RANT: Why do people have kids when they can't afford them?

[RESmonkey]

To spread DNA.

 

[40sTheme]

Because they want to have kids or they just screw too much.
"I don't fuck around, simple as that." - Kurt Vonnegut, Timequake

 

[glenn1]

So two of my friends got married a year and a half ago, and already have their second kid on the way.

They are broke.

Really broke.

I wouldn't feel too superior - once/if you have children, you'll be broke also, regardless of how much money you make. Your s.o. and bottomless pit spawn will assure that. You won't ever have kids if you wait until you're ready for them, whether financially or any other way.

 

[Throckmorton]

Originally posted by: IGBT
..tax code and free education encourage it. get rid of dependent deduction and free education..home mortage deduction.. along with social welfare that increases with child birth. The era of the unsettled continent is over. The US is a settled continent with massive energy and water problems. All your little darlings are only adding to the problem.

I'm all for getting rid of tax credits for having children, but are you serious about free education?? Free public education is the foundation of a free society.

 

[altonb1]

My wife and I have 5 kids. She was on the pill for 3 of them, but I had Super Swimmers!

In any case, can I afford my kids? Not really...but I manage. My wife is a stay-at-home mom and I work full-time. It's not about affording the kids...it's about prioritizing for them. Do I want a new car? Of course. Am I getting one anytime soon? Nope.

We manage. And if the couple described in the rant have any self-respect, they will, also.

 

[GTaudiophile]

Because people think of their own mortality...and children are the only way that one can partly at least remain immortal.

Selfish in a way, yes.

 

[imported_Tick]

Originally posted by: altonb1
My wife and I have 5 kids. She was on the pill for 3 of them, but I had Super Swimmers!

In any case, can I afford my kids? Not really...but I manage. My wife is a stay-at-home mom and I work full-time. It's not about affording the kids...it's about prioritizing for them. Do I want a new car? Of course. Am I getting one anytime soon? Nope.

We manage. And if the couple described in the rant have any self-respect, they will, also.

You are increasing the population. I hope you're happy.

 

[manlymatt83]

Originally posted by: Jeff7

Originally posted by: XZeroII
It's funny how some of you get so riled up over this, yet 90% of the men in this forum would stick it in a random hole in the wall if their buddies dared them after a few drinks. Do you want to know why...it's because YOU ARE STUPID. Yes...I'm talking specifically to the person reading this.

I don't drink.
I don't go out with people who do.
No, I wouldn't stick it in a box. I would not stick it in a fox. She would not eat it....you know what, Dr Seuss just wasn't meant for this sort of thing.

Yay, I'm 90th percentile material again!

 

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: ZeroIQ

Originally posted by: Fmr12B

Originally posted by: yamadakun
the government will support them.

My tax dollars will support them


When did personal responsibility become such a hard concept!

A generation ago.

goddamned baby boomers

 

[dquan97]

Someone told me that you can never really afford to have kids...and boy, are they right!

 

[Wreckem]

Originally posted by: waggy
there maybe many factors why they do.

many poor really can't afford birth control (well they can. they just spend the money on other worthless things).

they are religious. many hard core religious people think it is there duty to have kids.

many just do not give a shit. more kids=more welfare.

Contraceptive is now $8/month..

 

[SlickSnake]

Originally posted by: Gooberlx2

Originally posted by: SlickSnake
This is why some giant corporate monopoly (does it really matter which one?) has patented the human genome, and the US patent office was stupid enough to grant them one on it. Mother nature made the human genome (or God/E.T.) and to grant it to a money making beast is completely outrageous.

I had a good link of the legal implications on this matter, but could not find it off hand. They actually will now be able to regulate human birth based on this patent whenever they choose to start doing so. To have a child in the future and not pay them some kind of fee and/or have a contract allowing you to have a child is now a crime.

If I stumble upon the link again, I will repost it here.

Ugh what the hell are you on about? You obviously don't know anything about patents, who they're granted to or why a company might want one.

Oh really? You think I would post something that I had not read else where first? This was the most recent link I read on this subject. But if you google it, you can find loads more on this topic. You might not want to believe this, your choice, but I am not lying about reading it or the implications of it.

All your human genome are belong to US.

 

[Xavier434]

Originally posted by: altonb1
My wife and I have 5 kids. She was on the pill for 3 of them, but I had Super Swimmers!

In any case, can I afford my kids? Not really...but I manage. My wife is a stay-at-home mom and I work full-time. It's not about affording the kids...it's about prioritizing for them. Do I want a new car? Of course. Am I getting one anytime soon? Nope.

We manage. And if the couple described in the rant have any self-respect, they will, also.

More power to you man. Seriously, a lot of people give in to the temptations which stray away from prioritizing their kids financially which accounts for a lot of the problems. Keep it up!

:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

 

[Casawi]

Accidents. I don't know, nothing wrong with living poor. When they say someone doesn't have money in the states, it is almost a lie

 

[digiram]

Originally posted by: hanoverphist
i love how everyone jumped on the "the gov't will support them with your tax dollarz!" bandwagon. the OP doesnt mention welfare or gov't assistance, why are you assuming they are on it? i have 3 kids, and life was tough when they were younger. they were also my motivation to go to college and get a real job, but at no time were they ever fed with gov't cheese or coupons. we were flat broke too. i also didnt have a computer, ipod, cell phone or any of the toys i enjoy now. i did have reliable transpo tho, that is a must.

Thank you!!!

I'm in a similar situation now. I've got 2 small ones that I love with all my life, but I'm flat out broke. I don't depend on any gov't assistance, have a job, and a college degree. My wife stays at home for now, and I make enough to provide shelter, food, and transportation. We do get much support from our families, however. The only form of gov't assistance I get is the tax relief at the end of the year.

 

[rivan]

Originally posted by: mjuszczak
They are broke.

A) Some people will complain, no matter what their situation is.
B) Some people don't think their situation through before popping kids out.
C) Unless you're crapping on gold plated toilets, kids are damned expensive, especially if you have to pay for day care.


My wife and I together make a pretty good living (we're paupers, of course, to the average $250k/year ATOTer). We live in a nice house in an old neighborhood - not beyond our means. Now that we've got a second kid, we're having to really pay close attention to our budgets - something neither of us has needed to do before.

I complain about that, and about how expensive my kids' daycare is. Combined, their daycare is roughly equal to the P&I on our mortgage. That cost will go down ? then away ? over the next five years, but that doesn't mean it's not a bitch right now.

 

[DaShen]

Originally posted by: ucdbiendog

Originally posted by: Ryan
I tell ya, I remember a time when I was about... I was little, I don't know... 4, 5 something like that. We had this old dog that had a litter of puppies. And I walked in the bathroom one day and my Mother was standing there, kneeling down... Dog had a litter of about 8, and my Mother was bending over killing each one of these little puppies in the bathtub. I remember I said 'why?'... She said 'Im just killing what I can't take care of' - Then my momma said to me, she looked at me and she said 'I wish I could do that to you'. - Maybe she, maybe she shoulda.

hahahaah

btw terrible rant OP

Ummmm... Ryan, you can't be serious. I hope this is a joke that I am not getting.

 

[DaShen]

Agreed. Why bring a kid into the world if you can't provide them with every opportunity to be great that they can get.

 

[rh71]

since you made me think about it... it reminds me of certain people too who usually have lots of kids but aren't exactly comfortably living. Can they not "afford" birth control methods? I don't know why...

 

[SlickSnake]

Originally posted by: DaShen

Originally posted by: ucdbiendog

Originally posted by: Ryan
I tell ya, I remember a time when I was about... I was little, I don't know... 4, 5 something like that. We had this old dog that had a litter of puppies. And I walked in the bathroom one day and my Mother was standing there, kneeling down... Dog had a litter of about 8, and my Mother was bending over killing each one of these little puppies in the bathtub. I remember I said 'why?'... She said 'Im just killing what I can't take care of' - Then my momma said to me, she looked at me and she said 'I wish I could do that to you'. - Maybe she, maybe she shoulda.

hahahaah

btw terrible rant OP

Ummmm... Ryan, you can't be serious. I hope this is a joke that I am not getting.

I have read that before, I call SHENS on that post. =P

 

[Homerboy]

Wait... are your friends happy with their choices? Are the kids healthy and happy? Fed well and educated? I mean define "not much money" and "complain a lot"

Do they not have money to feed or clothe the kids? Do they complain they don't have a 60" plasma? Or do they complain they can't pay the gas bill with winter on its way?

There's a big difference there.

 

[compman25]

So are you this mad at your parents too!

 

[FoBoT]

did i mention they could learn to live within their means and still take care of their kid(s)?