Rasmussen poll 5/2: Trump 41%, Clinton 39%

[Doc Savage Fan]

Is Quinnipiac reasonably respected?

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...nton-trump-in-airtight-race.html?intcmp=hpbt2

5/10/16

The Quinnipiac University Poll tested a Clinton-Trump match-up in Florida, Ohio and Pennsylvania. The two were close in every state, with Trump even edging Clinton in Ohio, 43-39 percent.

In Florida, Clinton led Trump 43-42 percent. The Democratic primary front-runner held the same 1-point edge in Pennsylvania as well.

“Six months from Election Day, the presidential races between Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump in the three most crucial states, Florida, Ohio and Pennsylvania, are too close to call,” Peter A. Brown, assistant director of the Quinnipiac Poll, said in a statement, also noting that Trump at this point is doing better in Pennsylvania than the GOP nominees in 2008 and 2012.

 

[LegendKiller]

Is Quinnipiac reasonably respected?

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...nton-trump-in-airtight-race.html?intcmp=hpbt2

I think lefties have woefully underestimated the fact that so many people just hate hillary.

 

[fskimospy]

Is Quinnipiac reasonably respected?

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...nton-trump-in-airtight-race.html?intcmp=hpbt2

Sure but what's your point? As has already been covered in this thread, polling averages are what people should be looking at. This is going to be a very long campaign season if you guys are going to seize on every poll that gives you somewhat favorable news. For instance there was another poll of Florida voters that happened just a few days before that which put Clinton up by 13 points there. Or the Pennsylvania poll that came out a week earlier which put Clinton up by 15 points instead of 1. Oddly enough you didn't trot those out. I wonder why? (I don't actually wonder why.)

This is why you should use polling averages. If you wants to cherry pick polls I'm sure you can convince themselves of whatever outcome they want to see happen. It is also somewhat sad that the best results you can find are 'Trump is only losing by a bit'.

 

[fskimospy]

I think lefties have woefully underestimated the fact that so many people just hate hillary.

You don't seem to mind that Trump is much more hated than she is, haha. Funny how you uncritically swallowed one favorable poll just the same way DSF did. Self delusion is a hell of a drug.

 

[LegendKiller]

You don't seem to mind that Trump is much more hated than she is, haha. Funny how you uncritically swallowed one favorable poll just the same way DSF did. Self delusion is a hell of a drug.

Isn't it funny that despite her "credentials", her woman card, her man - whore and allegedly rapist husband, that she just can't convincingly beat a loser socialist and a "bloviating" centrist?

What does that tell you?

You're going to lose and your meltdown will be epic.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

Isn't it funny that despite her "credentials", her woman card, her man - whore and allegedly rapist husband, that she just can't convincingly beat a loser socialist and a "bloviating" centrist?

What does that tell you?

You're going to lose and your meltdown will be epic.

marked for later... and much pointing and laughing.

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

You don't seem to mind that Trump is much more hated than she is, haha. Funny how you uncritically swallowed one favorable poll just the same way DSF did. Self delusion is a hell of a drug.

I saw the poll, was surprised by it and wondered if it was a credible pollster. That's it. You're seriously twisted. Seek help.

 

[Indus]

I saw the poll, was surprised by it and wondered if it was a credible pollster. That's it. You're seriously twisted. Seek help.

Seek help. Seek help. Mantra for everything.. people don't seek help, they tell candidates to get lost and vote for the lesser of two evils.

Who's more evil?

Hillary status quo

Trump violent demagogue with no idea about our economy and will prosecute women if they get raped and don't want to have the rapist's baby.

Easy choice. Seek help for your denial dude.

 

[fskimospy]

Isn't it funny that despite her "credentials", her woman card, her man - whore and allegedly rapist husband, that she just can't convincingly beat a loser socialist and a "bloviating" centrist?

What does that tell you?

You're going to lose and your meltdown will be epic.

She's actually beating Bernie by more than Obama beat her and she's leading Trump quite comfortably in the polling averages. What does it tell you that you've convinced yourself that this is somehow a problem? Hahaha.

I'm not going to lose anything, actually. If Trump wins then I get a tax cut and if Clinton wins we get someone who isn't a moron (she understands how federal debt works, for example, haha.) . Either way I win. You on the other hand are clearly pretty emotionally invested in this and are pretty clearly upset that everyone here makes fun of you for being an idiot.

Oh also, nice try at recasting Trump as a centrist. Lol.

 

[fskimospy]

I saw the poll, was surprised by it and wondered if it was a credible pollster. That's it. You're seriously twisted. Seek help.

'Who, me?'

 

[Indus]

You're going to lose and your meltdown will be epic.

Actually it won't be such a bad thing if she loses.

I have multiple countries citizenship so I can hop abroad for a few years, post here in complete happiness and I can leave the jackasses who voted for Trump to simmer in their choice because I know the country will start to detest him and swing back like it swung back after W.

 

[Genx87]

Seek help. Seek help. Mantra for everything.. people don't seek help, they tell candidates to get lost and vote for the lesser of two evils.

Who's more evil?

Hillary status quo

Trump violent demagogue with no idea about our economy and will prosecute women if they get raped and don't want to have the rapist's baby.

Easy choice. Seek help for your denial dude.

Eh what? Hillary voted for the Iraq war and pushed for Libyan involvement. She also wants to topple the Assad regime. Hillary is plenty violent and has actually voted or directly pushed for said violence. If you want to compare body counts, Hillary wins by a million.

 

[Blackjack200]

Sure but what's your point? As has already been covered in this thread, polling averages are what people should be looking at. This is going to be a very long campaign season if you guys are going to seize on every poll that gives you somewhat favorable news. For instance there was another poll of Florida voters that happened just a few days before that which put Clinton up by 13 points there. Or the Pennsylvania poll that came out a week earlier which put Clinton up by 15 points instead of 1. Oddly enough you didn't trot those out. I wonder why? (I don't actually wonder why.)

This is why you should use polling averages. If you wants to cherry pick polls I'm sure you can convince themselves of whatever outcome they want to see happen. It is also somewhat sad that the best results you can find are 'Trump is only losing by a bit'.

This. This right here is why May-November is going to be awful. Even if Clinton maintains a comfortable lead every goddamn outlier poll is going to have its own tweet storm, ATOT thread, and think piece on WaPo.

If Clinton's lead does legitimately narrow (as I suspect it will), it's going to be insufferable.

 

[Indus]

Eh what? Hillary voted for the Iraq war and pushed for Libyan involvement. She also wants to topple the Assad regime. Hillary is plenty violent and has actually voted or directly pushed for said violence. If you want to compare body counts, Hillary wins by a million.

Except people view one thing differently.

How does it affect ME and MY LIFE in the HERE and NOW?

 

[Genx87]

Except people view one thing differently.

How does it affect ME and MY LIFE in the HERE and NOW?

Speaking of people in denial. And that isnt just you. But the people you describe. When a leader kills people in far away lands it absolutely affects us at home.

 

[fskimospy]

This. This right here is why May-November is going to be awful. Even if Clinton maintains a comfortable lead every goddamn outlier poll is going to have its own tweet storm, ATOT thread, and think piece on WaPo.

If Clinton's lead does legitimately narrow (as I suspect it will), it's going to be insufferable.

This sort of thing seems to inevitably become insufferable. People are emotionally invested in their political sports team winning so they naturally ignore inconvenient information and cling to information that tells them what they want to hear. I do the same thing every year when I convince myself that the Eagles will somehow win the super bowl.

If you look at things objectively all the information currently available strongly indicates Clinton has a comfortable lead. Most people expect that to narrow somewhat as Republican partisanship overcomes distaste of Trump, but she should still win, barring some major event.

The thing is, if all the averages said Trump was winning I wouldn't pick random polls that told me what I want to hear, I would accept it as reality. Some people aren't capable of doing that.

 

[hal2kilo]

This. This right here is why May-November is going to be awful. Even if Clinton maintains a comfortable lead every goddamn outlier poll is going to have its own tweet storm, ATOT thread, and think piece on WaPo.

If Clinton's lead does legitimately narrow (as I suspect it will), it's going to be insufferable.

Welcome to P&N during election season.

 

[dank69]

Eh what? Hillary voted for the Iraq war and pushed for Libyan involvement. She also wants to topple the Assad regime. Hillary is plenty violent and has actually voted or directly pushed for said violence. If you want to compare body counts, Hillary wins by a million.

That's a tired old distortion of actual events.

 

[Genx87]

That's a tired old distortion of actual events.

Is this where you try to spin an authorization for military force isnt actually voting to use military in a war? You fall under what Indus calls, people in denial.

 

[hal2kilo]

Looks like this could be bad news for Republican down ballots.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...ndidates-who-back-trump/ar-BBsRmM2?li=BBnb7Kz

Nearly half of voters in a new poll would not support candidates who have endorsed likely Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump

Edit: Took awhile to fix this. Friggin IE 11 (stuck with it).

 

[brycejones]

Isn't it funny that despite her "credentials", her woman card, her man - whore and allegedly rapist husband, that she just can't convincingly beat a loser socialist and a "bloviating" centrist?

What does that tell you?

You're going to lose and your meltdown will be epic.

QFP

 

[Subyman]

Is this where you try to spin an authorization for military force isnt actually voting to use military in a war? You fall under what Indus calls, people in denial.

Practically everyone was drunk on freedom fries.

 

[dank69]

Is this where you try to spin an authorization for military force isnt actually voting to use military in a war? You fall under what Indus calls, people in denial.

No, it's where you ignore the fact that the Bush Admin. asked for the AUMF saying it was needed for negotiation purposes with the promise that it would only be used as a last resort and then proceeded to break that promise.

 

[echo4747]

Trump violent demagogue with no idea about our economy and will prosecute women if they get raped and don't want to have the rapist's baby.

I have a bridge to sell you

 

[Exophase]

This sort of thing seems to inevitably become insufferable. People are emotionally invested in their political sports team winning so they naturally ignore inconvenient information and cling to information that tells them what they want to hear. I do the same thing every year when I convince myself that the Eagles will somehow win the super bowl.

If you look at things objectively all the information currently available strongly indicates Clinton has a comfortable lead. Most people expect that to narrow somewhat as Republican partisanship overcomes distaste of Trump, but she should still win, barring some major event.

The thing is, if all the averages said Trump was winning I wouldn't pick random polls that told me what I want to hear, I would accept it as reality. Some people aren't capable of doing that.

I have a feeling your number of "hahas" per post is going to skyrocket.