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reccomend cutlery: my cheap knives are teh suck

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xSauronx

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seriously, i have a knife set i got cheap never planning to use it for like 30 bucks somewhere when i got married....

ive been cooking alot lately...and these cheapo knives suck. i dont want to spend a ton of cash on some knives, but i need some decent ones. steak knives arent needed, as what i have will do fine for that. but i need a chef knife/paring knife/bread knife at least

what are the cooks here using, and what should i expect to spend on some decent cutlery?
 
I've heard/seen good things about these dumb Miracle Blade knives. They are cheap, but the set I used at a friend's house is sharper than hell! Don't know how long that lasts, though.
 
mean to ask about those, they are cheap....though likely better than the crap i have, anyone else have them? they worth a damn?
 
You get what you pay for when it comes to knives...you're finding that out the hard way. Why even bother with the Miracle blade crap?
 
you just missed the big Amazon deal on Henckels Five Star 9-Piece for $199 (originally $349.99) but your in luck with the Sabatier Grand Chef 10-Piece Knife Set in Wood Block

Cutlery is a lot like home theatre. You can buy individual knives and assemble your own kitchen theatre. If so start off with a 8-inch chef's knife. Then get a cleaver. Expect to pay. The cheaper sets on Amazon are just that. Cheap.
 
Originally posted by: xSauronx
seriously, i have a knife set i got cheap never planning to use it for like 30 bucks somewhere when i got married....

ive been cooking alot lately...and these cheapo knives suck. i dont want to spend a ton of cash on some knives, but i need some decent ones. steak knives arent needed, as what i have will do fine for that. but i need a chef knife/paring knife/bread knife at least

what are the cooks here using, and what should i expect to spend on some decent cutlery?
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My friend who is a culinary student always likes to say that if they aren't cheap, they aren't worth the metal. A good set of knives can literally outlast you, if you take care of them.
 
yeah i know cheap ones arent going to last, thing was...when i bought them i basically only ate our and had frozen foods, so i need non crappy ones now

i saw a cutco presentation with my mother a while back, nice stuff and it had crossed my mind

that sabatier set looks nice, may go for that, anyone else?
 
Try some of these. Most insane knives I've ever seen. My friend has a couple: A white-bladed paring knife, and a 6.5" black-bladed one.

Edit: Changed link to the Kyocera page.
 
Originally posted by: Ikonomi
Try some of these. Most insane knives I've ever seen. My friend has a couple: A white-bladed paring knife, and a 6.5" black-bladed one.

Edit: Changed link to the Kyocera page.
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If you're willing to pay anything, that's the way to go. They will never (or only once) require sharpening.
 
Anoter vote for miracle blade, I ordered a set for my mom and friends for xmas. I live far away from them so haven't used them but they told me it works really well.
 
Here ya go! Knife set

The least expensive Henckels knife set that is any good. They had a $40 dollar set but all the knives were serated and serated knives suck. At least this one has a sharpening bar.
 
If you're gonna get something, just get something good.

Get a set of Henckles or something. I think that's the name. I heard those knifes are good. Not the single guy holding a Fork or a knife, but the one that has two holding something.
 
Originally posted by: Graphicd00d
Here ya go! Knife set

The least expensive Henckels knife set that is any good. They had a $40 dollar set but all the knives were serated and serated knives suck. At least this one has a sharpening bar.
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Check the reviews, this set is the one produced in China and is the lower end. Check with cooking.com to see if they have any deals.

 
I would recommend Henkles. You want to look for a forged, high-carbon stainless blade. If you are willing to spend the money, look in to the KAI Shun line, which is a division of Kershaw knives. They are made in Japan, and are quite impressive. Start with a couple of knives, and build your collection over time.

Ryan
 
I've got Cutco (company is based a few blocks from where I live).

I'd have to say they're a little over-rated for the price, but good quality nonetheless. I'd be surprised, however, to be unable to find better quality knives for less.
 
I got the sabatier set mentioned above from amazon (amazon is a great place for knife set deals).

I paid $149 for the 10 piece Grand Chef Sabatier set (the price drops sometimes to that)

It had a $30 GC included

It had a $30 roasting pan included (really like $15 if you hunted for it, but it's a $30 retail item and was nice and heavy)

Free shears (not like the ones pictured or on the box....but nice...made in china)

Free Mesalune (good pizza cutter 🙂, made in china though)

Since I needed the pan, my net was about $90 on it, no tax, no shipping.

These knifes are the top of the line. Other than the Provence which add real wood handles, there is nothing better from France 🙂

They compare directly to the top henckels and wustoff from Germany.

Now with any of these three you have to beware of the lower end versions often these are worst that a WalMart special...you are paying only for the name at that point and getting cheap stamped metal pieces, loose in the handles.

I don't know about all these people recommending ceramic and special blades (also most Japanese blades sold in America for big bucks can be bought very very cheap in Japan)...I can see if you have major disposable income but dropping $100+ per knife that may require special care is not a smart purchase to me.

All the top of line blades also have lifetime warranties. If one breaks you can get a replacement....at least it's easy with my sabatier set.

 
Originally posted by: MaxDepth
Originally posted by: Graphicd00d
Here ya go! Knife set

The least expensive Henckels knife set that is any good. They had a $40 dollar set but all the knives were serated and serated knives suck. At least this one has a sharpening bar.
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Check the reviews, this set is the one produced in China and is the lower end. Check with cooking.com to see if they have any deals.
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Yes they are on the lower end but he didn't want to spend money to get a great set. I personally would get this and this if I wanted great quality knives.
 
Originally posted by: Graphicd00d

Yes they are on the lower end but he didn't want to spend money to get a great set. I personally would get this and this if I wanted great quality knives.
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for $50-100 ($149-199) cheaper the Sabatier Grand Chef set 10 piece (6 knives) compares equally to the Henckels or Wustoff (both $249) above. Sabatier is not so popular in the US like it is elsewhere, I looked into all three of these sets and the Sabatier without a doubt is equal as far as quality of the blades go....I have no need or want for anything but traditional handles.

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im thinking the sabatier heavily, i had looked at wusthof, amazon is advertising a coupon code to save $29 on kitchen wares except henckles, allclad and emerilware, so the sabatier looks even better now

edit: nm on the ceramics, checked some prices, im not THAT much into cooking right now 🙂
 
Originally posted by: glen
http://www.altonbrown.com/pages/kershaw.html
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Not saying they are good or bad, however they are 'copies' of standard Japanese cooking knifes...no Santoku (which for many in the US is unneeded anyway, unless they are doing Japanese type cooking). I think people like it because it looks like a Tanto. If shopping on looks alone, choose the Tanto at least you can use it for something else outside the kitchen.

Kai USA as mentioned above sells 'less pretty' knifes like this. They look nothing great but are good knifes.

In Japan the Santoku is called a 'Hocho' because one of the better makers is Tosagata Hocho of Japan. These knives are only in the double digit price range, usually below $50 each. Keep in mind though knifes are tools for the job and you may as well call 'American' style food a phillips head screw and 'Japanese' style food a slotted because using the other's tools is about just as effective.

Also unlike German and French knives the Japanese knifes are not as rugged....the Japanese people are 'fixers' they use and when worn throw away. Japanese knives are razor sharp and usually have a 'pattern' on the blade to help with thin slicing (another thing not really done in american cooking)...

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