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Moonbeam

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Modelan is French for cut the grass.

Which reminds me, what is Irish and sits in the back yard?
 

ivwshane

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It is insane.

Yep, it's EVERYONE else that's gone insane! It certainly isn't the guy that has justified every flip flop trump has made or the guy who denies trump said the things trump actually said. Nope, everyone else is insane.

/S
 

LegendKiller

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I don't understand LK. You are saying the actual audio was created after the event or that the content of the audio (such as them exaggerating it being a throw) was false? If you think that the audio was manufactured later then that's a little out there man.

You think that is out there yet think that a grown, and respected, man is going to throw a woman to the ground for no reason in public?

You think that this woman would never give false witness or some of with a scheme to fuck over lewandowski? You think that this is the worst thing, or most unbelievable thing a woman has made up to froth up the white knights and sjws?

Tawana brawley? Duke rape?

This chick has done this to how many people now? It seems like every man she meets she accuses of sexual harassment and every situation she has been has been a beating. And you really find the possibility that she falsified evidence, created the recording after the fact, or even close to it and embellished purposefully that far fetched?

Are you goddamned kidding me?

She triggered every fucking white knight and liberal feminist on the planet and knew what she was doing. All because she, Ben schapiro, and her boyfriend, love cruz and she has a book coming out.

It is *FAR* more believable that she did that 100% unintentionally, when the video completely refuted her, than to believe she would never do that. Because her character is so beyond reproach that she, and her audio, should be believed well over the visual evidence, the secret service, and Lewandowski.

How can you be so fucking naive?
 
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LegendKiller

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Yep, it's EVERYONE else that's gone insane! It certainly isn't the guy that has justified every flip flop trump has made or the guy who denies trump said the things trump actually said. Nope, everyone else is insane.

/S
Gotta love hurling around flip flop accusations. Tpp?


Ohh, and how she hates ws but will take hundreds of thousands from them.


Ohh, and how she thinks every woman deserves to be believed. Except the ones who claimed bill raped them or influenced them.

Ohh, and how she wants to stop corrupt Washington, but the Clinton Foundation peddled influence globally.

Ohh, and how she was dirt poor after they left the wh but are now worth 111mm, at least.

Ohh, and she never had classified email on her system.

Ohh, and it was the video, sorry, err a terrorist attack, no it was the video.

Ohh, and she wants to put the coal miners out of business, but nope, she doesn't want to do that either.
 
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Gotta love hurling around flip flop accusations. Tpp?


Ohh, and how she hates ws but will take hundreds of thousands from them.


Ohh, and how she thinks every woman deserves to be believed. Except the ones who claimed bill raped them or influenced them.

Ohh, and how she wants to stop corrupt Washington, but the Clinton Foundation peddled influence globally.

Ohh, and how she was dirt poor after they left the wh but are now worth 111mm, at least.

Ohh, and she never had classified email on her system.

Ohh, and it was the video, sorry, err a terrorist attack, no it was the video.

Ohh, and she wants to put the coal miners out of business, but nope, she doesn't want to do that either.

how about, for once, you address drumpf's penchant for flip-flopping on nearly every 'major' issue, from abortion to minimum wage to taxes. Just drumpf's stance(s), nobody else.
Give that a shot.
 

ivwshane

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Thanks for proving my point!

Gotta love hurling around flip flop accusations. Tpp?


Ohh, and how she hates ws but will take hundreds of thousands from them.


Ohh, and how she thinks every woman deserves to be believed. Except the ones who claimed bill raped them or influenced them.

Ohh, and how she wants to stop corrupt Washington, but the Clinton Foundation peddled influence globally.

Ohh, and how she was dirt poor after they left the wh but are now worth 111mm, at least.

Ohh, and she never had classified email on her system.

Ohh, and it was the video, sorry, err a terrorist attack, no it was the video.

Ohh, and she wants to put the coal miners out of business, but nope, she doesn't want to do that either.
 

LegendKiller

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how about, for once, you address drumpf's penchant for flip-flopping on nearly every 'major' issue, from abortion to minimum wage to taxes. Just drumpf's stance(s), nobody else.
Give that a shot.

So let me get this straight, I don't even bring up flip flops, I point out the hypocrisy of tossing around flipflop accusations, then I have to justify pointing out the hypocrisy when I didn't even bring it up in the first place?

GTFO.
 

ivwshane

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So let me get this straight, I don't even bring up flip flops, I point out the hypocrisy of tossing around flipflop accusations, then I have to justify pointing out the hypocrisy when I didn't even bring it up in the first place?

GTFO.

You really aren't that smart are you? My post had nothing to do with flip flops other than showing how you deny and justify anything when it's about trump to show you who the actual insane person is. You then launched into an irrelevant rant.

I'd laugh at you if you weren't so pathetic.
 
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So let me get this straight, I don't even bring up flip flops, I point out the hypocrisy of tossing around flipflop accusations, then I have to justify pointing out the hypocrisy when I didn't even bring it up in the first place?

GTFO.

just the perfect drumpfosphere answer. the tangelo fruit rollup stretched over cat litter would be proud.
 

lopri

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Gotta love hurling around flip flop accusations. Tpp?


Ohh, and how she hates ws but will take hundreds of thousands from them.


Ohh, and how she thinks every woman deserves to be believed. Except the ones who claimed bill raped them or influenced them.

Ohh, and how she wants to stop corrupt Washington, but the Clinton Foundation peddled influence globally.

Ohh, and how she was dirt poor after they left the wh but are now worth 111mm, at least.

Ohh, and she never had classified email on her system.

Ohh, and it was the video, sorry, err a terrorist attack, no it was the video.

Ohh, and she wants to put the coal miners out of business, but nope, she doesn't want to do that either.

Where is a flip-flop? :confused:
 

LegendKiller

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You really aren't that smart are you? My post had nothing to do with flip flops other than showing how you deny and justify anything when it's about trump to show you who the actual insane person is. You then launched into an irrelevant rant.

I'd laugh at you if you weren't so pathetic.

And you really aren't so smart in that pointing out how much trump flip flops you highlight your own candidate's massive failures in flip flopping. Sorry, you brought it up, you dug yourself the hole, now get buried in it.

You're losing grip like your candidate is losing the election. It'll be awesome when you're crying in your cups about how unfair life is, when, in reality, HillBilly lost because she just plain sucks.
 

ivwshane

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And you really aren't so smart in that pointing out how much trump flip flops you highlight your own candidate's massive failures in flip flopping. Sorry, you brought it up, you dug yourself the hole, now get buried in it.

You're losing grip like your candidate is losing the election. It'll be awesome when you're crying in your cups about how unfair life is, when, in reality, HillBilly lost because she just plain sucks.

Get yourself a mirror.
 

buckshot24

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Yep, it's EVERYONE else that's gone insane! It certainly isn't the guy that has justified every flip flop trump has made or the guy who denies trump said the things trump actually said. Nope, everyone else is insane.

/S
Some criticism of Trump isn't insane but a lot of it is. I know a guy who was blasting Trump because some people made knock off MAGA caps in China. That's some of the insanity I'm talking about.

Flip Flopping isn't an insane criticism. Calling him racist, is insane. Calling him anti-woman is insane. Saying he said all Mexicans are rapists and drug dealers is insane and a lie.

There is plenty legit stuff to criticize him over, you don't need to make stuff up.
 

LegendKiller

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Get yourself a mirror.

I have no problem with him flip flopping. Indeed, I think it's great. Why? Because he flip flopped to conservative on things that he's actually probably more liberal on, such as social stuff, things that conservatives need to get over.

Other things, I disagree with, but can live with.

Can you live with Hillary actually being a TPP supporter and only hating it once Bernsie called her on it?
 

Indus

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The funny thing is it's like 2008 all over again except in reverse.

Trump is running on celebrity status like Obama.
Hillary is running on achievements like McCain.

McCain lost because of economy and Sarah Palin being a heart attack away from the Presidency.

Trump is worse than Sarah Palin at the head of the ticket but there's a perception the economy is bad in some states but not so much in others.

If Hillary makes it about herself like McCain.. I did this and that boring shit.. she loses.
If Hillary attacks Trump.. she loses like Kerry.
The only way to win is to do an Obama.. give the public what they want at the moment and Bernie and his positions are exactly what the public want.

Despite this forum's members screaming back and forth that socialism is evil and what we need is capitalism.. the country has shifted after 2008 and the bailouts. It's foolish to ignore the will of the people and the will of the people is the country is left of center.

Who'll do a better marketing job? Hillary or Trump?
 

buckshot24

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I have no problem with him flip flopping. Indeed, I think it's great. Why? Because he flip flopped to conservative on things that he's actually probably more liberal on, such as social stuff, things that conservatives need to get over.

Other things, I disagree with, but can live with.

Can you live with Hillary actually being a TPP supporter and only hating it once Bernsie called her on it?
They act like as if Hitler "flip flopping" to not try and exterminate the Jews is a bad thing. Sometimes flopping is good.
 
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The rub here is that they don't actually believe they're making it up...nor basing their beliefs on little to no actual evidence.

the thing is, drumpf gives enough ammunition to sink a freighter, yet his followers have no issue with him flip-flopping or just flat out lying. no need to make anything up, just quote the drumpf
“An ‘extremely credible source’ has called my office and told me that Barack Obama’s birth certificate is a fraud
“You know, it really doesn’t matter what the media write as long as you’ve got a young, and beautiful, piece of ass.”
“I will build a great wall – and nobody builds walls better than me, believe me – and I’ll build them very inexpensively. I will build a great, great wall on our southern border, and I will make Mexico pay for that wall. Mark my words.”
“All of the women on The Apprentice flirted with me – consciously or unconsciously. That’s to be expected.”
“It’s freezing and snowing in New York – we need global warming!”
“I’ve said if Ivanka weren’t my daughter, perhaps I’d be dating her.”
“My fingers are long and beautiful, as, it has been well documented, are various other parts of my body.”
"Look at those hands, are they small hands? And, [Republican rival Marco Rubio] referred to my hands: 'If they're small, something else must be small.' I guarantee you there's no problem. I guarantee."

and that is just scratching the surface
 

buckshot24

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the thing is, drumpf gives enough ammunition to sink a freighter, yet his followers have no issue with him flip-flopping or just flat out lying. no need to make anything up, just quote the drumpf
“An ‘extremely credible source’ has called my office and told me that Barack Obama’s birth certificate is a fraud
“You know, it really doesn’t matter what the media write as long as you’ve got a young, and beautiful, piece of ass.”
“I will build a great wall – and nobody builds walls better than me, believe me – and I’ll build them very inexpensively. I will build a great, great wall on our southern border, and I will make Mexico pay for that wall. Mark my words.”
“All of the women on The Apprentice flirted with me – consciously or unconsciously. That’s to be expected.”
“It’s freezing and snowing in New York – we need global warming!”
“I’ve said if Ivanka weren’t my daughter, perhaps I’d be dating her.”
“My fingers are long and beautiful, as, it has been well documented, are various other parts of my body.”
"Look at those hands, are they small hands? And, [Republican rival Marco Rubio] referred to my hands: 'If they're small, something else must be small.' I guarantee you there's no problem. I guarantee."

and that is just scratching the surface
To be intellectually honest, do that with Hillary now.