Yes, i agree that its important to have win95/98 on the A+
I took the A+ and yes some of the questions are REDICULOUS.
but, alot of people use 95/98 still.
on another note, i recently took a survey from comptia on what was most important on the a+, it said something about updating the test.
I took the A+ and yes some of the questions are REDICULOUS.
but, alot of people use 95/98 still.
on another note, i recently took a survey from comptia on what was most important on the a+, it said something about updating the test.
I just reinstalled windows 98 today. Know that 98 is back up and running I could download winXP but why bother reinstalling everything because 98 is working. When windows 98 decided to crap out I couldn't burn a CD so I couldn't upgrade it just isn't worth the trouble to upgrade what makes windows XP so much better I should waste a few more hours installing OSes.
Ah, ok, so what you really mean is that CompTIA should develop workplace specific tests based only on what you encounter at your particular workplace. Hey that's reasonable, shouldn't require CompTIA to make more than 20 or 30 different tests, and your certification would be applicable only to your workplace.
Unfortuantely is still heavily deployed especically outside the US.
ROFL. I doubt you've ever run a tracert or ping program under DOS. This is an OS test you say?
Bill
ROFL. Michael, you completely missed my point. DOS is an operating system. A command shell is not.
Jokes aren't as funny when you have to explain them, but lets try anyway: See, it's funny since your complaining about an OS test and you don't understand the distinction between a command shell window and 'DOS'...
So, no, your welcome
Bill
JEDI
Lifer
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um..u should have went for ccna. cheaper than taking the a+/net+ combo, and you get more respect and a better chance at a job.
all you need for ccna is the small and thin ccna exam book by sybex, plus a router simulator. 40hrs studying, 20 hrs on test questions and 10 hrs on the simulator = pass for me
or take a microsoft exam and get your MCP. either one is better than A+
my $.02
PS- Win98/W2k/XP are all stable and great OS. it depends what you want to do. ie: my parents who only do Internet explorer and word, i installed W98 on their p2-400.
WinNT/95/ME are P.O.S!
all you need for ccna is the small and thin ccna exam book by sybex, plus a router simulator. 40hrs studying, 20 hrs on test questions and 10 hrs on the simulator = pass for me
or take a microsoft exam and get your MCP. either one is better than A+
my $.02
PS- Win98/W2k/XP are all stable and great OS. it depends what you want to do. ie: my parents who only do Internet explorer and word, i installed W98 on their p2-400.
WinNT/95/ME are P.O.S!
Where i work 60% of people are still on 95/98 (140 users or so). In the real world, 95/98 is widely in use.
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Originally posted by: bsobel
ROFL. Michael, you completely missed my point. DOS is an operating system. A command shell is not.
Jokes aren't as funny when you have to explain them, but lets try anyway: See, it's funny since your complaining about an OS test and you don't understand the distinction between a command shell window and 'DOS'...
So, no, your welcome
Bill
You never worded your statement correctly to begin with. I never said anything about running a tracert/ping PROGRAM from a DOS prompt. I am well aware that DOS is an operating system, thanks very much. Your condescending attitude seriously sucks.
AnyMal
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As an A+ instructor I can address some of your concerns.
1. Take a chill pill Seriously, Win 9x is still a viable operating system. Microsoft has threatend to stop support for Win 9x for years, yet they have not done so. Why? That's right, Win9x still dominates desktops worldwide. Every ealry realease of Windows had its share of problems. Win 95 did get it right only with OSR2, Windows 98 with Second Edition, Windows NT went through 6 Service Packs (plus sub-releases), Win 2k had 3 Service Packs released so far. Win XP had 64 updates/hotfixes in first year!
2. New version of A+ will be rolled-out in June.
3. As for the "certifications are worthless" I will have to disagree. I have seen my share of "certified" idiots and will agree that certification does not guarantee that someone is knowledgeble. However, look at it from the hiring managers perspective, if you were to consider two applicants for the same position with similar skills, only one of them is certified and the other one is not, guess who's going to get picked? Certifications DO make you markeatable, not smart, that's what i always told my students.
1. Take a chill pill
Seriously, Win 9x is still a viable operating system. Microsoft has threatend to stop support for Win 9x for years, yet they have not done so. Why? That's right, Win9x still dominates desktops worldwide. Every ealry realease of Windows had its share of problems. Win 95 did get it right only with OSR2, Windows 98 with Second Edition, Windows NT went through 6 Service Packs (plus sub-releases), Win 2k had 3 Service Packs released so far. Win XP had 64 updates/hotfixes in first year!2. New version of A+ will be rolled-out in June.
3. As for the "certifications are worthless" I will have to disagree. I have seen my share of "certified" idiots and will agree that certification does not guarantee that someone is knowledgeble. However, look at it from the hiring managers perspective, if you were to consider two applicants for the same position with similar skills, only one of them is certified and the other one is not, guess who's going to get picked? Certifications DO make you markeatable, not smart, that's what i always told my students.
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Originally posted by: AnyMal
As an A+ instructor I can address some of your concerns.
1. Take a chill pill
2. New version of A+ will be rolled-out in June.
3. As for the "certifications are worthless" I will have to disagree. I have seen my share of "certified" idiots and will agree that certification does not guarantee that someone is knowledgeble. However, look at it from the hiring managers perspective, if you were to consider two applicants for the same position with similar skills, only one of them is certified and the other one is not, guess who's going to get picked? Certifications DO make you markeatable, not smart, that's what i always told my students.
Thanks for the great reply, AndyMal. Unfortunately, I get to take the "old test." I had no idea that Win98 was still out there so much. All the systems I've seen (at work and at home) for the past four years are either NT or W2K.
AFA the worth of the cert; it's worth something to ME. I am currently employed and not looking for a job, thank God. By the time I will start looking for another job, I'll have all those other certs under my belt, so I'll be fine. I figured I'd start with an "easier one." At least I've got the hardware part nailed...now I have 48 hours to relearn two OSes.
You exact quote is "IMHO, DOS is still important. You can't TRACERT or PING without DOS". My statement was worded fine, I simply pointed out that you've probably never actually run tracert or ping under DOS. You responded trying to suggest that a 'command shell' is 'DOS'. Not a big deal, people make that mistake a zillion times a day in posts. But since your complaining about an OS test, it seemed you should understand the difference between the two.
What I don't get is your response "I never said anything about running a tracert/ping PROGRAM from a DOS prompt" right after posting "You can't TRACERT or PING without DOS". If your going to claim you never said something, it's polite to at least edit it out of your prior post
Bill
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Originally posted by: bsobel
You exact quote is "IMHO, DOS is still important. You can't TRACERT or PING without DOS". My statement was worded fine, I simply pointed out that you've probably never actually run tracert or ping under DOS. You responded trying to suggest that a 'command shell' is 'DOS'. Not a big deal, people make that mistake a zillion times a day in posts. But since your complaining about an OS test, it seemed you should understand the difference between the two.
What I don't get is your response "I never said anything about running a tracert/ping PROGRAM from a DOS prompt" right after posting "You can't TRACERT or PING without DOS". If your going to claim you never said something, it's polite to at least edit it out of your prior post
Bill
Argh. What I meant was "you can't run TRACERT or PING with out DOS...meaning the DOS command prompt. Whatever...six of one half dozen of the other....my head is hurting from this stupid test....
Cerb
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I don't know about OS, but here's something from a hardware one that I figure has been fixed :
Which is not an AMD processor:
a K5
b K6
c K7
d K8
I personally would skip A+ unless a job I wanted needed it. I've helped two people study for them, and there's too much that is utterly useless. Like IBM XT error codes. And the crap about a laser printer. More, but that's what I remember. In additon, one that really irked me on a practice test, was what to do if a client's mobo had a faulty IDE controller. Answer? No, not replace the mobo, but get a separate controller card...yeach, like the southbridge won't be totally f****d soon :disgust:
Just take it and get it over with.
:Which is not an AMD processor:
a K5
b K6
c K7
d K8
I personally would skip A+ unless a job I wanted needed it. I've helped two people study for them, and there's too much that is utterly useless. Like IBM XT error codes. And the crap about a laser printer. More, but that's what I remember. In additon, one that really irked me on a practice test, was what to do if a client's mobo had a faulty IDE controller. Answer? No, not replace the mobo, but get a separate controller card...yeach, like the southbridge won't be totally f****d soon :disgust:
Just take it and get it over with.
I know what you meant, but your actually mixing terminology. Your refering to running tools from the command line interface. It's not six of one, 1/2 dozen of the other. As those utilities are win32 applications (presuming 2k/xp/9x) not dos applications. Dropping thread now, you seem stressed enough tonight
Bill
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Originally posted by: bsobel
I know what you meant, but your actually mixing terminology. Your refering to running tools from the command line interface. It's not six of one, 1/2 dozen of the other. As those utilities are win32 applications (presuming 2k/xp/9x) not dos applications. Dropping thread now, you seem stressed enough tonight
Bill
Yes, I am...very...lot on my small mind and my melon's about to pop. Didn't mean to be mean....hey that's funny...mean to be mean. Ah, the English language! 'Nite.
AnyMal
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No prob Michael. While I can not get into details fo the test, I can tell you that as long as you are comfortable with Windows 98 don't worry about 95. In other words, don't expect questions like "how does so-and-so differs in Win 98 from Win 95" Just know the basics, like Control Panel applets and what they do, especially Add/Delete programs and hardware, how to create boot disk in Win 95/98 (Open Control Panel>Add/Remove Programs/Choose Startup Tab), know the difference between Ipconfig versus Winipcfg. Know what regedit is and how it differs from regedt32, know about user.dat and system.dat The only Win 95 specific questions that may pop-up will relate to something that Win 95 had pioneered, like being the 32bit OS, PlugnPlay, USB support in OSR2, FAT32 in OSR2 with support for partitions up to 2 terrabytes (versus FAT/FAT 16 2.1Gigabyte) I recommend a cram book from Mike Myers, students seem to have a pretty high opinion of it.
JetBlack69
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Originally posted by: MichaelD
[rant]
For cryin' out cotton-pickin' loud, why the HELL do they ask so many questions about Windows95 and Windows98 on the A+OS test?
I am taking the test this Wednesday and bought the study guide (exam cram) yesterday. The Hardware part I've got nailed.
The OS part? Half the %(*&!!* book is about Win95/98! Who give a damn about them?
I mean, how many freakin' people are still using Windows95 worldwide? Two, maybe?
I have yet to see a BUSINESS out in the real corporate world that runs anything but NT or W2K in the past four years, at least.
They ask all kinds of questions about recovery floppies for Win95...I got news for 'ya; if YOUR PC that runs Windows95 or 98 crashes, know how I'm gonna help your sorry @ss?
I'm gonna WIPE your drive and put W2K Professional on there and that will solve 100% of you problems, you pathetic little weenie man. If you run Windows95, you obviously live at home. And are 35 years old. If you run Windows98, you have been locked inside since 1998 with no radio or TV...or oxygen, apparently. :disgust:
My mother is 71 years old and even SHE knows that Windows 95 and 98 suck.
Why do I need to know the Hexadecimal address of the config.sys file for Windows98? How is that going to help me? This sucks. I am going to have to memorize a lot of useless info that I'm only going to have to brain dump 2 seconds after I pass the test.
How pathetic. Thanks for listening.
[/rant]
I have Win98 on my office 'puter. If you were to wipe it and install Win2K or XP, one of my programs that is REQUIRED for work would cease functioning resulting in global havoc and chaos throughout the industrialized world.
Our IT department is beta testing a Win2K-compatible version of that program right now. But until then, I'm stuck.
My sister in law, a dentist, uses Win95 in her office. Damn piece of crap computers are always giving her problems.
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