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Recall Republican Wisconsin Governor Walker status update thread

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Agfadoc said:
The Democratic Party of Wisconsin has stated they will no longer be giving updated totals on the signature count. They have also lowered their expectations from 1 million signatures to 600,000 to 700,000 signatures. I can't guarantee it but it sure sounds like they are worried. Perhaps the wind has been taken out of their sails. Time to increase the pressure to make sure the petitions are being signed legally. It is also time to volunteer to help in the verifying process. If they can only get 600,000 I guarantee you at least 100,000 will be illegal signatures.

http://verifytherecall.com/
https://www.facebook.com/VerifyTheRecall
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oh really??? How come the Democratic party of Wisconsin doesn't have that same news officially listed on their website?

I wasn't aware that the sweat off Walker's ballbags would be able to post...color me impressed. 😀
 
Ausm said:
Where?
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From my earlier post:
Ausm said:
Umm if you read them HE was the one who said the deficit was fixed the other link I posted debunked what HE said...your mind must get blown pretty easy. 😉

Why are you arguing about a subject that A you didn't even read my posts and B has nothing to do with you?
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Um, no. From your Politifact link:
During the summer of 2011, the Republican-controlled state Legislature gave swift approval to the $66 billion 2011-’13 state budget, which was signed into law by Gov. Scott Walker.

That budget closed a $3.6 billion shortfall from the previous fiscal year, and also, for the first time in many years, closed the state’s structural deficit. In fact, as we noted in an earlier item, Walker’s budget is projected to leave a structural surplus at the end of the two years.

That’s why we were puzzled by a two-page fund-raising appeal that his campaign mailed to supporters Sept. 2, 2011.

"Wisconsin state government is $3 billion in debt, spending is too high, our business climate isn’t what it should be and Badger State voters gave me a mandate to turn our great state around," Walker said in the two-page letter.
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Notice how when it is Walker's words, they are in quotes. This is Politifact, NOT Walker, stating that "That budget closed a $3.6 billion shortfall from the previous fiscal year, and also, for the first time in many years, closed the state’s structural deficit."

From the same Politifact article:
But repeating the statement now flies in the face of the many positive statements Walker made after the budget passed.

Significantly, the state budget by law must be balanced, so the $3.6 billion shortfall had to be resolved. And the nonpartisan Legislative Fiscal Bureau -- accepted by both sides as the neutral scorekeeper on such matters -- says the structural deficit is gone for the first time since it started using the calculation to measure the long-term impact of future obligations the state faces.
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From the earlier Politifact article "disproving" Walker's claim of a $3.6 billion shortfall:
The $137 million deficit in the budget year ending June 30 represents about 0.456 percent of the $30 billion state budget, or less than half of 1 percent. The projected $3.6 billion deficit for the next two-year budget is more serious: about 12 percent of the overall budget.
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Note that none of these are in quotes; Politifact is good about quoting when they use another's words, even though they are fanatical at finding some angle by which the right's claims can be deemed as false even while verifying the central point. In this case, they admitted the state had a $3.6 billion shortfall while rating Walker a liar because the state wasn't really "broke" by any common definition.
 
werepossum said:
From my earlier post:

Um, no. From your Politifact link:

Notice how when it is Walker's words, they are in quotes. This is Politifact, NOT Walker, stating that "That budget closed a $3.6 billion shortfall from the previous fiscal year, and also, for the first time in many years, closed the state’s structural deficit."

From the same Politifact article:


From the earlier Politifact article "disproving" Walker's claim of a $3.6 billion shortfall:

Note that none of these are in quotes; Politifact is good about quoting when they use another's words, even though they are fanatical at finding some angle by which the right's claims can be deemed as false even while verifying the central point. In this case, they admitted the state had a $3.6 billion shortfall while rating Walker a liar because the state wasn't really "broke" by any common definition.
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Oh now look at each one of the posts dates by politifact...
 
Ausm said:
Oh now look at each one of the posts dates by politifact...
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So the earlier article agreed there was a $3.6 billion shortfall, and the later article agreed there was a $3.6 billion shortfall, but if I look at the dates it will become clear there was no $3.6 billion shortfall? Are the dates magic numbers? Are you Louis Farrakhan?

Are you sure you aren't doubling up on your meds?
 
Agfadoc said:
http://biggovernment.com/eagtv/2011...-dared-to-support-wisconsin-gov-scott-walker/

Union Radicals Harass Teacher Who Dared to Support Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker

by Education Action Group

KENOSHA – Apparently there’s no room for free thought or disagreement within the Wisconsin Education Association Council.
We suppose that’s not terribly surprising for a group that has to force its members to join.
Still, it’s troubling to hear that Kristi LaCroix, the courageous public school teacher who had the guts to film a television ad supporting Gov. Scott Walker’s reforms, is being harassed by union zealots to the point where she wants to change careers.
LaCroix, who teaches at Lakeview Technology Academy in the Kenosha school district, recently posted the following on her Facebook page, according a news story from WISN 1130:

“Going through and deleting my daily amount of hate mail that is sent to my work email. I have now been assured, by one of the emails (all of which I forward to my Principal) that there is an online movement called ‘Fire Kristi‘ where they are going to email, post and talk to everyone (telling) millions of stories to ruin my reputation, career and life.
“Kind of hard to keep my head up with stuff like this. I have said for a couple of years that I really need to leave teaching. I think that it is time for me to move on.”
Here’s a sample of an email that’s been sent to LaCroix:
“On Facebook there are lots of people willing to join the Fire Kristi movement. You are alone in a wilderness. Your financial help from the likes of the Koch brothers will dry up once your liabilities outweigh your assets, which will be very soon. Your best bet is to start a job search soon. Enjoy your isolation.”

Teachers unions and bullying
Now wait just a minute. We could have sworn we recently read something about teachers unions in various states working to curb school bullying.
Apparently they don’t practice what they preach.
Some moron who runs the website “Free Wisconsin” (myplayfulself.com) describes LaCroix and other teachers who have the courage to speak out as “a minuscule minority of teachers (mostly female and blond).” Are all male WEAC supporters (or members) this openly sexist?
He also identified the member of the Waukesha school board (Karen Rajnicek) who appeared in another Walker ad, and published her address and phone number, obviously to encourage prank calls and harassment.
The disgusting people attacking LaCroix and Rajnicek are probably the same folks who threatened business owners who refused to put anti-Walker signs in their windows, or who terrorized the Catholic elementary school in Milwaukee where Walker read to children earlier this year.
These are some of the same folks, by the way, who “teach” thousands of Wisconsin children every day.
If Big Labor is known for anything, it’s lowering itself to whatever disgusting level is necessary to get what it wants. In the world of collective bargaining and group think, the end always justified the means, regardless of how nasty the tactics might be.
We find it interesting that union members want to get LaCroix fired, yet scream bloody murder when anyone mentions the possibility of firing incompetent teachers. Union leaders and radical union teachers are all about self-preservation. They are not about quality education or the best interests of students.
We believe the people of Wisconsin are starting to figure that out, due largely to outrageous behavior like the constant harassment of a teacher who dares to disagree with the almighty WEAC.
A teacher with the courage to speak out
Teachers like LaCroix do not turn against their unions for the fun of it. They do so after years of watching a very political, power-hungry organization suck the life out of public schools and kill opportunities for students.
LaCroix is one of those teachers who just wants to teach, without the constant distraction of organized labor. Consider the following from her Facebook page:
“I have sat by for my 14 years and have been saddened by the amount of non-learning that is allowed to take place in our school. The unions are destroying public education and it makes me sick that these are the people who represent the teachers who are wonderful, do a good job and are a vital part of childrens’ lives.
“I just don’t fit in the education system. I would like to actively search for a new job where I can still work with kids and not have to work for public education. I just want a classroom, students and to be left alone to teach.”
You’re absolutely right, Ms. LaCroix. You do not fit into a public education system that in many cities has become little more than a financial grab bag for multi-million dollar teachers unions. You do not fit into a system that protects incompetent teachers and fails to reward excellent ones.
But you do sound like a dedicated educator who cares about kids. That means you would probably fit quite nicely into a charter or private school. And perhaps someday, when taxpayers reclaim their schools from the self-serving unions, you can go back and work in public schools that are focused solely on the single issue that should concern them – student learning.
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this is excatly what unions are - Bullys.

And this same union will then sponsor anti-buly messages for schools, and zero tolerance.

How many union leaders are speaking out against this kind of union thuggry? ZERO. Why?

Because unions support bullying.
 
werepossum said:
So the earlier article agreed there was a $3.6 billion shortfall, and the later article agreed there was a $3.6 billion shortfall, but if I look at the dates it will become clear there was no $3.6 billion shortfall? Are the dates magic numbers? Are you Louis Farrakhan?

Are you sure you aren't doubling up on your meds?
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Why the personal attacks?
 
michal1980 said:
this is excatly what unions are - Bullys.

And this same union will then sponsor anti-buly messages for schools, and zero tolerance.

How many union leaders are speaking out against this kind of union thuggry? ZERO. Why?

Because unions support bullying.
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There's a reason that Boeing is building production plants not in WA - and the blame goes to...Unions.

I support abolishing unions, honestly. They made sense 100 years ago. They make none today.
 
Ausm said:
Why the personal attacks?
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When you post one link attacking Walker for lying about there ever being a $3.6 billion shortfall and another link attacking Walker for lying because he's already fixed the $3.6 billion shortfall, and then adamantly refuse to even acknowledge it, I'm left with nothing but sarcasm.
 
Ausm said:
Why the personal attacks?
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Are you talking to yourself, hypocrite? I only had to scroll up a few posts to find your most recent personal attack in this thread alone! You know, the one where you called someone the sweat off of Walker's ballbags?

Ausm said:
oh really??? How come the Democratic party of Wisconsin doesn't have that same news officially listed on their website?

I wasn't aware that the sweat off Walker's ballbags would be able to post...color me impressed. 😀
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Fear No Evil said:
So the most flamingly liberal county in Wisconsin is not optimistic about their business outlook and it Walker's fault? LOL. Maybe they think Walker is going to be recalled and that is bad for their business? :biggrin:
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They used to blame Bush. Now they have a new fall guy.
 
Create a demon so the meek will follow... I guess the meek needs more motivation.


http://www.nbc15.com/news/headlines/Dems_Fear_Recall__135222083.html?storySection=story

Updated: 10:37 PM Dec 7, 2011
Urgent Email from Dems: Without Cash, Recall Could Stall​
An urgent email from the Democratic Party of Wisconsin seeks donations by next week to keep the grassroots campaign going.
Posted: ​
10:28 PM Dec 7, 2011
Reporter: ​
Phil Levin
Email Address: ​
plevin@nbc15.com

An urgent email from the Democratic Party of Wisconsin seeks donations by next week to keep the grassroots campaign going.
On Wednesday, State Chair Mike Tate wrote the group needs $150,000 by December 16 to keep 42 offices running across the state.
"We won't recall Scott Walker. We won't restore workers' rights. And we won't elect new leadership that Wisconsin families can trust," the email says, unless the goal is met.
As of Wednesday night, a graphic indicated the group had raised $56,045 towards the goal.
Last week Tate appeared on national television announcing the gathering of more than 300,000 signatures. At the time they were asking for $10.40 donations to run about 30 offices.
An updated signature count has not been released in more than a week.
The Democratic Party indicates about 20,000 volunteers are working towards a recall but about 100 staffers are needed "through whatever the Wisconsin winter throws our way."
Republicans are skeptical about how many signatures have been collected so far.
"This is a fight that they picked so if they're having to go out and ask for more contributions and suddenly hide how many signatures they actually have, that might tell you something about how it's going," said Brian Schimming from the Republican Party of Wisconsin.
Supporters will need 540,000 signatures by January 17 to force a recall election.
 
Come on Ausm... Give more. Give more to the cause! Put your money where your mouth is. They need more money to collect signatures.. Those cardboard signs and Magic markers are expensive!

Or maybe it's like the money the unions pissed away of their members dues to recall the last time. Hence the main problem of people providing union dues, they don't go the members, they go to the political machine that keep them enabled to the stewards.
 
davmat787 said:
Are you talking to yourself, hypocrite? I only had to scroll up a few posts to find your most recent personal attack in this thread alone! You know, the one where you called someone the sweat off of Walker's ballbags?
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Are you jealous that I haven't raised you to that level too?
 
Agfadoc said:
Create a demon so the meek will follow... I guess the meek needs more motivation.


http://www.nbc15.com/news/headlines/Dems_Fear_Recall__135222083.html?storySection=story

Updated: 10:37 PM Dec 7, 2011
Urgent Email from Dems: Without Cash, Recall Could Stall​
An urgent email from the Democratic Party of Wisconsin seeks donations by next week to keep the grassroots campaign going.
Posted: ​
10:28 PM Dec 7, 2011
Reporter: ​
Phil Levin
Email Address: ​
plevin@nbc15.com

An urgent email from the Democratic Party of Wisconsin seeks donations by next week to keep the grassroots campaign going.
On Wednesday, State Chair Mike Tate wrote the group needs $150,000 by December 16 to keep 42 offices running across the state.
"We won't recall Scott Walker. We won't restore workers' rights. And we won't elect new leadership that Wisconsin families can trust," the email says, unless the goal is met.
As of Wednesday night, a graphic indicated the group had raised $56,045 towards the goal.
Last week Tate appeared on national television announcing the gathering of more than 300,000 signatures. At the time they were asking for $10.40 donations to run about 30 offices.
An updated signature count has not been released in more than a week.
The Democratic Party indicates about 20,000 volunteers are working towards a recall but about 100 staffers are needed "through whatever the Wisconsin winter throws our way."
Republicans are skeptical about how many signatures have been collected so far.
"This is a fight that they picked so if they're having to go out and ask for more contributions and suddenly hide how many signatures they actually have, that might tell you something about how it's going," said Brian Schimming from the Republican Party of Wisconsin.
Supporters will need 540,000 signatures by January 17 to force a recall election.
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Wow you mean a e-mail from the Dems asking for cash contributions puts your panties in a twist? I have news for you they come out ALL the time and guess what your side send them out too.
 
werepossum said:
When you post one link attacking Walker for lying about there ever being a $3.6 billion shortfall and another link attacking Walker for lying because he's already fixed the $3.6 billion shortfall, and then adamantly refuse to even acknowledge it, I'm left with nothing but sarcasm.
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/cookie?
 
RampantAndroid said:
There's a reason that Boeing is building production plants not in WA - and the blame goes to...Unions.

I support abolishing unions, honestly. They made sense 100 years ago. They make none today.
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They make more sense now than ever thanks to the destruction of the country by the CEO's such as your beloved head of Boeing.

Why do you love the Corporations but hate America?

What are you gaining personally. Fess up
 
dmcowen674 said:
They make more sense now than ever thanks to the destruction of the country by the CEO's such as your beloved head of Boeing.

Why do you love the Corporations but hate America?

What are you gaining personally. Fess up
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I bet you've never worked an honest day in your life. What do you even know about corporations? Other than what your subway manager told you..

Sent from my Supercharged Asus Transformer
 
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