Doesn't broadcom/conexant own prism now or something? RAlink is the way to go. Realtek is supposed to be a decent choice, when it comes out.
Doesn't broadcom/conexant own prism now or something? RAlink is the way to go. Realtek is supposed to be a decent choice, when it comes out.
Originally posted by: MartinCracauer
The real reason to put Linux on your Powerbook is to make a statement. It is a committment.
The only better one is to put NetBSD on it
Linux is probably better, since NetBSD doesn't have power management on MacPPC.
It isn't stated as an opinion. No one presents it as an opinion, and no one wants to post anything to back it up. But whatever.
The security patches listed here:
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=61798
seem to be good only for OS X versions since 10.2.8. Which leads me to believe that to stay on a supported version, you must buy upgrades regularly. Am I missing something?
I guess everyone is missing something about your bullshit comment n0cmonkey.
Did you just say that because you were angry? The statement Red and black made was perfectly logical. I believe it's been backed up several times.
Linux = $$ free, but major PITA
Mac = $$ not free, but easy
I think they pretty much sums up everything about running linux on a mac.
Did you just say that because you were angry? The statement Red and black made was perfectly logical. I believe it's been backed up several times.
Linux = $$ free, but major PITA
Mac = $$ not free, but easy
I think they pretty much sums up everything about running linux on a mac.
That doesn't make it better. Linux just takes more time to learn.
And the question is NOT about running linux on apple hardware.
Just Linux on x86 and OSX on Apples hardware.
You are missing something. The later updates are automatically available (for free) through software update. The only time you pay for OS X is for a new version (10.4 is new - and note that the major version for OS X is the .4). 10.3.x updates were all free, as will the 10.4.x updates. Major updates (i.e. new version) for OS X are cheaper than the same thing with Windows, but not forgetting that Linux is free regardless (with most distros).
10.2, 10.3, and 10.4 are more than enough "supported" versions.
10.1 is more than just an update of 10.0, 10.2 is more than just an update of 10.1, 10.3 is more than just an update of 10.2, and 10.4 is more than just an update of 10.3.
No, that's not what he said and it is not backed up. I did not pay for: 10.whatever (after 10.0), 10.1.1, 10.1.2, 10.1.3, 10.1.4, 10.1.5, 10.3.1, 10.3.2, 10.3.3, 10.3.4, 10.3.5, 10.3.6, 10.3.7, 10.3.8, or 10.3.9. Those a bunch of udpates. Those are a bunch of free updates _I_ didn't pay for. I'd list all of the 10.0.?s, but I can't remember them.
You pay for major upgrades, not updates.
My 3500+ winnie with 1GB of ram out performs this G5 dual 2GHz with 1.5GB of ram on EVERY application i use. Off the top of my head: matlab, firefox, office, adobe, and every general OS thing one does (copy files, move files, etc. Unless using command line). This is based on windows v mac OS though, so i hope i dont hijack your thread.
So you've bought Mac OS X four times now, right?
I'm glad we've finally established, in detail, what Apple's policy is.
So let me rephrase my original statement:
"In addition to OS X being expensive, to stay on the latest and greatest you will need to buy each major release. Also, at some point in the future, Apple will stop issuing security updates for your release, and you will have to upgrade."
No, I never used 10.2. I have purchased 3 different releases of OS X. Kind of like people that bought NT4, 2k, and XP.
Just like every other software vendor. :light:
EDIT: And $130 isn't expensive for an OS release.
Linux distributions usually require that you update your system to get the latest and greatest features and support. It may be a bit cheaper than $130, but it's still a requirement.
Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
I have purchased 3 different releases of OS X. Kind of like people that bought NT4, 2k, and XP.
And unlike people who use linux. Note the title of this thread.
Except for e.g. the Debian Project, which does not in fact make you buy each major release.
Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
EDIT: And $130 isn't expensive for an OS release.
Compared to say, Debian or FreeBSD or NetBSD , it is.
You can easily purchase multiple releases of some Linux distros. I frequently purchase copies of my OSes, free or not.
You will still have to upgrade, whether you purchase a cd or not.
You guys seem to forget that you are not required to update to every release of OS X. 10.2 does not stop working when 10.3 comes out. You can install 10.1 right now, fire up Software Update, and get it patched up. Heck, I know people who are still using OS9. And as n0c said, updates are free, upgrades are not.
Personally, the only reason I would use Linux over Mac OS is if I did not have a Mac, and couldn't afford one, or couldn't afford software and had some moral objections to using pirated software. Other than that, most of the open source software will run in OS X with some tweaking, and you can use something like fink to get the functionality of apt. I think most of the software on Linux is incomplete junk (no flames please), and so in a practical sense your options are somewhat limited in what is available to you. Its just like Windows, in that there are millions of apps out there, but you'll only really consider the top 3-5 or so in every category, so that enormous app base is meaningless.
Now I've used Linux/BSD longer than I've used Macs, and the reasoning was cost, and the tinkering. These days cost isn't that big of an issue, but time is, so I prefer the polish. I spend most of my time in bash, but when I check mail or watch a trailer, I liked that it works without any fuss.
Personally, the only reason I would use Linux over Mac OS is if I did not have a Mac, and couldn't afford one, or couldn't afford software and had some moral objections to using pirated software. Other than that, most of the open source software will run in OS X with some tweaking, and you can use something like fink to get the functionality of apt. I think most of the software on Linux is incomplete junk (no flames please), and so in a practical sense your options are somewhat limited in what is available to you. Its just like Windows, in that there are millions of apps out there, but you'll only really consider the top 3-5 or so in every category, so that enormous app base is meaningless.
Now I've used Linux/BSD longer than I've used Macs, and the reasoning was cost, and the tinkering. These days cost isn't that big of an issue, but time is, so I prefer the polish. I spend most of my time in bash, but when I check mail or watch a trailer, I liked that it works without any fuss.
That's what I was looking for..
Considering I got my mac mini for free, is there any reason to run my linux box over the OS X machine?
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