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Originally posted by: DonVito
Originally posted by: brxndxn

Read the last three paragraphs I wrote and you'll maybe see that I've already covered you. I'm not being condescending, though since we won and you lost, I can see how you would look at it that way if you ignore what I wrote.

In case you need it in easier words, because you obviously don't understand what I'm trying to say, the Democrats will NEED to be viable to Americans in general sometime soon or we'll have continued Republican dominance - which is not good for America either.
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Ahem - I don't need it in "easier words." I have a doctorate. With all due respect, your advice is neither solicited nor helpful to the Democratic party at large. If you felt it was important to post it, you could just as easily have done it in any one of the innumerable other threads on this topic.
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Okay, you do not need 'easier words.' But, I still think you ignored the last three paragraphs of the original thread. I don't give a sh!t whether or not my advice was solicited. I'm posting in forums on the Internet; not at a senior Democratic leader meeting. And, you, who I'm going to label as a self-appointed liberal intellectual, Mr. Doctorate, do not speak for the Democratic Party as much as I don't. Put your doctorate to use and give this Republican some goddamn evidence as to why I should vote Democrat! That is the original intention of this thread. If your doctorate is not in English, then I forgive your poor reading comprehension.

If you take offense to this reply, go ahead. You already took offense to my original post which was meant to foster discourse, not prompt hasty emotional one-liner replies.

Seriously, I'm hurting for any real reasons why anyone should vote Democrat. Give me some.
 
Why can't everyone PLEASE stop with the religious Bigot BS! Not everyone who voted for Bush, believes in God, thinks abortion is disgusting (chopped for space) is as you say a bigot!

I know the press is saying this election was won on morals but I do not believe that. The election was won on far more points than abortion. And yes if you are saying a religious bigot only voted for Bush because of this abortion stance you are wrong.

I'm babbling now - MORE COFFEE!

Please stop calling everyone a religious bigot it just shows how little you have become.
 
f the US had a majority of 'religious zealots', Clinton never would have won his second term.
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If you look at the differences between the Democrat presidents of the last 30 years and their counterparts who failed to get elected, what difference do you see? Carter and Clinton were men of faith who understood how to interact with the religious. Clinton won his two terms because he knew how to appeal to the strongly religious voters.

If Democrats wish to win, what they really need to do is run a candidate like Carter or Clinton who is:

1. A governor, not a legislator. Legislators have too much baggage: their job is compromise and they continually vote on huge omnibus bills with thousands of provisions, any one of which can be taken out of context to attack them.

2. A man who can honestly speak the moral, religious language of the south. He doesn't have to agree with everything the religious right wants, but there are more religious moderates than radicals and he needs to understand and speak their language.
 


There are a lot of independents and Republicans that would gladly vote for a moderate Democrat over George W Bush. But, unlike the militant liberals, they do not hate Bush.
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You are wrong there. I have not met a single independent who does not hate Bush. Some of the Republicans don't (I can't comprehend this), but I've yet to see any independents not hate him. The Republicans claim to hate Kerry more than Bush though (Most of the Republicans I've met hate Bush as well). Some enlightenment on the reasons that they hate Kerry more would be good.

In fact, I'm an independent who not only doesn't hate bush, likes him and voted for him.
 


quoted by conjur




------------Your intentions are well-meaning but your summary of Kerry is 100% wrong. Stop listening to the rhetoric of the right.

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i think he was 100% right on his discription of the kerry that the left made him out to be. though he is very liberal, the real kerry is a lot better man than this. and the left did the same thing to gore in
2000. kick out the michael moores and the hollywood airheads out of the demo party and one day you will
win again.
the right didnot make up this description of kerry. the libs did........and lost again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!




 
I didn't read anything in this thread but the original post because I'm assuming its all more partisan hackery, but have a :beer:. You're the kind of Republican I'd be happy to work with for the future of this country. However, let me tell you one of the greatest reasons I dislike President Bush - he acts nothing like you. He has no tolerance for dissenting opinions or compromise. You either agree completely with him, or you're wrong. This is why those who oppose the President don't like working with today's Republican Party - because it would involve going along with them completely, not a sharing of ideas. In short, I believe President Bush is directly responsible for the "extremism" of many liberals today.
 
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