Realistically, how hard is it to kill a dog?

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SlitheryDee

Planning how to best a dog in a fight is one thing, but I have a feeling all my plans would go to shit in the heat of the moment. If the dog was running full tilt and hit me mouth first, he might simply be too fast for me to react, and most large dogs would have little problem leaping up to throat height for their very first strike. Even if he missed and struck me in the chest he would likely knock me on my back. Then it would probably be a simple thing for him thrust his head through my defenses and attack my face or neck. At that point it would all be over with.
 

olds

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Originally posted by: Howard
Originally posted by: silverpig
I've thought about this and it doesn't seem too difficult... See, we have 2 hands, 2 legs, and if need be, a mouth. The dog just has a mouth.

I think the best way to go is to let the dog bite your hand. If you try to pull it out, well, you won't be able to, but you can use your other hand to grab the back of the dog's neck, and then ram your first hand down the dog's throat. They REALLY don't like that.

The other option is to use one hand on the dog's upper jaw, and one hand on the dog's lower jaw, then yank them open until it breaks. They don't like that either.

<--- has never actually hurt a dog, and would never ever do it unless it was in self defense.
Opening the jaw is probably impossible for most people with most breeds.

Ya, the result would likely be you having fewer fingers.
 

olds

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Originally posted by: SlitheryDee
Planning how to best a dog in a fight is one thing, but I have a feeling all my plans would go to shit in the heat of the moment. If the dog was running full tilt and hit me mouth first, he might simply be too fast for me to react, and most large dogs would have little problem leaping up to throat height for their very first strike. Even if he missed and struck me in the chest he would likely knock me on my back. Then it would probably be a simple thing for him thrust his head through my defenses and attack my face or neck. At that point it would all be over with.

Well, if you nailed your shoes to the ground before the attack, you are doing it wrong. A slight side step would throw the dogs trajectory off.
 

Lurknomore

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I'll take an attack from a 200lb dog over a 120lb cougar or leopard any day.

Dog- uses mouth
Cat- uses mouth and claws. 3x more agile than any dog.

Just hit the damn pooch in the nose or eyes and it will sulk away, tail tucked and whimpering.
 

Demo24

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The problem being not so much the actual biting of the dog, but when they shake it after grabbing on. Thats when they can easily toss you around or do more damage. So if you did get bit, then the best bet is to try and get your legs around its neck and squeeze. I'm not sure how hard it would be to break its neck, but thats another option.
 

invidia

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Humans are the one of the weakest species on the face of the Earth. Naturally, we will lose to over half of the mammals out there and don't have a single chance vs them. The only thing that makes us superior are our ability to manufacture guns and WMDs.
 

Iron Woode

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Michael Meyers had no problem killing a german shepard with his bare hands.
 

IEC

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This is why man invented weapons. Because we're weak.
 

zinfamous

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Originally posted by: RESmonkey
Originally posted by: ConstipatedVigilante
Originally posted by: RESmonkey
Originally posted by: Fox5
Originally posted by: RESmonkey
You have to be really feral to be able take down a pitbull or rottweiler. I'm sure there are people out there that can win; humans are heavier, and if trained, can kill just about anything less then their bodyweight.
Sure the dog can bite, but you can, too.

Even a chimpanzee?

Sure, I'm sure there are well-trained men in the world who can do this.
Men from countries who deal with these sorts of animals (Africa) are also capable.

Um, no. A man is not going to be able to kill a chimp in hand-to-hand combat. They can rip your arms off with ease, like Chewbacca. Chimps are faster than we are over short distances, too.

Chimp != gorilla.

Quite right. But chimps can certainly rip a humans arms off. Have you seen a full-grown Chimp?

They're mean motherfuckers, too. Just get him in the water though and you'll be fine.
 

Gooberlx2

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Dogs have a very high pain tolerance, and are much faster and agile than you, and stronger with many breeds. While scaring/beating a dog away is more likely to happen...I'd think killing a determined dog would be entirely unlikely with just your bare hands. You'd have to be quick, skillful and knowledgable enough to know exactly where to strike in that frenzy of fur, muscle and teeth. Having a stick (lets say baseball bat) would help tremendously because you can deliver broad and hard blows to the animal. Still, killing it would tough without hitting the head directly.

There is a reason that most criminals will stop in their tracks and obey orders when the K9s are about to be released.
 

Gooberlx2

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Originally posted by: Lurknomore
I'll take an attack from a 200lb dog over a 120lb cougar or leopard any day.

Dog- uses mouth
Cat- uses mouth and claws. 3x more agile than any dog.

Just hit the damn pooch in the nose or eyes and it will sulk away, tail tucked and whimpering.

Big cats don't really use their claws to pummel...only to grip and manipulate to get in a position to bite the esophagus or the spinal cord. But yeah, being attack by a big cat would definitely be worse, imo.
 

alkemyst

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First thing is seriously cats shouldn't be roaming free if they are pets.

Second if you truly believe your cat should and insist it's within a fence, a freaking dog wouldn't have been able to get in.

Third, it's both easy and hard to kill any living creature. Depends on your understanding of vitals and then how easily you can deliver that.

I really don't know how you'd be attacking a dogs legs though unless you were a smurf or carebear.

Windpipe too...under the fucking jaws about to chomp you.

I don't know what your tripod looks like, but if I chose mine for this duty I'd give that dog a home run hit in the head if I thought someone on my team was dying or maimed that night.

I would be willing to place money on that stop block.

Personally though I really doubt it would end up like that with me.
 

Fullmetal Chocobo

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Originally posted by: Lurknomore
I'll take an attack from a 200lb dog over a 120lb cougar or leopard any day.

Dog- uses mouth
Cat- uses mouth and claws. 3x more agile than any dog.

Just hit the damn pooch in the nose or eyes and it will sulk away, tail tucked and whimpering.

My in-laws have 16-22 Borzoi. They are frightening dogs when pissed. They are bad enough that if any dog shows human agression, they are usually put down. My wife would know more about this than I though.

I think it would greatly depend upon the type of dog. But man's best friends and an attacking dog are truly two completely different animals.
 

Woosta

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If you're in any decent shape, you can use your legs and jump, why not random jump stomp attacks? Or kick the shit out of the dog ( provided it isnt a goliath 150 lb whatever you call em ). Treat it like a godamn MMA fight, knee, elbow, choke the shit out, headbutt it, gouge its fucking eye, there are thousands of possible combinations yet most people just don't even bother thinking about that.

Go for vital areas, punch its neck, literally kick it's ass, curb stomp that shit.

Disclaimer - No, I really don't hate dogs but this is what I'd do if one ( of large proportion ) attacked me.
 

MrDudeMan

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I feel bad for most of you if you ever get in a confrontation with a dog. You won't even get a chance to use your ninja skills. They are vastly stronger than a human pound for pound and their jaws are basically vice grips with razor sharp holding pins. Our weight means nothing as we have little leverage to use it effectively against an animal with a natural and tuned killer instinct. If the dog wants to kill you and is decent size, say 100lbs or greater, you stand little chance of hurting it unless you get extremely lucky with an eye-poke or you have a weapon.

Kicking, punching, hitting, jumping, stomping, etc. is not going to work if the dog is raging on you at full capacity.
 

Woosta

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Originally posted by: MrDudeMan
I feel bad for most of you if you ever get in a confrontation with a dog. You won't even get a chance to use your ninja skills. They are vastly stronger than a human pound for pound and their jaws are basically vice grips with razor sharp holding pins. Our weight means nothing as we have little leverage to use it effectively against an animal with a natural and tuned killer instinct. If the dog wants to kill you and is decent size, say 100lbs or greater, you stand little chance of hurting it unless you get extremely lucky with an eye-poke or you have a weapon.

Kicking, punching, hitting, jumping, stomping, etc. is not going to work if the dog is raging on you at full capacity.

There are many variables, such as the type of dog and the type of person. A 100 lber that's born to fight could take out a frail weak human, but it won't do shit against Fedor ( well, not like any living animal would ) but there are a lot of variables here.
 

GiggleGirl

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this entire idea scares the hell out of me. the idea of having to KILL a dog is saddening and i have no idea what the hell i would do if i were attacked. id like to think id try to fight to the death but the thought of being attacked by a freakin dog scares the crap out of me!
 

PlasmaBomb

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Originally posted by: SonnyDaze
Originally posted by: rocadelpunk
I feel like this could be the next great e-peen debate.

Where are the experts to weigh on on how to kill a pitbull with your bear hands.

I think a bear could do it with ease using his hands. :D

LOL owned!
 

PlasmaBomb

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Originally posted by: Modelworks
A self defense expert I watched said the easiest way to fend off a dog or get one to release you from its bite are to go for the eyes. He also made the point that a dog biting you on the leg will not likely kill you but we have the instinctual fear of teeth and biting so people often panic rather than acting to defend themselves.

Darn it I was going to say -

"Go for the eyes Boo!"

/Minsk