I picked up an LG 246WP and its great. I got mine at best buy for $400 because they were no longer going to carry it and wanted to get rid of it.
I have a TN Panel now the newer Gateway 24" couldn't pass up the deal 335 for it, hdmi in component in 1080p support what not. It's great for gaming, glossy, high color. I used the eztune thing to "calibrate" it it's not as good as if I did it "professionally" but looks a LOT better than it did when I hooked it up. I've watched some movies at 1080p on it and they look REALLY good the viewing angles are kinda screwy, but they're not that bad at all tbh. Pretty good monitor I'd say but I got it at a steal.
When it comes to gaming you want something with the best response time therefore a TN panel is the most logical choice. Unless you're a computer graphics artist, then TN is the best way to go. I'd recommend you go to your local store that sells computer hardwares and check for yourself.
I think Jax Omen hit it right on, it really depends how you are sensible to these kind of things. Some don't notice the ghosting, some do. Just as some ppl get dizzy playing FPS but not flight simulator and vice versa....
++ to going to store to check them out, its your best bet if you are indecisive.
++ to going to store to check them out, its your best bet if you are indecisive.
Jax Omen
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Yeah, I'm really thankful that I'm one of the ones who isn't sensitive to ghosting and refresh rate.
DEFINITELY go to a store, check out the different monitors. Do the vertical viewing angle test to find the TN/Non-TN panels, and see how they look to you. If you can't see a difference in colors, then get a good TN panel for gaming. If you can, you should avoid TNs like the plague. If you see ghosting/lag on the MVA/IPS panels, get a TN.
End of discussion.
DEFINITELY go to a store, check out the different monitors. Do the vertical viewing angle test to find the TN/Non-TN panels, and see how they look to you. If you can't see a difference in colors, then get a good TN panel for gaming. If you can, you should avoid TNs like the plague. If you see ghosting/lag on the MVA/IPS panels, get a TN.
End of discussion.
I can tell ghosting on older screens not so much newer ones, and I can tell the viewing angles on really low quality TNs, but the one I have now is pretty good and viewing angle doesn't really bother me.
postmortemIA
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Wrong. MVA/PVA/IPS panels *are* better. Better color reproduction and better viewing angles.
Not all non-TN panels have "lag" that would be noticed in gaming. Thats hogwash. I own a Soyo 24" and play @ 1920x1200 and there is NO lag to speak of. And just so you know, I owned a 22" TN panel from LG before this and I notice no lag difference at all.
IMO, as long as your budget allows, I would always buy a non-TN panel. TN panels are cheaper and they provide good performance for the money, which is what I would suggest for someone on a budget.
Non-TN panels are fine for most casual gamers. However, they are not fine for people like myself who play lots of fps games online. Even if you don't notice any lag, it is definately there and every millesecond counts in those games. Especially if you play competitively.
If you're playing CS in a league and it comes down to you and another guy, and he is running a TN with an average of 2ms response time and you have a ips panel with an average of 50ms response time...who do you think is going to win?
I'm sure I'm not the only one out there that doesn't want do have any disadvantages when playing online fps games.
I'm sure I'm not the only one out there that doesn't want do have any disadvantages when playing online fps games.
Dadofamunky
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And the prices for TN panels are getting lower all the time. There are some amazing deals out there, prices have really dropped. That's a big advangtage in their favor. Nothing wrong with being price-sensitive...
Uhh for your information I played DoD:S in CAL Main and we won the championship. I think I know what I'm talking about. We aren't talking 2ms to 50ms here. Thats way overstated. Mostly we are looking at 2-5ms (TN) vs 6-8ms (MVA).
I didn't even know DoD source was played in CAL. That's news to me!
http://www.digitalversus.com/d...04&p1=2943&ma2=88&ph=9
that's my monitor compared to the Dell 2408WFP.
let me see here...
Dell E2408WFP = average of 69ms
BenQ G2400W = average of 2ms
you are ok with that much lag?
http://www.digitalversus.com/d...04&p1=2943&ma2=88&ph=9
that's my monitor compared to the Dell 2408WFP.
let me see here...
Dell E2408WFP = average of 69ms
BenQ G2400W = average of 2ms
you are ok with that much lag?
maybe I don't know enough about the whole response time thing. but according to that website the rated response time is nowhere near the actual one?
also, maybe there is a reason xtknight only has 2 non tn panels in his top gaming lcd monitors list?
also, maybe there is a reason xtknight only has 2 non tn panels in his top gaming lcd monitors list?
That's input lag, not response time. There's models of every panel type with minimal input lag; the best TN monitor, your G2400W has virtually none, the LG 246WP (VA) has <1 frame of lag, and the Doublesight/Planar 25.5" displays both have <1 frame of lag.
There are also models with bad to horrid input lag and the culprit is usually an assertive scaler chip, which is actually regarded as a picture-enhancing feature, and not one that you'd find on the low-end sector TNs occupy. Hence the lower lag profile of TN panels as a whole.
There are also models with bad to horrid input lag and the culprit is usually an assertive scaler chip, which is actually regarded as a picture-enhancing feature, and not one that you'd find on the low-end sector TNs occupy. Hence the lower lag profile of TN panels as a whole.
Please don't read out of context ok? I'm talking about cost here and the word better is in quotes. MVA is more expensive not because its better, its because most of the fab plants and build to make TN panels. Since most display makers did not switch to MVA entirely, the cost of MVA has been reducing at a slower rate than anticipated. While the demand for larger, cheaper LCD display has gone up, the most logical choice is to continue TN technology even when VA was taunted to replace TN when it was first introduce.
Some ppl are more sensitive, just because you play games and don't notice any difference doesn't mean others are the same.
not all VA/TN displays are created equal. Go down to local store or friend's, check the display out, see what you like and think about what you will be doing and your budget then make your decisions.
Tough time to be in the market for a PC LCD screen..
I would wait a bit until the screens catch up with what is avail over in the TV LCD market.
-120hz refresh rate
-post processing
-10bit panel
I saw a 22" screen with these specs released recently, but that is the first screen I have seen with the newer tech in them
I would wait a bit until the screens catch up with what is avail over in the TV LCD market.
-120hz refresh rate
-post processing
-10bit panel
I saw a 22" screen with these specs released recently, but that is the first screen I have seen with the newer tech in them
Throckmorton
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You only need 120hz refresh rate for 24hz media so it doesn't have to do all that pulldown stuff. Video cards can't put out 30 bit color can they?
Puffnstuff
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Ditto on the lg l246wp-bn, I've had mine a couple of months and absolutely love it. I have no problems gaming on it and I do play crysis, time shift, cs:s and other fast paced games with no issues.
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