" you risk losing your self-analysis and becoming just like them. Your unabashed bigotry against people of faith is no different than unabashed bigotry against people of color.

But those who live outside of the world should expect those of the world, like yourself, to persecute at every turn.

Originally posted by: dgevert

Originally posted by: LordMagnusKain
Look people: faith in God and making Jesus lord of your life is good for you psychologically. If you've got faith then you don't need psychologists to help you exercise your personal demons.

To fairly judge the number of ?nuts? you should add each pastor/priest as a psychologist as well.

Are you even capable of making a post without trying to push your religion on everyone? Ridiculous.

The facts of the situation at hand are trying to push my religion on everyone? Explain, please.

Like I said, if it works for you, that's fine. But it's not a miracle cure for whatever ails you...some of us would rather avoid it.

actually, it quite literally is a miracle cure for whatever spiritually ails you.

I understand we?ve got things that we do that we feel deep down are wrong and as such we don't feel worthy of holding faith in the Lord, but that's exactly why Christ came, so that we don't have to be worthy to accept free salvation.

 

[Steeplerot]

You ever think of begging people for money on tv LMK?

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Hey CW, from Missouri?

I spent two weeks in Sikeston one day

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Originally posted by: LordMagnusKain
Look people: faith in God and making Jesus lord of your life is good for you psychologically. If you've got faith then you don't need psychologists to help you exercise your personal demons.

To fairly judge the number of ?nuts? you should add each pastor/priest as a psychologist as well.

Well a lot have flamed you.

SURPRISE!

I'm not. I don't do religious bickering, because I think both sides can get carried away and stupid.

That said, I don't think religion has much to do with this because if so, the teen pregnancy rates would be lower, not higher. Seems that more teenage pregnancies are indicative of a problem as well.

I just don't see God saying "I'll make you whole of mind, but your kids are going to get knocked up"

I think Glenn1's statistic may be accurate, but interpreting it's true meaning and significance could take up a life's work and maybe more.

 

[aidanjm]

Originally posted by: WinstonSmith
I think Glenn1's statistic may be accurate, but interpreting it's true meaning and significance could take up a life's work and maybe more.

Has anyone brought up the statistic that divorces are considerably higher in the red states than blue states? The state with the lowest divorce rate in US is Massachucetts. Explain that.

 

[Darkhawk28]

Originally posted by: aidanjm

Originally posted by: WinstonSmith
I think Glenn1's statistic may be accurate, but interpreting it's true meaning and significance could take up a life's work and maybe more.

Has anyone brought up the statistic that divorces are considerably higher in the red states than blue states? The state with the lowest divorce rate in US is Massachucetts. Explain that.

Or that the suicide rate is lower in the blue states. Hmmm... maybe all those psychologists are helpful...

 

[LordMagnusKain]

That said, I don't think religion has much to do with this because if so, the teen pregnancy rates would be lower, not higher. Seems that more teenage pregnancies are indicative of a problem as well.

I just don't see God saying "I'll make you whole of mind, but your kids are going to get knocked up"

Has anyone brought up the statistic that divorces are considerably higher in the red states than blue states? The state with the lowest divorce rate in US is Massachucetts. Explain that.

i submit that it's an individual spiritual situation. The individuals that have spiritual problems that would send them to a psychologist often end up sending them to church when one is available.

The teen pregnancy rate is a great example of how the people in the red-states arn't "better" people, just more willing to go to a church than a psychologist.

same thing with divorce. People don't go to church and submit there lives to God because they?re getting a chance to have sex with there girlfriend, or getting a chance to cheat on there spouse. They go to church and repent when the personal and spiritual effects of those actions come home to roost.

If anything the hither teen pregnancy and divorce rates are a good indication of why those in states with fewer per capita psychologists end up going to church.

now, i don't believe that psychologists are useless, but in much the same way a worshipful life can't be replaced with a weekly psychologist visit.

 

[ciba]

Originally posted by: Martin
Choose your favourite:

1. Blue staters are richer, and thus can afford more luxuries than red staters
2. red staters live in the middle of nowhere, and no smart, educated person, like a psychologist, would go there.
3. Red staters are actually more crazy, they just can't afford shrinks because they're poor dumb yokels.
4. Red staters deal with it through guns and physical abuse.

Oh yes, when duty calls I too can spin

How about one of mine?
1. While not as wealthy, red staters don't waste their money on overpriced real estate that will slide down a hill.
2. Blue staters are more urban. No sane persone would live in Los Angeles.
3. Urban centers attract more of the chronically ill.

I really think there are a combination of factors. I think #3 is true to an extent. I see a hell of a lot more people (per capita) talking to themselves on street corners in seattle than in spokane.

Just like anything, there is usually more than one way to solve a problem. Urban people hire professionals, rural folks work with family and friends. Neither is wrong, just a different method.

As far as the OP... Don't be a dink.

 

[imported_Condor]

Originally posted by: Steeplerot
Yeah we have suburb, we call it "Oakland" or just the "east bay". Red staters would call it a state capitol. (Or 3 red states altogether lol)
Wouldn't it suck if we gave the red staters their actual electoral votes... The east bay by itself would trump the whole middle of america I bet! And they call us marginalized hehe

How about if we Red staters gave you the actual food you raise? I'll bet that after about six months of that, you would give us all the electorial votes we would want. By then we wouldn't want any.

 

[imported_Condor]

Originally posted by: CycloWizard

Originally posted by: Steeplerot
Yeah we have suburb, we call it "Oakland" or just the "east bay". Red staters would call it a state capitol. (Or 3 red states altogether lol)

I've been to California. I wasn't impressed.

I've been there too. My daughter tried to get me to retire to CA. Good place to visit, but who would want to live there? I really liked my camping trip to Big Sur. Met some really strange Californians in the camp ground.

 

[conjur]

Originally posted by: Condor

Originally posted by: CycloWizard

Originally posted by: Steeplerot
Yeah we have suburb, we call it "Oakland" or just the "east bay". Red staters would call it a state capitol. (Or 3 red states altogether lol)

I've been to California. I wasn't impressed.

I've been there too. My daughter tried to get me to retire to CA. Good place to visit, but who would want to live there? I really liked my camping trip to Big Sur. Met some really strange Californians in the camp ground.

Need to head to San Diego or up to Monterey/Santa Cruz.

 

[TastesLikeChicken]

Originally posted by: Condor

Originally posted by: Steeplerot
Yeah we have suburb, we call it "Oakland" or just the "east bay". Red staters would call it a state capitol. (Or 3 red states altogether lol)
Wouldn't it suck if we gave the red staters their actual electoral votes... The east bay by itself would trump the whole middle of america I bet! And they call us marginalized hehe

How about if we Red staters gave you the actual food you raise? I'll bet that after about six months of that, you would give us all the electorial votes we would want. By then we wouldn't want any.

Let 'em raise their own kronic. The number of psychologists required in blue states and urban areas would double instantly.