Red states are effed

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MrSquished

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Kentucky governor Andy Beshear highlights the damages in Trump's big ugly Bill. There are other commentators in it also, it's a long read.

  • Closes 35 rural hospitals (more than [in] any [other] state)
  • Endangers health care for 1.5 MILLION Kentuckians
  • Cuts food assistance for 575,000 Kentuckians (including 225,000 children)
  • Gives billionaires massive tax breaks while Kentucky’s working families suffer
Why do these dumb Democratic milquetoast politicians call this bill 'mean'? WTF is wrong with these Dems. They are so pathetic.

Andy, mean is being rude to a water.

This bill is disgusting, obscene, evil and the Republicans are also words of this nature.

Get a fucking clue.
 

kage69

Lifer
Jul 17, 2003
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House just passed it, that bill of cruelty and shame is off to the manchild for his nonsensical signature.

Sad day for America. I don't see how anyone can celebrate tomorrow. Fascism has completed it's infection of our government, the Constitution doesn't mean anything to the majority sworn to uphold it.

How many retired boomers will now no longer be able to live alone I wonder. Team Treason just made it so my sister in law has to have her crazy Trump loving mother come live with her now. She voted for Dementia Don, both times, has the nerve to act victimized. At least she'll get something for her house before a hurricane and the GQP take that from her too.
 
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[DHT]Osiris

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70%... Wait... WHAAAT???
This is even worse than expecting, the ICE is clearly attacking even the nationals then?

What Trump wants? famine to make his move and depends on Russia? Is he insane?
I mean, if you were a legal worker, even citizen, that looked like the people being sent to concentration camps, would you trust that you'd be treated fairly?
 
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Jaskalas

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People voting against their material interest should get what they voted for long and hard.
I wish that were enough. I wish Democracy and civil discourse could win the day and sway people into making choices that would benefit themselves (and everyone else too).
I find that the majority are incapable of such independent thought and will simply abdicate their will and their vote to whoever propagandizes them the most.
And the suffering they will inflict upon themselves, through bad government policy, is just more fuel for the propaganda that propels their Nazi movement.

While I share the sentiment of "Fuck them, got theirs"....
It ALSO adds fuel to the Nazi fire that threatens us all.

War is coming. We must do everything to claim the hearts and minds of the people, of all our people, before it comes time to do that other thing.
Anyone we do not sway, we will be in combat with ere long.
 
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gothuevos

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I don't want to touch the stove, and I don't want other people to touch the stove, but if that's what it takes to get them to see sense, so be it.

They're so busy being riled up about imaginary culture war issues that they don't notice how Republicans are robbing them blind. Someone on Bluesky conveyed a story of a deep red Nebraska district that shot itself in the foot: assemblyman (R) was going to support a wind project in the district, gets primaried by a Koch-backed person and loses. New assemblyman (R), who's big on oil, in a district that doesn't have any oil jobs, then helps to block the project. They just do it to themselves.
But we have 40+ years of stove touching that shows it doesn't matter, so why would this time matter?

In the end, Democrats or dog/cat eaters will get the blame.
 

dainthomas

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Dec 7, 2004
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Doesn't seem like supporting illegal entry is a good policy for reducing the flow.

I'm curious, given the fairly low (for now) unemployment rate and the apparent lack of people to fill jobs going undone by immigrants, why we'd actually want to reduce the flow of people?

People will always go where there's work. If there's not work (as in during covid), far fewer people choose to come (other than asylum seekers, etc). Or maybe he's actually playing 4D chess and intentionally torpedoing the economy to accomplish just that.
 
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But we have 40+ years of stove touching that shows it doesn't matter, so why would this time matter?

In the end, Democrats or dog/cat eaters will get the blame.
We have not had 40 years of stove touching. Up until recently, policy was relatively stable for most people.

And Democrats only get the blame if people are morons and subscribe to Murc's Law. The voters are finally getting what they voted for. They should be thrilled that their preferred policies, enacted through the people they voted for, will finally be enacted.
 
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Jaskalas

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Speaking of touching hot shoves, many Republicans were shocked at Jan 6th.
Mere weeks later, their propaganda channels helped normalize violently rejecting elections and their attempt to capture and hang VP Pence.

There is no stove. Only our campaign VS theirs. The pain they inflict upon the American people, their propaganda will blame us. Sure, that may chip away at the margins... and we may be allowed an election or two. Should we gain power though, it cannot be another Biden. Normality and stability are not enough. MAGA has rocked the boat. We must rock the boat too. Our campaign must change things through any means necessary.

And frankly, the idea that we even could... is pure optimism. I do not expect to be given the opportunity, nor for Democrats to seize upon it even if they could.
Red States ARE effed, but so are all of us as the MAGA Nazi movement gains momentum through the misery chaos and despair they spread throughout the land.
History tells us, Nazis do not make for peaceful neighbors.
 

Indus

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May 11, 2002
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Which is part of the problem I guess. Democrats have largely insulated Republican voters from the consequences of their own choices. Horse is out of the barn now though.

I want Dems that will never fix it..

They voted for all the shit.. like we know you can't argue with pcgecko.. he is stupid as fuck. So let him have to deal with 80 hour work weeks, no medicare, no medicaid, no social security and laugh at the trumpanzee.

So don't help him.. let him rot!

Never forget you can take a dumbass to wisdom but you can't make him wise..

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DZero

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Considering that Health Care needs the expertise of the rural areas is matter of time that the urban ones gets hit and the situtation will end worse than the LATAM ones. Oh the irony, even private ones will get hit too.
 

trenchfoot

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The business/political/religious cartel in Kentucky has got that state locked up good and tight. They've been ripping off their indentured white peasants from way back in the day when they managed to get the carpetbaggers to either leave their state or join Kentucky's slave owners boy's club for fun and profit.

Can't imagine how the working class folks in that state could ever manage to usurp the Old Boy network that's been running things down there like forever.

Although I really do hope I'm proven wrong.
 
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