Don't call the President of the United States an idiot. Bush, while horrible with speeches, is not an idiot. He managed to get re-elected twice - and not everyone that voted for him is an idiot. If your argument for voting for Kerry is that 'Bush is an idiot', you will only just offend those that voted for him while convincing us of nothing.
Don't call Republicans and everyone else that voted for Bush idiots. We don't believe we're idiots - and you are not going to convince us that we are idiots. Don't generalize us into 'religious zealots' or 'rich white people'. Generalizing is for the bigots - and bigots don't belong in the Democratic party. Also, take into consideration that 'religious zealots' pushing religious agendas does NOT represent most Republicans. If the US had a majority of 'religious zealots', Clinton never would have won his second term.
Don't take generalized groups for granted. I went to a Bush rally and there were people of every race, religion, and I even saw a man holding a sign with 'Homosexuals for Bush!' written on it. Granted, most black people voted for Kerry. But, don't belittle them by treating them as one big block of votes. Kerry got nowhere near the percentage of black votes that Gore had in 2000.
Don't say that the President of the United States is a liar who started a war so that Dick Cheney can make some more money. That, while maybe convincing if one could actually believe it, would be impossible to make us believe. That argument is ignorant of the intelligence agencies of multiple countries - and even the UN opinion of Iraq. It is ignorant of the strong reputation of honesty and integrity of George W Bush.
Don't let the militant liberals dominate the Democratic party. There are a lot of independents and Republicans that would gladly vote for a moderate Democrat over George W Bush. But, unlike the militant liberals, they do not hate Bush. When the Democratic party lets itself be dominated by those normally fitting in the Green Party (notice, Nader got much fewer votes this time), the party alienates long-time members. When you see a militant homosexual, the very few that try to influence others by offending them, saying that everyone that is against gay marriage deserves to die and is a worthless human being, let the Republicans know that person does NOT represent most Democrats. When you see a militant filmmaker calling his films 'documentaries' and saying that Bush organized 9/11 so that Dick Cheney would make money with no regard for American lives, don't pretend to support him. Arguments like those only gain support for those against them.
Don't argue that the rest of the world would vote for your candidate. No Sh!t. Kerry wanted to give the UN power over the US, or at least moreso than Bush. No wonder they would rather Kerry gain power. The rest of the world seems to have more problems than in the US, why should the rest of the world try to tell us how to govern ourselves?
Pick a candidate who is more representative of the American people - one who doesn't try to represent the entire world. Pick a candidate who doesn't relish in the past, but DETAILS plans for the future. Pick a candidate who doesn't shower us in guilt, but fills us with optimism. Pick a candidate with a spine - one who is honest, doesn't change positions, one who doesn't try to make us feel guilty for voting originally for the incumbent. I read a speech by Kerry made while on the campaign. The entire speech was negative up until the end where he said, "God Bless America." Well, I'm not exactly religious, though I try to respect those that are, and I understand what he means. As far as I'm concerned, that was the only sign of optimism in his entire speech. I just could not feel the way he wanted me to feel.
In other words, DO NOT PICK HILARY. She cannot win in the US. There are way too many people that feel bitter towards her - both Republican and Democrat. She will lose by a margin worse than Dukakis. She is NOT representative of the American people. She is left of Bill Clinton and her statements as first lady showed that.
To sum this up, don't try to convince a Republican to vote for your candidate by totally offending him or her. Stick to being optimistic and set more realistic goals. Socialized medicine could never happen in a Democratic presidential term while Republicans dominate Congress, Kerry should never have even mentioned it. And, don't act like all smart people are in your party. Attitudes like that stifle conversation and close us off to any good arguments that you may have. Give us reasons TO vote for your candidate while laying low on the reasons NOT to vote for ours.
In case I've offended anyone, please let me know how. This is not intended to correct the reasonable Democrats; rather to tell the reasonable Democrats to help give the 'militant liberals' a better perspective.
I am a somewhat conservative Republican. But, I care much more about the long-term stability of the US than who the current President is. It scares me when I see no hope for the Democratic party in the near future. The constant struggle between the Democrats and Republicans is what keeps the US so stable. And, a stable US in the long run is better for the economy and for the world than ANY short-term decision.
Please let me know what you think of this, rather you are conservative or liberal. My intentions are to genuinely give advice as I definitely do not want to see the US turn into a one-party system. If you merely want to offend me, please don't do so in this thread. Instead, send me a PM with the worse insult you can think of and I will read it and reply. I am really not trying to sound like a self-proclaimed conservative intellectual as I really get frustrated by self-proclaimed liberal intellectuals. I'm sorry if I came off that way. I'll spellz some werdz wrnong 4 that.
CLIFF NOTES:
- If you don't want to read my whole post, please just either insult me for being a conservative or support me in a civilized manner without ruining the discussion.
Don't call Republicans and everyone else that voted for Bush idiots. We don't believe we're idiots - and you are not going to convince us that we are idiots. Don't generalize us into 'religious zealots' or 'rich white people'. Generalizing is for the bigots - and bigots don't belong in the Democratic party. Also, take into consideration that 'religious zealots' pushing religious agendas does NOT represent most Republicans. If the US had a majority of 'religious zealots', Clinton never would have won his second term.
Don't take generalized groups for granted. I went to a Bush rally and there were people of every race, religion, and I even saw a man holding a sign with 'Homosexuals for Bush!' written on it. Granted, most black people voted for Kerry. But, don't belittle them by treating them as one big block of votes. Kerry got nowhere near the percentage of black votes that Gore had in 2000.
Don't say that the President of the United States is a liar who started a war so that Dick Cheney can make some more money. That, while maybe convincing if one could actually believe it, would be impossible to make us believe. That argument is ignorant of the intelligence agencies of multiple countries - and even the UN opinion of Iraq. It is ignorant of the strong reputation of honesty and integrity of George W Bush.
Don't let the militant liberals dominate the Democratic party. There are a lot of independents and Republicans that would gladly vote for a moderate Democrat over George W Bush. But, unlike the militant liberals, they do not hate Bush. When the Democratic party lets itself be dominated by those normally fitting in the Green Party (notice, Nader got much fewer votes this time), the party alienates long-time members. When you see a militant homosexual, the very few that try to influence others by offending them, saying that everyone that is against gay marriage deserves to die and is a worthless human being, let the Republicans know that person does NOT represent most Democrats. When you see a militant filmmaker calling his films 'documentaries' and saying that Bush organized 9/11 so that Dick Cheney would make money with no regard for American lives, don't pretend to support him. Arguments like those only gain support for those against them.
Don't argue that the rest of the world would vote for your candidate. No Sh!t. Kerry wanted to give the UN power over the US, or at least moreso than Bush. No wonder they would rather Kerry gain power. The rest of the world seems to have more problems than in the US, why should the rest of the world try to tell us how to govern ourselves?
Pick a candidate who is more representative of the American people - one who doesn't try to represent the entire world. Pick a candidate who doesn't relish in the past, but DETAILS plans for the future. Pick a candidate who doesn't shower us in guilt, but fills us with optimism. Pick a candidate with a spine - one who is honest, doesn't change positions, one who doesn't try to make us feel guilty for voting originally for the incumbent. I read a speech by Kerry made while on the campaign. The entire speech was negative up until the end where he said, "God Bless America." Well, I'm not exactly religious, though I try to respect those that are, and I understand what he means. As far as I'm concerned, that was the only sign of optimism in his entire speech. I just could not feel the way he wanted me to feel.
In other words, DO NOT PICK HILARY. She cannot win in the US. There are way too many people that feel bitter towards her - both Republican and Democrat. She will lose by a margin worse than Dukakis. She is NOT representative of the American people. She is left of Bill Clinton and her statements as first lady showed that.
To sum this up, don't try to convince a Republican to vote for your candidate by totally offending him or her. Stick to being optimistic and set more realistic goals. Socialized medicine could never happen in a Democratic presidential term while Republicans dominate Congress, Kerry should never have even mentioned it. And, don't act like all smart people are in your party. Attitudes like that stifle conversation and close us off to any good arguments that you may have. Give us reasons TO vote for your candidate while laying low on the reasons NOT to vote for ours.
In case I've offended anyone, please let me know how. This is not intended to correct the reasonable Democrats; rather to tell the reasonable Democrats to help give the 'militant liberals' a better perspective.
I am a somewhat conservative Republican. But, I care much more about the long-term stability of the US than who the current President is. It scares me when I see no hope for the Democratic party in the near future. The constant struggle between the Democrats and Republicans is what keeps the US so stable. And, a stable US in the long run is better for the economy and for the world than ANY short-term decision.
Please let me know what you think of this, rather you are conservative or liberal. My intentions are to genuinely give advice as I definitely do not want to see the US turn into a one-party system. If you merely want to offend me, please don't do so in this thread. Instead, send me a PM with the worse insult you can think of and I will read it and reply. I am really not trying to sound like a self-proclaimed conservative intellectual as I really get frustrated by self-proclaimed liberal intellectuals. I'm sorry if I came off that way. I'll spellz some werdz wrnong 4 that.
CLIFF NOTES:
- If you don't want to read my whole post, please just either insult me for being a conservative or support me in a civilized manner without ruining the discussion.
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