Originally posted by: alchemize
Originally posted by: Harvey
Originally posted by: alchemize
Originally posted by: Harvey
Do you feel better knowing the disastrous results of the actual election gave us an administration thatYou can piss and moan all you want about the movie. All the rest of us have to complain about are the horrors that actually happened on your Traitor In Chief's watch. :shocked:
- Slept through credible warnings that Bin Laden was determined to attack the U.S.
- Started a war in Iraq based entirely on LIES that, as of 9/23/08, has squandered the lives of 4,170 American troops and wounded, scarred and disabled tens of thousands more American troops.
- Committed acts of torture, war crimes and other gross violations of human rights.
- Failed to provide even minimally competent relief to New Orleans and the southeastern U.S. following hurricane Katrina.
- Presided over the collapse of the financial system they willingly deregulated.
Yer doin' a heck of a job, Bushie! :thumbsdown: :|
Pavlov's dog!
Try refuting the truth of what I said instead of trying to distract from it with your pathetic, petty name calling, and I'll show you the respect of replying to address what you say.
If you can't do that, you're always welcome to :lips: my (_!_)
Drool puppy drool!
Originally posted by: alchemize
This thread is about BDS, not refuting points
Originally posted by: alchemize
This thread is about BDS, not refuting points
Bush Denial Syndrome? Agreed. Note that that the Republican faithful, a/k/a BDS'ers, make no attempt whatsoever to refute any of the information presented in Recount. Instead, they just plop out their usual empty, condescending sneers, their blind devotion to the party unencumbered by inconvenient data or questions that might challenge their bubble world. It is more clinically called cognitive dissonance, a debilitating psychological condition that afflicts too many Americans.Originally posted by: alchemize
This thread is about BDS, not refuting points
Well, the thread basically started off as a kind of funny/kind of true troll, the usual suspects jumped in and started with the "we're smart you're dumb" stuff, got derailed by a world class BDS'er, dogpiled by other BDS'ers telling me that I'm the other kind of BDS'er, what dialogue shall we engage in?
Should we start with Bush ignoring Bin Laden warnings in 2001 or the 2000 elections - gosh I can't decide what I want to chat about more!
Do you have anything to contribute regarding Recount? Can you refute any of the examples it presents or concerns it raises? Do you care about the integrity of American elections? Will you be equally glib if it's suddenly your side that's on the losing side of widespread election irregularities?
Originally posted by: alchemize
Well, the thread basically started off as a kind of funny/kind of true troll, the usual suspects jumped in and started with the "we're smart your dumb" stuff, got derailed by a world class BDS'er, dogpiled by other BDS'ers telling me that I'm the other kind of BDS'er, what dialogue shall we engage in?
You might have missed my edit, but I'll answer your question once you answer mine
Damn - didn't get my your/you're edit in fast enough :laugh:Originally posted by: Don Vito Corleone
Originally posted by: alchemize
Well, the thread basically started off as a kind of funny/kind of true troll, the usual suspects jumped in and started with the "we're smart your dumb" stuff, got derailed by a world class BDS'er, dogpiled by other BDS'ers telling me that I'm the other kind of BDS'er, what dialogue shall we engage in?
All I know for sure is I'm smart and you're dumb!
Sorry, you've apparently mistaken me for one of the partisans who thinks [Republicans | Democrats] can do no right and [Democrats | Republicans] can do no wrong. The recent Democratic-controlled Congress is only slightly better than the previous Republican-controlled Congress, in part because they don't have the super-majority necessary to override the Obstructionist in Chief, and in part because they're a bunch of special-interest-whoring professional D.C. politicians. There is no well-funded special interest group lobbying for better election integrity.Originally posted by: alchemize
You might have missed my edit, but I'll answer your question once you answer mine
"By the way, I'm curious, now that the democrat congress is in power for quite some time now and can cure all our problems, what legislation did they introduce that the republicans blocked to reform elections?"
I really didn't want to go there, but since you answered...Originally posted by: Bowfinger
Sorry, you've apparently mistaken me for one of the partisans who thinks [Republicans | Democrats] can do no right and [Democrats | Republicans] can do no wrong. The recent Democratic-controlled Congress is only slightly better than the previous Republican-controlled Congress, in part because they don't have the super-majority necessary to override the Obstructionist in Chief, and in part because they're a bunch of special-interest-whoring professional D.C. politicians. There is no well-funded special interest group lobbying for better election integrity.Originally posted by: alchemize
You might have missed my edit, but I'll answer your question once you answer mine
"By the way, I'm curious, now that the democrat congress is in power for quite some time now and can cure all our problems, what legislation did they introduce that the republicans blocked to reform elections?"
That said, I believe there has been progress in improving election integrity in many states, initiated at the state level. I'm not aware of anything material done by Congress.
I've now answered your question, misdirected as it was. What say you to mine?
I think there's a lot more out there than you realize. Black Box Voting has done quite a lot, for example, though it doesn't get much media coverage because they don't have the irrefutable proof necessary to get the MSM to stick their necks out. Recount does a good job of bringing much of it together and documenting it well. As I said earlier, you won't find it conclusive since it is one-sided, but it might actually put you in the same boat I'm in, concerned enough to want to know more and to want tighter controls to prevent potential abuses in the future, regardless of what did or did not happen in 2000 and 2004.
I've actually said something similar with respect to the 2000 tally in Florida: that if it was truly that close, the ultimate winner essentially became a coin toss depending on the voters' mood on election day. Recount makes the case, however, that American elections are regularly close enough lately that even a lead of several points can be overcome through carefully targeted manipulation of a relatively small number of areas.
Originally posted by: Harvey
Do you feel better knowing the disastrous results of the actual election gave us an administration thatYou can piss and moan all you want about the movie. All the rest of us have to complain about are the horrors that actually happened on your Traitor In Chief's watch. :shocked:
- Slept through credible warnings that Bin Laden was determined to attack the U.S.
- Started a war in Iraq based entirely on LIES that, as of 9/23/08, has squandered the lives of 4,170 American troops and wounded, scarred and disabled tens of thousands more American troops.
- Committed acts of torture, war crimes and other gross violations of human rights.
- Failed to provide even minimally competent relief to New Orleans and the southeastern U.S. following hurricane Katrina.
- Presided over the collapse of the financial system they willingly deregulated.
Yer doin' a heck of a job, Bushie! :thumbsdown: :|
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