Ravers beware: Ecstacy and Coke cause mutations

[Ogg]

Originally posted by: Encryptic

Originally posted by: DanTMWTMP

Originally posted by: Ogg

Originally posted by: DanTMWTMP


i don't care if there are test kits or not...whoever takes these is a dumbass either way...those testkits are there because it's logical to live after you do drugs .... cuz it sucks to die no?

stupid

Youre a pointy nosed dumbass.......


hahahahahahahahahaha 😀😀

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that made no sense....fvck off druggy...

well actually, yes, keep doing drugs and just die...we don't need your kind...keeps the dumbasses off the planet thank you

He calls someone a dumbass, yet every post from his keyboard evinces no sign that he has any concept of spelling, grammar or sentence structure. Not to mention, you have yet to come up with a good argument. Try again and maybe you'll be taken seriously.

Kick his ass, Sea Bass!

thanks man, now go get Feldenak and we'll all go over and scare The Man With the Master Plan




:beer:

 

[tweakmm]

When you shoot up rats with enough sachrine they get cancer. Does that mean that I'm going to get cancer if I have Sweet And Low every once and a while? Probably not. Does that mean that both of these studies are BS? Probably so.

 

[tcsenter]

Originally posted by: iwearnosox
Wasn't CNR the one that had to admit their previous work on ecstasy was flawed and clinically incorrect?

Nope, that was a Johns Hopkins study. And they didn't "have to" admit anything. The researchers discovered and reported their own error: a bottle of methamphetamine was mislabeled MDMA (ecstasy). So the results were valid for methamphetamine use, not MDMA use.

It is worth nothing that methamphetamine is just as coveted by the drug culture as Ecstasy.

 

[Nitemare]

Originally posted by: Encryptic

Originally posted by: kranky

Originally posted by: Feldenak
I haven't heard of an Ecstasy death yet...

Michael DelGiudice, 18, dead from Ecstasy .
Brandy French, 16, dead from Ecstasy .
Michaela Korpinen, 16, dead from Ecstasy .
Brittney Chambers, 16, dead from Ecstasy.

Now you've heard.

Yeah, that's a great rebuttal. Try this, just a little further down the page:

A spokeswoman for the National Institutes of Health said there is no specific amount of the drug that will cause an overdose. Rather, a person's body weight and age are factors, as well as simultaneous use of other drugs, including alcohol...."

In case you're having trouble reading between the lines: There's no CONCLUSIVE EVIDENCE that X kills people.

Being a dumbass and mixing X with alcohol or horse tranquilizer = A Very Bad Fvcking Idea (tm)

Are you saying that ravers don't hit X and drink at the same time?

 

[bigalt]

Originally posted by: Nitemare

Originally posted by: Encryptic

Originally posted by: kranky

Originally posted by: Feldenak
I haven't heard of an Ecstasy death yet...

Michael DelGiudice, 18, dead from Ecstasy .
Brandy French, 16, dead from Ecstasy .
Michaela Korpinen, 16, dead from Ecstasy .
Brittney Chambers, 16, dead from Ecstasy.

Now you've heard.

Yeah, that's a great rebuttal. Try this, just a little further down the page:

A spokeswoman for the National Institutes of Health said there is no specific amount of the drug that will cause an overdose. Rather, a person's body weight and age are factors, as well as simultaneous use of other drugs, including alcohol...."

In case you're having trouble reading between the lines: There's no CONCLUSIVE EVIDENCE that X kills people.

Being a dumbass and mixing X with alcohol or horse tranquilizer = A Very Bad Fvcking Idea (tm)

Are you saying that ravers don't hit X and drink at the same time?

actually the ones that are serious about it don't.

 

[Nitemare]

Originally posted by: bigalt

Originally posted by: Nitemare

Originally posted by: Encryptic

Originally posted by: kranky

Originally posted by: Feldenak
I haven't heard of an Ecstasy death yet...

Michael DelGiudice, 18, dead from Ecstasy .
Brandy French, 16, dead from Ecstasy .
Michaela Korpinen, 16, dead from Ecstasy .
Brittney Chambers, 16, dead from Ecstasy.

Now you've heard.

Yeah, that's a great rebuttal. Try this, just a little further down the page:

A spokeswoman for the National Institutes of Health said there is no specific amount of the drug that will cause an overdose. Rather, a person's body weight and age are factors, as well as simultaneous use of other drugs, including alcohol...."

In case you're having trouble reading between the lines: There's no CONCLUSIVE EVIDENCE that X kills people.

Being a dumbass and mixing X with alcohol or horse tranquilizer = A Very Bad Fvcking Idea (tm)

Are you saying that ravers don't hit X and drink at the same time?

actually the ones that are serious about it don't.

Does it come with warning labels?

 

[Encryptic]

Originally posted by: Nitemare

Originally posted by: Encryptic

Originally posted by: kranky

Originally posted by: Feldenak
I haven't heard of an Ecstasy death yet...

Michael DelGiudice, 18, dead from Ecstasy .
Brandy French, 16, dead from Ecstasy .
Michaela Korpinen, 16, dead from Ecstasy .
Brittney Chambers, 16, dead from Ecstasy.

Now you've heard.

Yeah, that's a great rebuttal. Try this, just a little further down the page:

A spokeswoman for the National Institutes of Health said there is no specific amount of the drug that will cause an overdose. Rather, a person's body weight and age are factors, as well as simultaneous use of other drugs, including alcohol...."

In case you're having trouble reading between the lines: There's no CONCLUSIVE EVIDENCE that X kills people.

Being a dumbass and mixing X with alcohol or horse tranquilizer = A Very Bad Fvcking Idea (tm)

Are you saying that ravers don't hit X and drink at the same time?

Yeah, all of them suck down a bottle of Jack Daniels and pop 50 hits of X at the same time.

Jesus...no one can accept the fact that it's possible to use X and other recreational drugs responsibly, but find it very easy to lump them in with coke, heroin, crack and other hard drugs.

 

[Vortex22]

Yeah, all of them suck down a bottle of Jack Daniels and pop 50 hits of X at the same time.

Jesus...no one can accept the fact that it's possible to use X and other recreational drugs responsibly, but find it very easy to lump them in with coke, heroin, crack and other hard drugs.

You should probably stop trying to convince yourself that using X is ok.

 

[bigalt]

Originally posted by: Vortex22

Yeah, all of them suck down a bottle of Jack Daniels and pop 50 hits of X at the same time.

Jesus...no one can accept the fact that it's possible to use X and other recreational drugs responsibly, but find it very easy to lump them in with coke, heroin, crack and other hard drugs.

You should probably stop trying to convince yourself that using X is ok.

why do people attack rich-kid drugs so much? i can understand about crack and stuff, because people get hyped up and go killing people (like alcohol).

But with drugs like pot and ecstasy, people are just content to smoke it and not bother people. The anti-drug people aren't just content with not using it, they want to attack the people that do.

 

[tcsenter]

A spokeswoman for the National Institutes of Health said there is no specific amount of the drug that will cause an overdose. Rather, a person's body weight and age are factors, as well as simultaneous use of other drugs, including alcohol...."

In case you're having trouble reading between the lines: There's no CONCLUSIVE EVIDENCE that X kills people.

Errr...umm...the significance of the statement is that the maximum safe and lethal dose of MDMA depends on several factors. MDMA can interact with other intoxicating substances to produce a lethal result. MDMA can also be lethal all by itself.

There is a mountain of definitive evidence that MDMA kills people. You might want to consider taking "Reading Between the Lines: 101" over again.

 

[Vortex22]

Originally posted by: bigalt

Originally posted by: Vortex22

Yeah, all of them suck down a bottle of Jack Daniels and pop 50 hits of X at the same time.

Jesus...no one can accept the fact that it's possible to use X and other recreational drugs responsibly, but find it very easy to lump them in with coke, heroin, crack and other hard drugs.

You should probably stop trying to convince yourself that using X is ok.

why do people attack rich-kid drugs so much? i can understand about crack and stuff, because people get hyped up and go killing people (like alcohol).

But with drugs like pot and ecstasy, people are just content to smoke it and not bother people. The anti-drug people aren't just content with not using it, they want to attack the people that do.

X is much more dangerous than pot. I have no problem with pot.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: bigalt

Originally posted by: Vortex22

Yeah, all of them suck down a bottle of Jack Daniels and pop 50 hits of X at the same time.

Jesus...no one can accept the fact that it's possible to use X and other recreational drugs responsibly, but find it very easy to lump them in with coke, heroin, crack and other hard drugs.

You should probably stop trying to convince yourself that using X is ok.

why do people attack rich-kid drugs so much? i can understand about crack and stuff, because people get hyped up and go killing people (like alcohol).

But with drugs like pot and ecstasy, people are just content to smoke it and not bother people. The anti-drug people aren't just content with not using it, they want to attack the people that do.

So what are you, some poor little Rich Kid? Are you above the law? Will your daddy bribe the court to keep your punk ass out of "Pound Me in the Butt" prison if you are caught?


Hehehe..disregard what I just posted, being rich is cool! You get away with so much!

 

[Encryptic]

Originally posted by: tcsenter

A spokeswoman for the National Institutes of Health said there is no specific amount of the drug that will cause an overdose. Rather, a person's body weight and age are factors, as well as simultaneous use of other drugs, including alcohol...."

In case you're having trouble reading between the lines: There's no CONCLUSIVE EVIDENCE that X kills people.

Errr...umm...the significance of the statement is that the maximum safe and lethal dose of MDMA depends on several factors. MDMA can interact with other intoxicating substances to produce a lethal result. MDMA can also be lethal all by itself.

There is a mountain of definitive evidence that MDMA kills people. You might want to consider taking "Reading Between the Lines: 101" over again.

Really. Feel free to cite some reliable sources besides "My friend's brother's girlfriend's sister died after taking X" and I'll be glad to take a look.

 

[Encryptic]

Originally posted by: Vortex22

Yeah, all of them suck down a bottle of Jack Daniels and pop 50 hits of X at the same time.

Jesus...no one can accept the fact that it's possible to use X and other recreational drugs responsibly, but find it very easy to lump them in with coke, heroin, crack and other hard drugs.

You should probably stop trying to convince yourself that using X is ok.

I don't need to convince myself of anything. I'm making an informed decision to use it on an occasional basis in the privacy of my own home. If you don't want to use it, fine by me. Don't attack me for using it or compare me to a crack addict.

 

[MrScott81]

there's no reason to argue about it...let the druggies keep doing drugs, and those who don't want to don't have to.......as long as the druggies stay away from me i could give a $hit what they do on their own free time.

 

[Feldenak]

Originally posted by: Nitemare

Originally posted by: Encryptic

Originally posted by: kranky

Originally posted by: Feldenak
I haven't heard of an Ecstasy death yet...

Michael DelGiudice, 18, dead from Ecstasy .
Brandy French, 16, dead from Ecstasy .
Michaela Korpinen, 16, dead from Ecstasy .
Brittney Chambers, 16, dead from Ecstasy.

Now you've heard.

Yeah, that's a great rebuttal. Try this, just a little further down the page:

A spokeswoman for the National Institutes of Health said there is no specific amount of the drug that will cause an overdose. Rather, a person's body weight and age are factors, as well as simultaneous use of other drugs, including alcohol...."

In case you're having trouble reading between the lines: There's no CONCLUSIVE EVIDENCE that X kills people.

Being a dumbass and mixing X with alcohol or horse tranquilizer = A Very Bad Fvcking Idea (tm)

Are you saying that ravers don't hit X and drink at the same time?

I never did. I wasn't into the dance thing (trance, house, etc... annoy me) but I bounced around a few raves and a few private X parties. The only thing myself and my associates ever drank was water and an occasional soda. I make a concerted effort not to mix drugs (booze & Tylenol, X & booze, etc...)

 

[tcsenter]

Really. Feel free to cite some reliable sources besides "My friend's brother's girlfriend's sister died after taking X" and I'll be glad to take a look.

Just so that I understand what it is that you want me to prove, that MDMA can be lethal? Because if I do find some sources that prove MDMA can be lethal, and your response is something like "Well duh, because they overdosed on it", then you're not asking me to prove that MDMA can be lethal, you're asking me to prove something else, what I do not know.

 

[Feldenak]

Originally posted by: scottdog81
there's no reason to argue about it...let the druggies keep doing drugs, and those who don't want to don't have to.......as long as the druggies stay away from me i could give a $hit what they do on their own free time.

Heh, chances are you don't know who the "druggies" are. For example, you'd never be able to tell just by looking at me that I use X on occasion.

 

[imported_Phil]

Mutations? ah heck.

 

[RU482]

Hmm, here's a thought. If things like Cocain and X are manipulating and modifying our DNA, what do the things we consume every day (foods and drinks) or medications do to our DNA?

Might as well do what you like, were all screwed anyway

 

[Feldenak]

Originally posted by: tcsenter

Really. Feel free to cite some reliable sources besides "My friend's brother's girlfriend's sister died after taking X" and I'll be glad to take a look.

Just so that I understand what it is that you want me to prove, that MDMA can be lethal? Because if I do find some sources that prove MDMA can be lethal, and your response is something like "Well duh, because they overdosed on it", then you're not asking me to prove that MDMA can be lethal.

ANYTHING can be lethal.
Too much water

 

[Encryptic]

Originally posted by: Feldenak

Originally posted by: Nitemare

Originally posted by: Encryptic

Originally posted by: kranky

Originally posted by: Feldenak
I haven't heard of an Ecstasy death yet...

Michael DelGiudice, 18, dead from Ecstasy .
Brandy French, 16, dead from Ecstasy .
Michaela Korpinen, 16, dead from Ecstasy .
Brittney Chambers, 16, dead from Ecstasy.

Now you've heard.

Yeah, that's a great rebuttal. Try this, just a little further down the page:

A spokeswoman for the National Institutes of Health said there is no specific amount of the drug that will cause an overdose. Rather, a person's body weight and age are factors, as well as simultaneous use of other drugs, including alcohol...."

In case you're having trouble reading between the lines: There's no CONCLUSIVE EVIDENCE that X kills people.

Being a dumbass and mixing X with alcohol or horse tranquilizer = A Very Bad Fvcking Idea (tm)

Are you saying that ravers don't hit X and drink at the same time?

I never did. I wasn't into the dance thing (trance, house, etc... annoy me) but I bounced around a few raves and a few private X parties. The only thing myself and my associates ever drank was water and an occasional soda. I make a concerted effort not to mix drugs (booze & Tylenol, X & booze, etc...)

THIS is what I'm talking about when I say "use drugs responsibly".

 

[Sust]

Hmm... interesting.
I wonder where they are gonna publish their results.
I dont think there have been any other papers that have come out linking mutagenesis with MDMA.
I think theyve suggested that MDMA can be neurotoxic and could induce cell death even outside of the brain.
It will be really interesting to see their dosage, length of exposure, and the mechanism of action.
They are sure to get themselves noticed when another MDMA flamewar erupts over their findings.
Now to kill this thread...

Anyone wanna host scientific MDMA articles?

 

[Brutuskend]

Proof!

 

[matt426malm]

Originally posted by: yobarman
am i going to start growing a 4th leg or something now?

Oh well..

Anyways, never tried coke, and don't plan it. X is a lot of fun, but very dangerous if you fawk with it too much.

you have 3 legs?