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Rebel flag ... for or against?

If you're an American your allegiance is to the Stars and Stripes, not some southern relic from slavery. If you want to pledge allegiance to some rebel flag you're in the wrong country.
 
Originally posted by: BBond
If you're an American your allegiance is to the Stars and Stripes, not some southern relic from slavery. If you want to pledge allegiance to some rebel flag you're in the wrong country.
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someone expressing freedom of speech shouldnt be in this country? 😕
 
Originally posted by: nick1985
Originally posted by: BBond
If you're an American your allegiance is to the Stars and Stripes, not some southern relic from slavery. If you want to pledge allegiance to some rebel flag you're in the wrong country.
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someone expressing freedom of speech shouldnt be in this country? 😕
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Anyone expressing allegiance to a flag other than the Stars and Stripes shouldn't call themsevles Americans.

In other words, if they salute some rebel flag trash they aren't Americans.
 
Originally posted by: nick1985
Originally posted by: BBond
If you're an American your allegiance is to the Stars and Stripes, not some southern relic from slavery. If you want to pledge allegiance to some rebel flag you're in the wrong country.
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someone expressing freedom of speech shouldnt be in this country? 😕
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not unless it's via clear channel, disney, time warner, or the other one...(i forget)

 
Originally posted by: BBond
If you're an American your allegiance is to the Stars and Stripes, not some southern relic from slavery. If you want to pledge allegiance to some rebel flag you're in the wrong country.
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my birth certificate says i'm an american, but my allegance is with God. i'll sh!t on the stars and stripes, wipe my ass with the rebel flag and fly them upside down from my davidian-esque complex.... the fbi wouldn't care, would they?
 
An insult to african americans... The government should not show the flag at all, and should not promote it. People can do whatever they want in their own homes, but for the state goverments to wave the flag is an act of treason and should be punished!
 
I think the Confederate flag represents Southern hostility towards the "perceived" North. The bitterness and resentment from the Civil War days is still prevalent in Southern culture and society. They definitely consider themselves to be separate from the rest of the United States which they perceive to be everything they are against.
 
Originally posted by: Sudheer Anne
I think the Confederate flag represents Southern hostility towards the "perceived" North. The bitterness and resentment from the Civil War days is still prevalent in Southern culture and society. They definitely consider themselves to be separate from the rest of the United States which they perceive to be everything they are against.
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Nice generalization there. The South are just as proud, or even more proud, to be American than any another region...
 
I wonder if anyone realizes that the stars and bars flew over slavery longer than the confederate flag did. I'm no fan of the confederate flag mind you. I just find it funny that no one ever points this out.
 
I think who displays the flag makes all the difference. At my school (in California), there are a group of 'Valley Boys'. These guys are your typical, live out in the middle of no where, hunt anything with a pulse, can't spell their own name kind of hicks (maybe I exaggerated a little). Anyways, these guys are born and raised in California, and they are fortunate enough to go to a good public school.

Well, they also happen to be extremely racist, mainly because of where they group up. At our small school of about 800 kids, we have I think 3 African American kids (one of which was recently expelled for bringing a loaded gun to school). They have very little exposure to African Americans, and the little exposure that they do tends to be negative just because of the area (our school, maybe one security camera, a school in the next district which is about 90% African American has about 50 cameras, all over the school).

Now, you can easily see how this is a prime breeding ground for stereotype-drivenl racism. Anyways, getting back to my original point, these 'Valley Boys' drive their pickup trucks to school, with Confederate flag stickers and such. Now, in the given situation, given that these kids have never been to the south, and are rather racist, anyone care to take a guess why they would display the Confederate flag?
 
I live in the south, and they changed the flag, with no vote, mind you, as a knee-jerk reaction to cries of racism. A piss-poor looking flag, too.

If it represents racism to you, then let people fly it--there's a warning for you. If your skin is too dark, or eyes not round, stay away. And otherwise, well, still stay away.

Or just don't worry about it. It won't go away, like ID in science classes, but there's not much you can do, really...

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...ya damn Yankees! 😉
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To me it's just a history of the states whom wouldn't like to be controlled by a single government. And that's all what it rep to me... Not Slavery or Southern Pride.
 
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