BD231
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Siiiiiiigh...., you know nVidia is just going to own "ANYTHING" Matrox and 3D Labs can throw at the market. Maybe, just maybe, ATI will get lucky, but 3D Labs and Matrox have been out of the 3D game for so long, not even the most seasond computer builders vividly remember the time when Matrox had anything to offer outside of 2D quality and dual-head. I really don't think either of the two have a chance on Gods green earth of dethroning the proverbial "God" of the graphics industry.
Sounds very impressive and all, but this has to be on the market very quickly and with good drivers if it's going to be able to compete with the R300 and NV30 this fall.
I think they will skip tri-head and go to quad-head since they have a card like that already (G200mms) 
Cheers,
Aquaman
Cheers,
Aquaman
If both 3dlabs and Matrox can release their next-gen videocards before August and cost reasonably...nvidia will have to play catch up, that hasn't happened for a long time.
BD231
Lifer
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If both 3dlabs and Matrox can release their next-gen videocards before August and cost reasonably...nvidia will have to play catch up, that hasn't happened for a long time.
Ha, ya right. All nVidia has to do is follow it's 6 month product cycle and they'll be fine.
Ha, ya right. All nVidia has to do is follow it's 6 month product cycle and they'll be fine.
<< Siiiiiiigh...., you know nVidia is just going to own "ANYTHING" Matrox and 3D Labs can throw at the market. Maybe, just maybe, ATI will get lucky, but 3D Labs and Matrox have been out of the 3D game for so long, not even the most seasond computer builders vividly remember the time when Matrox had anything to offer outside of 2D quality and dual-head. I really don't think either of the two have a chance on Gods green earth of dethroning the proverbial "God" of the graphics industry. >>
go back a few years, remember when 3dfx was the king and people said exactly same thing about them, that no card would be able to outbeat them, and that if it would happen 3dfx would just release a new card and whoop their ass. Remember that time?
<< go back a few years, remember when 3dfx was the king and people said exactly same thing about them, that no card would be able to outbeat them, and that if it would happen 3dfx would just release a new card and whoop their ass. Remember that time? >>
Different company, different management and MUCH different CEO. Huang's already failed once with the NV1 don't expect him to do it again. 3dfx was doomed from the start if you look back, the upper management didn't give a rats butt about successful product introduction they were more interested in throwing playboy mansion parties (3 of them if I'm not mistaken).
<< Ha, ya right. All nVidia has to do is follow it's 6 month product cycle and they'll be fine. >>
Don't you just love the zealots?
There is some truth to that though... rather than one awesome leap every couple/few years they take tiny-little-baby-steps and eventually creep their way forward to "fastest" again. Not necessarily "best" but definately "fastest".
12 days to find out the truth...Countdown anyone?
All business is risky business, anyone can take the top spot at any time. ATi was pretty damn close with the 8500, and both nV and ATi have learned from their mistakes, so I expect a fierce battle with NV30 vs. R300. But I secretly want Matrox to win...and I think lots of people on AT secretly do too. But if the specs are correct, the features and 2D quality will make Parhelia live up to a proud heritage of great video cards. I'm guessing it won't be the fastest FPS cruncher out there (they've been out of the game for a while), but I don't think it'll matter.
Of course, if it becomes the (quote InqWell) "Geforce4 killa" that would be even better!
All business is risky business, anyone can take the top spot at any time. ATi was pretty damn close with the 8500, and both nV and ATi have learned from their mistakes, so I expect a fierce battle with NV30 vs. R300. But I secretly want Matrox to win...and I think lots of people on AT secretly do too. But if the specs are correct, the features and 2D quality will make Parhelia live up to a proud heritage of great video cards. I'm guessing it won't be the fastest FPS cruncher out there (they've been out of the game for a while), but I don't think it'll matter.
Of course, if it becomes the (quote InqWell) "Geforce4 killa" that would be even better!
<< rather than one awesome leap every couple/few years they take tiny-little-baby-steps and eventually creep their way forward to "fastest" again. >>
Unfortunately, if everything was to be done in the way of "oh so great Matrox", we'd be still playing games designed for DX5, with 50 polygons for characater, blurry textures, and slow framerate.
Leon
TOLD YOU SO!
Electric Amish does that comment mean you are certain that matrox will release a product with those specs this month?
Or does it mean "these are just rumours but i've been spreading them a while myself"?
Personally i think this is just more ass-smoke like the LAST "g1000" spec rumour that started up april 1st...
Electric Amish does that comment mean you are certain that matrox will release a product with those specs this month?
Or does it mean "these are just rumours but i've been spreading them a while myself"?
Personally i think this is just more ass-smoke like the LAST "g1000" spec rumour that started up april 1st...
I love hanging around for cards that are likely to cost more than most desktop workstations
Uhm, I mean...looking forward to it
In all seriousness, it would be nice to have 3 competitors fighting it out for market share, and it's about time Matrox started taking 3D seriously.
Uhm, I mean...looking forward to it
In all seriousness, it would be nice to have 3 competitors fighting it out for market share, and it's about time Matrox started taking 3D seriously.
Link to Reactor Critical
this link hasn't worked for me all day, i dunno how much stock we're supposed to put in rumours that can't even stay online 24 hrs?
this link hasn't worked for me all day, i dunno how much stock we're supposed to put in rumours that can't even stay online 24 hrs?
Poor Amish was flamed when he posted about the new Matrox card a few months ago. How it looks like he has the last laugh.
<< Ha, ya right. All nVidia has to do is follow it's 6 month product cycle and they'll be fine. >>
Yep, they need morons who are willing to go blow $300-$400 dollars every six months for an extra 10 FPS that they can't even see....or that games even use the performance of the card.
All they do is tweak the core a little bit and do small things to make you drop a few more hundred just to think you have the biggest d!ck at AT. It's pretty funny
But on another note, if this Maxtor Parhelia hits the market soon....that should really kick butt. To have the performance of a G4, yet the 2d and functionality would rock. I do development for web and internet software applications (also GUI design and graphic arts). A card like this would own anything Nvidia has, as well as any other competition. I'm using Radeon 8500's in all my computers now. I still don't even use them to the fullest extent, but they have great 2d through the DVI.
Yep, they need morons who are willing to go blow $300-$400 dollars every six months for an extra 10 FPS that they can't even see....or that games even use the performance of the card.
All they do is tweak the core a little bit and do small things to make you drop a few more hundred just to think you have the biggest d!ck at AT. It's pretty funny
But on another note, if this Maxtor Parhelia hits the market soon....that should really kick butt. To have the performance of a G4, yet the 2d and functionality would rock. I do development for web and internet software applications (also GUI design and graphic arts). A card like this would own anything Nvidia has, as well as any other competition. I'm using Radeon 8500's in all my computers now. I still don't even use them to the fullest extent, but they have great 2d through the DVI.
<< << Ha, ya right. All nVidia has to do is follow it's 6 month product cycle and they'll be fine. >>
Yep, they need morons who are willing to go blow $300-$400 dollars every six months for an extra 10 FPS that they can't even see....or that games even use the performance of the card.
All they do is tweak the core a little bit and do small things to make you drop a few more hundred just to think you have the biggest d!ck at AT. It's pretty funny
But on another note, if this Maxtor Parhelia hits the market soon....that should really kick butt. To have the performance of a G4, yet the 2d and functionality would rock. I do development for web and internet software applications (also GUI design and graphic arts). A card like this would own anything Nvidia has, as well as any other competition. I'm using Radeon 8500's in all my computers now. I still don't even use them to the fullest extent, but they have great 2d through the DVI. >>
And what graphics company doesn't sell stripped-down versions of their flagship? ATi certainly does it with the 8500LE and 8500LE LE. NVidia does it with the Ti4400 and Ti4200.
This is also done with value products as well. ATi's Radeon 7000, 7200, and 7500. NVidia's MX460, MX440, and MX420.
Do you really think Matrox won't do it?
BD231
Lifer
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go back a few years, remember when 3dfx was the king and people said exactly same thing about them, that no card would be able to outbeat them, and that if it would happen 3dfx would just release a new card and whoop their ass. Remember that time?
My answer to this.
Different company, different management and MUCH different CEO. Huang's already failed once with the NV1 don't expect him to do it again. 3dfx was doomed from the start if you look back, the upper management didn't give a rats butt about successful product introduction they were more interested in throwing playboy mansion parties (3 of them if I'm not mistaken).
That and the fact that 3Dfx never tried to enter "ANY" other computer market that did not have to do with 3D gaming, besides those TV Tuner cards
Don't you just love the zealots?
:disgust:.........
<< Ha, ya right. All nVidia has to do is follow it's 6 month product cycle and they'll be fine. >>
Yep, they need morons who are willing to go blow $300-$400 dollars every six months for an extra 10 FPS that they can't even see....or that games even use the performance of the card.
All they do is tweak the core a little bit and do small things to make you drop a few more hundred just to think you have the biggest d!ck at AT. It's pretty funny
But on another note, if this Maxtor Parhelia hits the market soon....that should really kick butt. To have the performance of a G4, yet the 2d and functionality would rock. I do development for web and internet software applications (also GUI design and graphic arts). A card like this would own anything Nvidia has, as well as any other competition. I'm using Radeon 8500's in all my computers now. I still don't even use them to the fullest extent, but they have great 2d through the DVI.
My....., arent you the frugal one. Could you possibly make that sound more condescending because I don't think you came off that way at all or anythig......end sarcasm.
My answer to this.
Different company, different management and MUCH different CEO. Huang's already failed once with the NV1 don't expect him to do it again. 3dfx was doomed from the start if you look back, the upper management didn't give a rats butt about successful product introduction they were more interested in throwing playboy mansion parties (3 of them if I'm not mistaken).
That and the fact that 3Dfx never tried to enter "ANY" other computer market that did not have to do with 3D gaming, besides those TV Tuner cards
Don't you just love the zealots?
:disgust:.........
<< Ha, ya right. All nVidia has to do is follow it's 6 month product cycle and they'll be fine. >>
Yep, they need morons who are willing to go blow $300-$400 dollars every six months for an extra 10 FPS that they can't even see....or that games even use the performance of the card.
All they do is tweak the core a little bit and do small things to make you drop a few more hundred just to think you have the biggest d!ck at AT. It's pretty funny
But on another note, if this Maxtor Parhelia hits the market soon....that should really kick butt. To have the performance of a G4, yet the 2d and functionality would rock. I do development for web and internet software applications (also GUI design and graphic arts). A card like this would own anything Nvidia has, as well as any other competition. I'm using Radeon 8500's in all my computers now. I still don't even use them to the fullest extent, but they have great 2d through the DVI.
My....., arent you the frugal one. Could you possibly make that sound more condescending because I don't think you came off that way at all or anythig......end sarcasm.
I'm just waiting for a good price on a card that is decently priced, has okay 3D, and has DVI-D at 1600x1200. That's all I need right now...
BFG10K
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Poor Amish was flamed when he posted about the new Matrox card a few months ago. How it looks like he has the last laugh.
We'll see.
Until we see actual benchmarks the specs mean nothing since there's no way to guage how it'll perform in the real world. This is because nobody knows the dynamics of the card and because you can't use Matrox's previous cards as a baseline for the comparison.
We'll see.
Until we see actual benchmarks the specs mean nothing since there's no way to guage how it'll perform in the real world. This is because nobody knows the dynamics of the card and because you can't use Matrox's previous cards as a baseline for the comparison.
<<And what graphics company doesn't sell stripped-down versions of their flagship? ATi certainly does it with the 8500LE and 8500LE LE. NVidia does it with the Ti4400 and Ti4200.
This is also done with value products as well. ATi's Radeon 7000, 7200, and 7500. NVidia's MX460, MX440, and MX420.
Do you really think Matrox won't do it? >>
No company is above what i said. Matrox is doing the same thing by offering it in the business sector and then the game sector. Its basically the same card with cut features. My point really isnt that Company XYZ wont do it....it was
The Nvidia Fanboys don't need to come into a Matrox post to knock a product they know nothing about. Especially for the loads of money they drop on getting that extra 10 FPS Then you look at a card with tri-head, usually outstanding 3d quality, possible g4 performance, and overall quality company/cards......they knock it for fear they might want one and Nvidia will be left in the dust
bdog231 - keep neffing your way around the forums with your pointless post and stupid comments. Talk about condensending. What a moron. Jeeze.
This is also done with value products as well. ATi's Radeon 7000, 7200, and 7500. NVidia's MX460, MX440, and MX420.
Do you really think Matrox won't do it? >>
No company is above what i said. Matrox is doing the same thing by offering it in the business sector and then the game sector. Its basically the same card with cut features. My point really isnt that Company XYZ wont do it....it was
The Nvidia Fanboys don't need to come into a Matrox post to knock a product they know nothing about. Especially for the loads of money they drop on getting that extra 10 FPS
Then you look at a card with tri-head, usually outstanding 3d quality, possible g4 performance, and overall quality company/cards......they knock it for fear they might want one and Nvidia will be left in the dust bdog231 - keep neffing your way around the forums with your pointless post and stupid comments. Talk about condensending. What a moron. Jeeze.
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