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Hulk

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Since we already have the first Raptor Lake leak I'm thinking it should have it's own thread.
What do we know so far?
From Anandtech's Intel Process Roadmap articles from July:

Built on Intel 7 with upgraded FinFET
10-15% PPW (performance-per-watt)
Last non-tiled consumer CPU as Meteor Lake will be tiled

I'm guessing this will be a minor update to ADL with just a few microarchitecture changes to the cores. The larger change will be the new process refinement allowing 8+16 at the top of the stack.

Will it work with current z690 motherboards? If yes then that could be a major selling point for people to move to ADL rather than wait.
 
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If I were Pat, I would have instructed them to backport Arrow Lake to Intel 7++++ , just in case the ARL based desktop Core Ultra 9 on 20A misses the mark. They could fit the newer arch on the older process by taking out every non-essential thing and even go for something like 6P+12E without HT. It would be kinda meh in MT but it should theoretically be formidable in ST, at least compared to 14900KS if they are able to clock the backported ARL up to 6 GHz minimum.
NVM, HurlyBird already made the point about what a disaster Rocket Lake was.
 

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13900K
13900KS (overclock edition)
14900K (overclock of the overclock edition)
14900KS (overclock of the overclock of the overclock edition)

Or in Intel parlance...
13900K
13900K+
13900K++
13900K++

I'm sorry but anytime I can bring back the plusses I'm there.

Four releases for basically the same CPU. Intel is pushing the bar a little higher every time for Arrow Lake top bin performance. It might come back to bite them.
I dont see this as a problem, or at least it is the same problem for Zen 5. Hopefully ARL will at least be more efficient than 14900k, so if it only slightly improves performance, that would be a win. The real competition for ARL will be Zen 5. If Zen 5 cant beat 14900k, it too will be very disappointing product, but I am expecting that it will have no problem beating 149i00k.
 

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I dont see this as a problem, or at least it is the same problem for Zen 5. Hopefully ARL will at least be more efficient than 14900k, so if it only slightly improves performance, that would be a win. The real competition for ARL will be Zen 5. If Zen 5 cant beat 14900k, it too will be very disappointing product, but I am expecting that it will have no problem beating 149i00k.

It is what it is. I'm just having some fun with it.
As you can see in my sig I have a 13900K++
 
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Are you going to start calling Gracemont a poverty core, too?
It kinda is, isn't it?

Except Intel is charging OEMs a lot for it. Or is it the OEMs charging too much for N100/200/300 CPUs?

I've got a new laptop form factor in mind.

The 10 inch netbook with dual displays so students can be twice as productive!
 

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Anyone else see this? Apparently 13900K and 14900K have stability issues in Unreal. And it's RAD Game Tools, not a bunch of amatures.


The fastest ADL/RPL I have is only 4.9GHz so I shouldn't be at risk but it's weird to see a developer blame the hardware (well, BIOS configuration).
 
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If your gaming PC has crashed, giving an 'out of video memory' GPU message, and the system sports a Core i9 13th or 14th Gen processor, such as the Core i9 14900K, then the problem is possibly being caused by the CPU (despite the nature of the error). Certain i7 models, typically the unlocked K-versions, are also reportedly experiencing the problem, though to a lesser extent.
Very helpful error message :rolleyes:
 
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Raptor Lake Swan Song Core i9-14900KS reviews:






 
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Gavin should pay more attention.

Interestingly, since Intel abandoned the development of their Cryo cooling, EKWB picked up the slack and offers their EK-Quantum Delta TEC D-RGB solution, which should certainly prove better for taming the Core i9-14900KS than a conventional AIO CPU cooler. Using more aggressive cooling methods should prove effective in allowing users to hit the advertised 6.2 GHz core clock speeds for a sustained period of time. It's not easy to keep a processor cool while pulling 375 W, let alone keep it cooled for a prolonged period, so users must consider that.

Meanwhile, EK warns:

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So that Delta TEC block is nothing more than a glorified and very expensive gaming-only solution. And they don't exactly encourage multi-tasking.
 
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Thanks for the articles igor. I haven't been paying attention; there being 14 games supported by APO is news to me. There were only the initial 2 last time I looked? It may not be a lot, but it's quite an improvement. I thought perhaps it was a marketing stunt and would be something that in short order only Pepperidge Farms would remember. Good to see they continue to expend effort on the project.


Neat CPU for the small but hardcore hot rod crowd. Pointless for the rest of us.