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<RANT> i bought a new athlon 950.... </RANT>

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Ameesh...the 4-in-1's increase performance and stability of most via chipsets (yay). What I would recommend when installing an amd chip and via motherboard:

1) Format system (of course)
2) Reinstall windows only
3) Install via 4-in-1's
4) Install all other drivers
5) Marvel at the stability and performance of your new chip
 


<< i like my sb live 5.1, regardless of what you think of it it is still the most popular sound card on the market, hands down there maybe a hundred better cards but if you dont support the sblive your screwing a bunch of people. (probably >50%) >>



I'm not disagreeing with you that the SB Live is THE most popular card, but it's one of the most incompatible pieces of hardware ever made! The first thing i always see people say in General Hardware when fixing hardware conflicts is, &quot;Do you have an Sb Live!?&quot; Nine times out of ten that's the case, and is the source of the problem. I'm just saying, regardless of its popularity, it's a total POS. Lots of other soundcards with less noise, lower signal to noise ratio, and better digital support. The SB Live's cheap imitation digital sound with their 'spdif' connection is pathetic.

dm
 


<< why don't u switch the Live to your dell P4 and the TB to your AMD system. Prolbem solved >>



already done, the live is working great on winxp.
 
Gentlepeople, I believe we were discussing slashdot. No need to talk about anything athlon related here.



<< pinkos! the whole lot of them! >>


oh yeah???? I don't buy it for one munute !
 


<<

<< i like my sb live 5.1, regardless of what you think of it it is still the most popular sound card on the market, hands down there maybe a hundred better cards but if you dont support the sblive your screwing a bunch of people. (probably >50%) >>



I'm not disagreeing with you that the SB Live is THE most popular card, but it's one of the most incompatible pieces of hardware ever made! The first thing i always see people say in General Hardware when fixing hardware conflicts is, &quot;Do you have an Sb Live!?&quot; Nine times out of ten that's the case, and is the source of the problem. I'm just saying, regardless of its popularity, it's a total POS. Lots of other soundcards with less noise, lower signal to noise ratio, and better digital support. The SB Live's cheap imitation digital sound with their 'spdif' connection is pathetic.

dm >>




arent you the kmart guy? .....
 


<< arent you the kmart guy >>



Yup, i'm the one who you said should be cleaning toilets, simply because I was frustrated with my inability to get any help with a product I was looking for.

dm
 
Er. Ok. MUST be the chipset. Couldn't be, oh say, a bad:

Video Card.
RAM.
Sound card.
NIC.
Modem.
Hard drive.
Floppy drive.
Power supply.
ATA/66 cable.
Floppy drive cable.
Bad CPU.
Insufficient cooling.
User.

Motherboard != Chipset. Chipset != Motherboard. Motherboard != CPU. CPU != Motherboard. Chipset != CPU. CPU != Chipset. Got it? Good. Understand? Good. Read it again anyway.

You bought.. A Dell P4? I'm guessing it's a Dimension 8100? What a rotten piece of crap. Want to know a fun bug with that system? Dell OEM Logitech USB mouse (black) causes (used to? It's been 6 months now... Maybe they acknowledged the bug I alerted Austin to) Windows to hang on load for 8 MINUTES. Disconnect the mouse, no problem. Replace with a PS/2 mouse, no problem. Plug the USB Logitech back in, problem.

Then there's the Dimension 4100, based on the Intel 815 chipset. Seagate hard drives weren't detected during a cold boot. Dell's answer to this Intel issue? BIOS update that warmboots the system during POST after a cold boot. That's right. The answer to that issue was to have the BIOS reboot.

Then there's the Intel 820+SDRAM fun. Dell didn't face that one, but a lot of others did.

Yeah. Great Intel chipsets and processors. You'd think someone would have TESTED the piles of crap before it went out the door.

I'm not trying to say Intel Bad, AMD Good. I'm just trying to point out both parties have their issues.

Rendus, who had entirely too many dealings with the Dell Dimension line of computers, and Dell internal who denies compatibility issues because Big Daddy Intel tells them there aren't any.
 


<< if you trying to impress me your way off, i have had my (very active) servers up for months it was domain server as well as a file server and web server 24 days is pocket change.


btw if thats a dev box thats a load of crap. >>



ok, well, remind me in six months and I'll post the uptime again then, but seriously, I do have to reboot ocasionally for software updates and hardware changes. I thoguh that 24 days would be enough to convince you that at least in my case, the hardware is running properly, I'm not trying to set a record for longest uptime.
 
If you bought a board ment for the processor then mabey it will work without any problems, when buying stuff for amd cpu, check amds picks on things look at their site and see what they recoomend last time i looked it was an MSI board.
 
Umm, so what exactly did you do? Fresh install of Windows? Install the VIA 4in1's(BTW, they are drivers. Same kind of drivers that *any* mobo uses)? Live in which PCI slot?(try slot 3)

 
My athlon slot A 950's work ok. I use m7mke mob. Built 3 of em. Going to do a linux box next using similar config. Still scrounging for parts. 🙂

<< zippidy duda >>

 
sblive sucks. it gets owned by the herc gtxp. and cheaper than the plat. i have both, and even got the hoontech addons, herc still sounds better.

booty GTXP
 
Why is it that people always have problems with odd setups? I've had one of the most f'ed up setups imaginable and managed to make it somewhat stable.

Asus P5A
500K6-2
128MB PC133 CAS-3 Crucial
Diamond V770
STB TVPCI
Adaptec 2940W
Linksys EtherPCI
Creative Dxr2 decoder card
Soundblaster AWE64
Rockwell based HARDWARE voice modem
IBM 34GXP 20GB
Seagate Barracuda 2GB (50 pin)
CL 2x DVD (IDE)
Smart and Friendly CD-r (2x6x, 50 pin)
Plextor 40max (50 pin)
Paralell port zip drive
Epson Stylus Color 400
HP 6 pen serial plotter

If I can get that SOB stable (it's been transmogrified greatly since) anything can be made stable. When I moved to an Athlon setup I found it to be CAKE and as easy as any Intel setup that I ever used.
 
I have a Duron 800 running at 1035 on an Asus A7V133 motherboard. It's been one of THE most stable machines I've had. Just as stable as my last Intel setup (Abit BH6 + Celeron 300a@464).

I also built and Athlon 700 + Abit KA7 for a friend with an SBLive. It's been running flawlessly as well. (This is by no means a plug for SBLive sound cards. I have/will never buy one! 😉)

The 4-in-1 drivers install files that let Windows recognize and use the chipset &amp; components correctly.

amish
 
the parts other than the motherboard and chip worked fine in the old computer that they were in.






<< Er. Ok. MUST be the chipset. Couldn't be, oh say, a bad:

Video Card.
RAM.
Sound card.
NIC.
Modem.
Hard drive.
Floppy drive.
Power supply.
ATA/66 cable.
Floppy drive cable.
Bad CPU.
Insufficient cooling.
User.

Motherboard != Chipset. Chipset != Motherboard. Motherboard != CPU. CPU != Motherboard. Chipset != CPU. CPU != Chipset. Got it? Good. Understand? Good. Read it again anyway.

You bought.. A Dell P4? I'm guessing it's a Dimension 8100? What a rotten piece of crap. Want to know a fun bug with that system? Dell OEM Logitech USB mouse (black) causes (used to? It's been 6 months now... Maybe they acknowledged the bug I alerted Austin to) Windows to hang on load for 8 MINUTES. Disconnect the mouse, no problem. Replace with a PS/2 mouse, no problem. Plug the USB Logitech back in, problem.

Then there's the Dimension 4100, based on the Intel 815 chipset. Seagate hard drives weren't detected during a cold boot. Dell's answer to this Intel issue? BIOS update that warmboots the system during POST after a cold boot. That's right. The answer to that issue was to have the BIOS reboot.

Then there's the Intel 820+SDRAM fun. Dell didn't face that one, but a lot of others did.

Yeah. Great Intel chipsets and processors. You'd think someone would have TESTED the piles of crap before it went out the door.

I'm not trying to say Intel Bad, AMD Good. I'm just trying to point out both parties have their issues.

Rendus, who had entirely too many dealings with the Dell Dimension line of computers, and Dell internal who denies compatibility issues because Big Daddy Intel tells them there aren't any. >>

 
looks like these 4-1 drivers are the thing i need, do you gys know whether they work with winxp? or if you need them with winxp?





<< I have a Duron 800 running at 1035 on an Asus A7V133 motherboard. It's been one of THE most stable machines I've had. Just as stable as my last Intel setup (Abit BH6 + Celeron 300a@464).

I also built and Athlon 700 + Abit KA7 for a friend with an SBLive. It's been running flawlessly as well. (This is by no means a plug for SBLive sound cards. I have/will never buy one! 😉)

The 4-in-1 drivers install files that let Windows recognize and use the chipset &amp; components correctly.

amish >>

 
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