Recall Republican Wisconsin Governor Walker status update thread

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Good security means addressing vulnerabilities before they're exploited.

Would you be okay with it if I used your name to have you vote for Trump?
It's not "good security" - it's pointless nonsense. The "vulnerability" you speak of is like a Dr. Evil style plan: overly elaborate and easily foiled. Don't know why you're so keen to waste taxpayer money on such nonexistent problems.
 

Vic

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Right. Then they go to vote and...what? Saying their name is sufficient? We shouldn't authenticate any further?
Is there any other right where you think people should have to prove their right to exercise it each and every time the choose to do so?
 
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Good security means addressing vulnerabilities before they're exploited.

Would you be okay with it if I used your name to have you vote for Trump?
Good security is addressing vulnerabilities that are LIKELY to be exploited primarily due to the return the exploiter would get. There is no payoff to voter impersonation. That’s why you never hear of it happening and when it does it’s almost always chalked up to poll worker mistakes.
 

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mail-in ballots have been exploited more than in-person voting and there is no requirement for ID for those because it's more likely republicans that do mail-in voting. and ballot fraud.
 

Atreus21

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It's not "good security" - it's pointless nonsense. The "vulnerability" you speak of is like a Dr. Evil style plan: overly elaborate and easily foiled. Don't know why you're so keen to waste taxpayer money on such nonexistent problems.

Knowing someone's name doesn't strike me as elaborate.

And how is it easily foiled?
 

Atreus21

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I would because then you’d be arrested and put in jail. I’m cool with that.

Even in thatt unlikely event, it's still a fait accompli. I used your vote to my own ends, and that cannot be undone. Election day has passed.
 

Atreus21

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Good security is addressing vulnerabilities that are LIKELY to be exploited primarily due to the return the exploiter would get. There is no payoff to voter impersonation. That’s why you never hear of it happening and when it does it’s almost always chalked up to poll worker mistakes.

No payoff? Changing a democrat vote to a republican vote by trickery isn't a payoff? You'd take it in stride if I used your name and voted for Trump?
 

Atreus21

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Is there any other right where you think people should have to prove their right to exercise it each and every time the choose to do so?

I don't know. Should we even require registration? Wouldn't you use the same argument against that?

Considering the right to vote is afforded only to citizens, we should make some attempt to ensure only citizens exercise it.
 

Atreus21

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Understand fellas, I'm not saying that everyone needs a freaking passport or even necessarily a photo ID to vote. I think any document which might substantiate their identity, even a cell phone bill, would satisfy my concern.
 
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Knowing someone's name doesn't strike me as elaborate.

And how is it easily foiled?
You're so dense. To give you the benefit of the doubt on whether you're an idiot or just mind numbingly ignorant, I'll spell it out:

1) your plan requires a lot of people to commit in person voter fraud to make a difference
2) all it would take is one person coming in to vote and their name already crossed off to uncover this plot or for someone to recognize that the person is not who they say they are.
 
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Atreus21

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You're so dense. To give you the benefit of the doubt on whether you're an idiot or just mind numbingly ignorant, I'll spell it out:

1) your plan requires a lot of people to commit in person voter fraud to make a difference

I take your vote and vote Trump. No one else's. You're okay with that?
 

UberNeuman

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You're so dense. To give you the benefit of the doubt on whether you're an idiot or just mind numbingly ignorant, I'll spell it out:

1) your plan requires a lot of people to commit in person voter fraud to make a difference
2) all it would take is one person coming in to vote and their name already crossed off to uncover this plot or for someone to recognize that the person is not who they say they are.

Don't interrupt him. He's almost managed to get his head to turn 360 degrees.
 

Atreus21

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Great plan there sport.

You'd risk years in prison to steal one person's vote through an easily-discoverable method? You're dumber than I thought.

Jesus Christ. Just answer the question. I must've asked it four times.

I mean it's not even a gotcha. If you said that the risk of fraudulent votes is less dangerous than the risk of disenfranchising minorities, that's reasonable even though I disagree.
 

ivwshane

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Even in thatt unlikely event, it's still a fait accompli. I used your vote to my own ends, and that cannot be undone. Election day has passed.

Sounds like you have a plan. I suggest you get your friends to help you because you’ll need more than one extra vote to make any difference come this November.
 

JEDIYoda

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Some people are very dense! They are so dense that they do not understand that everyone has a right to vote! It is not the same as having a drivers license! Driving is not a right! Voting is not a priveledge!
All this would do is cause people who have no means of hafving or gettin g an ID to not be able to vote!
There is no substantial voter fraud that would make requiring ID to vote a reasonable expectation!
In fact when was the last time there was substantial voter fraud to sway an election? hint -- Never!
Requiring ID to vote wiill impact minotirties more than it will im pact white angla-saxon americans!
Requiring ID to vote is just another tool that racists use to hold down the people who are already apporessed!
 

Atreus21

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Sounds like you have a plan. I suggest you get your friends to help you because you’ll need more than one extra vote to make any difference come this November.

No, I wouldn't do that. But your approach relies too heavily on the honor system.

I don't think it's a burdensome imposition on anyone to require some documentation of their identity. A debit card, a social security card, anything.
 

JEDIYoda

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Jesus Christ. Just answer the question. I must've asked it four times.

I mean it's not even a gotcha. If you said that the risk of fraudulent votes is less dangerous than the risk of disenfranchising minorities, that's reasonable even though I disagree.
Why answer? It is a bull shit question! Carry on comrade!
 

UberNeuman

Lifer
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And why can't I drive on the sidewalk? It's there. Who is the government to tell me what I can and can't do
 

Vic

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I don't know. Should we even require registration? Wouldn't you use the same argument against that?

Considering the right to vote is afforded only to citizens, we should make some attempt to ensure only citizens exercise it.

I don't know. Considering we already do that through voter registration, your bullshit comes across as a deliberate attempt to prevent citizens from exercising their right to vote.