rant by a lady who isn't too impressed with metrosexuals

[Zysoclaplem]

Originally posted by: 91TTZ

Originally posted by: Zysoclaplem

Let me dispel a couple of myths:

Myth 1: Body hair.

If you shave your hair off your arms, legs, chest, ass, etc...that doesn't mean you want your skin to look or feel like a womans. It could mean that you don't like body hair, or feel that is is unnecessary.

Myth 2: Being a man.

Being metro makes you less of a man, right? Wrong. A man is the male of the human species. Do you know what the difference is between a man and a woman? That's right, a man has a penis, and a woman has a vagina and breasts.
So therefor, if you have a penis, but shave your chest, you are still as much as a man as someone who doesn't shave his chest, because you have a penis.

Myth 3: What a woman wants.

Women don't like guys who shave their legs and arms and chests and nether regions. Women want men that are all natural, body hair and all. Wrong again.
I know plenty of girls who like men who take care of themselves and keep things nice and trimmed. Men who are self aware, and in touch with themselves. And I don't mean by scratching their asses every 5 minutes.

It's nice to see that you can imitate my post. From reading your replies, it's evident that you're not anything that could be mistaken for a manly man. That's abundantly clear. You are definitely part of generation that must go against the grain to "express yourself". Everything you write hints at naivety and inexperience, inferiority, and a boy always on the defensive.

Do you even have a girlfriend? How long do your relationships last? One thing's for certain- you're in touch withyourself all right. In touch with yourself every morning because you can't find a woman who likes a guy that acts like a spineless wimp. You're a pushover. I bet in social situations you are always on the defensive, afraid of more physically dominant males. Thus you must find an identity.

Like I told you before, times are changing. People are changing. What was "going against the grain", is now going with it. And that seems to upset you, but not for the reasons you want everyone else to believe. You keep asking questions about me, like the problem is me. But that's not the problem, is it? "Manly men" are secure with themselves, and should show no interest in what other guys do, because it wouldn't matter to "manly man". But you, you show alot of interest and feigned disgust.
I am very comfortable with myself, and don't need to resort to name-calling or any other type of derogatory comments to overcompensate for any insecure feelings I have.

 

[91TTZ]

Originally posted by: Zysoclaplem

Originally posted by: 91TTZ

Originally posted by: Zysoclaplem

Let me dispel a couple of myths:

Myth 1: Body hair.

If you shave your hair off your arms, legs, chest, ass, etc...that doesn't mean you want your skin to look or feel like a womans. It could mean that you don't like body hair, or feel that is is unnecessary.

Myth 2: Being a man.

Being metro makes you less of a man, right? Wrong. A man is the male of the human species. Do you know what the difference is between a man and a woman? That's right, a man has a penis, and a woman has a vagina and breasts.
So therefor, if you have a penis, but shave your chest, you are still as much as a man as someone who doesn't shave his chest, because you have a penis.

Myth 3: What a woman wants.

Women don't like guys who shave their legs and arms and chests and nether regions. Women want men that are all natural, body hair and all. Wrong again.
I know plenty of girls who like men who take care of themselves and keep things nice and trimmed. Men who are self aware, and in touch with themselves. And I don't mean by scratching their asses every 5 minutes.

It's nice to see that you can imitate my post. From reading your replies, it's evident that you're not anything that could be mistaken for a manly man. That's abundantly clear. You are definitely part of generation that must go against the grain to "express yourself". Everything you write hints at naivety and inexperience, inferiority, and a boy always on the defensive.

Do you even have a girlfriend? How long do your relationships last? One thing's for certain- you're in touch withyourself all right. In touch with yourself every morning because you can't find a woman who likes a guy that acts like a spineless wimp. You're a pushover. I bet in social situations you are always on the defensive, afraid of more physically dominant males. Thus you must find an identity.

Like I told you before, times are changing. People are changing. What was "going against the grain", is now going with it. And that seems to upset you, but not for the reasons you want everyone else to believe. You keep asking questions about me, like the problem is me. But that's not the problem, is it? "Manly men" are secure with themselves, and should show no interest in what other guys do, because it wouldn't matter to "manly man". But you, you show alot of interest and feigned disgust.
I am very comfortable with myself, and don't need to resort to name-calling or any other type of derogatory comments to overcompensate for any insecure feelings I have.

Do not dodge the question. I asked you if you have a girlfriend and how long your relationships last. You claim to know so much about what women want, now I want to hear about the results.

I'm willing to bet that you aren't very desirable to women and you can't figure out why, especially since you're following the latest fad.

 

[Zysoclaplem]

Originally posted by: 91TTZ

Originally posted by: Zysoclaplem

Originally posted by: 91TTZ

Originally posted by: Zysoclaplem

Let me dispel a couple of myths:

Myth 1: Body hair.

If you shave your hair off your arms, legs, chest, ass, etc...that doesn't mean you want your skin to look or feel like a womans. It could mean that you don't like body hair, or feel that is is unnecessary.

Myth 2: Being a man.

Being metro makes you less of a man, right? Wrong. A man is the male of the human species. Do you know what the difference is between a man and a woman? That's right, a man has a penis, and a woman has a vagina and breasts.
So therefor, if you have a penis, but shave your chest, you are still as much as a man as someone who doesn't shave his chest, because you have a penis.

Myth 3: What a woman wants.

Women don't like guys who shave their legs and arms and chests and nether regions. Women want men that are all natural, body hair and all. Wrong again.
I know plenty of girls who like men who take care of themselves and keep things nice and trimmed. Men who are self aware, and in touch with themselves. And I don't mean by scratching their asses every 5 minutes.

It's nice to see that you can imitate my post. From reading your replies, it's evident that you're not anything that could be mistaken for a manly man. That's abundantly clear. You are definitely part of generation that must go against the grain to "express yourself". Everything you write hints at naivety and inexperience, inferiority, and a boy always on the defensive.

Do you even have a girlfriend? How long do your relationships last? One thing's for certain- you're in touch withyourself all right. In touch with yourself every morning because you can't find a woman who likes a guy that acts like a spineless wimp. You're a pushover. I bet in social situations you are always on the defensive, afraid of more physically dominant males. Thus you must find an identity.

Like I told you before, times are changing. People are changing. What was "going against the grain", is now going with it. And that seems to upset you, but not for the reasons you want everyone else to believe. You keep asking questions about me, like the problem is me. But that's not the problem, is it? "Manly men" are secure with themselves, and should show no interest in what other guys do, because it wouldn't matter to "manly man". But you, you show alot of interest and feigned disgust.
I am very comfortable with myself, and don't need to resort to name-calling or any other type of derogatory comments to overcompensate for any insecure feelings I have.

Do not dodge the question. I asked you if you have a girlfriend and how long your relationships last. You claim to know so much about what women want, now I want to hear about the results.

I'm willing to bet that you aren't very desirable to women and you can't figure out why, especially since you're following the latest fad.

No, I do not have a girlfriend, and never have had one. My last relationship lasted over 3 years.
I'm not a metrosexual, and I am gay. But in being gay, I find men attractive, and I talk to alot of girls about other hot guys.
On the otherhand, I'm guessing you are straight, and find girls to be attractive, but not guys, right?

 

[jagec]

Originally posted by: Zysoclaplem
No, I do not have a girlfriend, and never have had one. My last relationship lasted over 3 years.
I'm not a metrosexual, and I am gay. But in being gay, I find men attractive, and I talk to alot of girls about other hot guys.
On the otherhand, I'm guessing you are straight, and find girls to be attractive, but not guys, right?

What people say is not the same as what people do.

Besides, if a girl was with a gay guy who was pointing out the "cute" metros, why would she act disagreeable and say "I find that nasty, I prefer a real man?" Quick way to lose your friends IMHO.

 

[mordantmonkey]

Originally posted by: Zysoclaplem
No, I do not have a girlfriend, and never have had one. My last relationship lasted over 3 years.
I'm not a metrosexual, and I am gay. But in being gay, I find men attractive, and I talk to alot of girls about other hot guys.
On the otherhand, I'm guessing you are straight, and find girls to be attractive, but not guys, right?

it's true. girls, especially hot girls, talk to their gay boyfriends about who they think is hot.
on another note, didn't metrosexuals just used to be called "prettyboys"? they've always gotten hot women..or been gay. but then any good-looking gay guy that decides he wants to sleep with a girl, will have no problem with that either.

 

[StageLeft]

Nice. I personally hate them.

 

[Zysoclaplem]

Originally posted by: jagec

Originally posted by: Zysoclaplem
No, I do not have a girlfriend, and never have had one. My last relationship lasted over 3 years.
I'm not a metrosexual, and I am gay. But in being gay, I find men attractive, and I talk to alot of girls about other hot guys.
On the otherhand, I'm guessing you are straight, and find girls to be attractive, but not guys, right?

What people say is not the same as what people do.

Besides, if a girl was with a gay guy who was pointing out the "cute" metros, why would she act disagreeable and say "I find that nasty, I prefer a real man?" Quick way to lose your friends IMHO.

I'm not saying, in any way, that all girls prefer one certain type of guy.
But I think I know what is attractive about a guy, and it's not a hairy belly or smelling like Old Spice.
And my definition of what is metro, and what is not metro, are different than 91TTZs.
My arguement is, being metro, being gay, being whatever, does not make you less of a man. Nor does it make you weak and skinny. Nor does it affect acne. It doesn't make you a fairy, other anything like that.
I don't classify guys I like or look at as metro, or non-metro.
91TTZ has a problem with himself, and puts down a certain type of person to compensate for that feeling.

 

[spidey07]

deep down a woman wants a leader, a provider and a protector. ie a man.

Metros have none of those qualities. They're just the guys that got picked on in school. They're pansies...wussies. As evidenced by the woman's rant.

 

[Zysoclaplem]

Originally posted by: spidey07
deep down a woman wants a leader, a provider and a protector. ie a man.

Metros have none of those qualities. They're just the guys that got picked on in school. They're pansies...wussies.

They are clean, successful, strong, smell good, dress nice, smart, fun, and good providers.
They know what they want in life, and won't let anyone stand in their way.

 

[jagec]

Originally posted by: Zysoclaplem

Originally posted by: spidey07
deep down a woman wants a leader, a provider and a protector. ie a man.

Metros have none of those qualities. They're just the guys that got picked on in school. They're pansies...wussies.

They are clean, successful, strong, smell good, dress nice, smart, fun, and good providers.
They know what they want in life, and won't let anyone stand in their way.

wow, will the massive generalizations never stop?

 

[GasX]

Originally posted by: Zysoclaplem

Originally posted by: spidey07
deep down a woman wants a leader, a provider and a protector. ie a man.

Metros have none of those qualities. They're just the guys that got picked on in school. They're pansies...wussies.

They are clean, effeminate, smell like cheap whores, prissily dressed, self-absorbed, hairless, and good providers (with what is left over after the Express for men shopping sprees).
They know what they want in life, and won't let anyone rain on their repressed gay parade.

fixed

 

[Zysoclaplem]

Originally posted by: jagec

Originally posted by: Zysoclaplem

Originally posted by: spidey07
deep down a woman wants a leader, a provider and a protector. ie a man.

Metros have none of those qualities. They're just the guys that got picked on in school. They're pansies...wussies.

They are clean, successful, strong, smell good, dress nice, smart, fun, and good providers.
They know what they want in life, and won't let anyone stand in their way.

wow, will the massive generalizations never stop?

I guess not, because I have seen nothing but derogatory generalizations throughout this entire thread.

 

[spidey07]

Originally posted by: Zysoclaplem

Originally posted by: spidey07
deep down a woman wants a leader, a provider and a protector. ie a man.

Metros have none of those qualities. They're just the guys that got picked on in school. They're pansies...wussies.

They are clean, successful, strong, smell good, dress nice, smart, fun, and good providers.
They know what they want in life, and won't let anyone stand in their way.

nah, they just don't know if they like girls is all. just confused.

we had a friend like this. always dressed real nice, talked about fashion and how he primps. After a while we just up and asked him "dude, are you gay?"

He got a little upset, but we honestly thought he was.

 

[Zysoclaplem]

Originally posted by: Mwilding

Originally posted by: Zysoclaplem

Originally posted by: spidey07
deep down a woman wants a leader, a provider and a protector. ie a man.

Metros have none of those qualities. They're just the guys that got picked on in school. They're pansies...wussies.

They are clean, successful, strong, smell good, dress nice, smart, fun, and good providers.
They know what they want in life, and won't let anyone stand in their way.

I'm insecure about myself.

Fixed again.

 

[GasX]

Originally posted by: Zysoclaplem

Originally posted by: Mwilding

Originally posted by: Zysoclaplem

Originally posted by: spidey07
deep down a woman wants a leader, a provider and a protector. ie a man.

Metros have none of those qualities. They're just the guys that got picked on in school. They're pansies...wussies.

They are clean, successful, strong, smell good, dress nice, smart, fun, and good providers.
They know what they want in life, and won't let anyone stand in their way.

I'm insecure about myself.

Fixed again.

Man, your buttons are SOOOOOOOOOOOOOO easy to push...

 

[Zysoclaplem]

Originally posted by: Mwilding

Originally posted by: Zysoclaplem

Originally posted by: Mwilding

Originally posted by: Zysoclaplem

Originally posted by: spidey07
deep down a woman wants a leader, a provider and a protector. ie a man.

Metros have none of those qualities. They're just the guys that got picked on in school. They're pansies...wussies.

They are clean, successful, strong, smell good, dress nice, smart, fun, and good providers.
They know what they want in life, and won't let anyone stand in their way.

I'm insecure about myself.

Fixed again.

Man, your buttons are SOOOOOOOOOOOOOO easy to push...

If you want to push my buttons, you talk bad about gays.

 

[GasX]

Originally posted by: ZysoclaplemIf you want to push my buttons, you talk bad about gays.

Man, all of you people are SOOOOO gay!

 

[Zysoclaplem]

Originally posted by: Mwilding

Originally posted by: ZysoclaplemIf you want to push my buttons, you talk bad about gays.

Man, all of you people are SOOOOO gay!

ARRGRGHH!!! YOU ARE A DIRTY MEAN BULLY BIGOT!!

 

[91TTZ]

Originally posted by: Zysoclaplem

Originally posted by: spidey07
deep down a woman wants a leader, a provider and a protector. ie a man.

Metros have none of those qualities. They're just the guys that got picked on in school. They're pansies...wussies.

They are clean, successful, strong, smell good, dress nice, smart, fun, and good providers.
They know what they want in life, and won't let anyone stand in their way.

Zyso, I wasn't going to jump on you anymore once you "came out" in this thread, but I see that you keep on posting nonsense.

As this thread progresses and more information about you comes out, it is readily apparent that you aren't considered "normal" and aren't exactly the voice of reason. You're a member of a very vocal minority group and you keep spreading your warped views on a topic about straight guys attracting straight women.

Allow me to break it down yet again:

I could tell from the beginning that something was "off" about you. Without even meeting you, I could tell from your words and thought process.

The topic was about a hetero woman wanting a hetero guy who acts like a normal, hetero guy and not a metrosexual wimp. You jump in here claiming to know what hetero women want (more than the female blogger and more than me), but upon further grilling I was right- you have absolutely no experience dealing with women in a relationship. I can tell you one thing for certain- what a woman complains about to her harmless cuddlebitch is completely different than what she says to her hetero "normal guy" lover. She's complaining to one, banging the other- where do you think her real interests lie?

You keep proclaiming the benefits of metrosexuality because you're trying to indirectly stick up for homosexuality. You like that style.

Since you have absolutely no qualification to talk as a hetero woman OR a hetero man, I suggest you stay out of this.

Maybe the metro guys in here will be surprised to learn that their biggest fans aren't straight women, but gay guys. That's who they're really attracting... just as normal guys have been saying since day one.

 

[KarenMarie]

Originally posted by: Zysoclaplem
I'm not saying, in any way, that all girls prefer one certain type of guy.
But I think I know what is attractive about a guy, and it's not a hairy belly or smelling like Old Spice.
And my definition of what is metro, and what is not metro, are different than 91TTZs.
My arguement is, being metro, being gay, being whatever, does not make you less of a man. Nor does it make you weak and skinny. Nor does it affect acne. It doesn't make you a fairy, other anything like that.
I don't classify guys I like or look at as metro, or non-metro.
91TTZ has a problem with himself, and puts down a certain type of person to compensate for that feeling.

you know what is attractive about a guy to you ... is that what you meant? Or what is attractive about a guy to a gay man? I am a little unsure how you can make a statement that you know what is and is not attractive in a guy. I am not gay, I am not a man, and I don't profess to state what is and is not attractive about men in general.

We should only speak for ourselves as far as what constitutes attractive and what does not. Personally... shaven men with loads of beauty products who worry about co-ordinating accessories and smelling pretty is not manly. it is effeminate.

but that is my opinion. as you have yours. there should be no blanket statements boasting to know what is and is not for everyone.

 

[Zysoclaplem]

Originally posted by: 91TTZ

Originally posted by: Zysoclaplem

Originally posted by: spidey07
deep down a woman wants a leader, a provider and a protector. ie a man.

Metros have none of those qualities. They're just the guys that got picked on in school. They're pansies...wussies.

They are clean, successful, strong, smell good, dress nice, smart, fun, and good providers.
They know what they want in life, and won't let anyone stand in their way.

Zyso, I wasn't going to jump on you anymore once you "came out" in this thread, but I see that you keep on posting nonsense.

As this thread progresses and more information about you comes out, it is readily apparent that you aren't considered "normal". You're a member of a very vocal minority group and you keep spreading your warped views on this.

Allow me to break it down yet again:

I could tell from the beginning that something wasn't right about you. Without even meeting you, I could tell from your words and thought process.

The topic was about a hetero woman wanting a hetero guy who acts like a normal, hetero guy. You jump in here claiming to know what hetero women want (more than the blogger and more than me), but upon further grilling I was right- you have absolutely no experience dealing with women in a relationship. I can tell you one thing for certain- what a woman complains about to her harmless cuddlebitch is completely different than what she says to her hetero "normal guy" lover.

You keep proclaiming the benefits of metrosexuality because you're trying to indirectly stick up for homosexuality. You like that style.

Since you have absolutely no qualification to talk as a hetero woman OR a hetero man, I suggest you stay out of this.

Maybe the metro guys in here will be surprised to learn that their biggest fans aren't straight women, but gay guys.

#1 - I've been out since the day I joined this Forum. You just had no idea, as seems to be the case with alot of things.
#2 - You were the first one to come out and say what women want, not me.
#3 - There is absolutely nothing wrong with me, or my though process. I've got no problem with hairy men, shaved men, strong men, or weak men. Heteros, gays, metros, Transexuals. I feel no need to put any of them down. To each his own.
#4 - I think I know more about what women want than you do, after all, we are attracted to the same sex. Different women like different types of men.
#5 - In my generalization:

They are clean, successful, strong, smell good, dress nice, smart, fun, and good providers.
They know what they want in life, and won't let anyone stand in their way.

I was satirical of the generalizations being made by spidey07.

 

[Zysoclaplem]

Originally posted by: KarenMarie

Originally posted by: Zysoclaplem
I'm not saying, in any way, that all girls prefer one certain type of guy.
But I think I know what is attractive about a guy, and it's not a hairy belly or smelling like Old Spice.
And my definition of what is metro, and what is not metro, are different than 91TTZs.
My arguement is, being metro, being gay, being whatever, does not make you less of a man. Nor does it make you weak and skinny. Nor does it affect acne. It doesn't make you a fairy, other anything like that.
I don't classify guys I like or look at as metro, or non-metro.
91TTZ has a problem with himself, and puts down a certain type of person to compensate for that feeling.

you know what is attractive about a guy to you ... is that what you meant? Or what is attractive about a guy to a gay man? I am a little unsure how you can make a statement that you know what is and is not attractive in a guy. I am not gay, I am not a man, and I don't profess to state what is and is not attractive about men in general.

We should only speak for ourselves as far as what constitutes attractive and what does not. Personally... shaven men with loads of beauty products who worry about co-ordinating accessories and smelling pretty is not manly. it is effeminate.

but that is my opinion. as you have yours. there should be no blanket statements boasting to know what is and is not for everyone.

You missed my first statement.

I'm not saying, in any way, that all girls prefer one certain type of guy.

I know what I find attractive about a guy. And I know alot of girls that feel the same way.
But to each her/his own.

 

[aidanjm]

I think the type of woman turned off by metrosexuals would be a woman who is only comfortable with very traditional gender roles, she'd probably cook the food, wash the dishes, etc. She's probably feel very uncomfortable if the guy started doing "female" tasks. She's be a perfect complement to the macho, neanderthal traditional guy. They fit each other's way of thinking perfectly.

 

[aidanjm]

Originally posted by: KarenMarie

Originally posted by: Zysoclaplem
I'm not saying, in any way, that all girls prefer one certain type of guy.
But I think I know what is attractive about a guy, and it's not a hairy belly or smelling like Old Spice.
And my definition of what is metro, and what is not metro, are different than 91TTZs.
My arguement is, being metro, being gay, being whatever, does not make you less of a man. Nor does it make you weak and skinny. Nor does it affect acne. It doesn't make you a fairy, other anything like that.
I don't classify guys I like or look at as metro, or non-metro.
91TTZ has a problem with himself, and puts down a certain type of person to compensate for that feeling.

you know what is attractive about a guy to you ... is that what you meant? Or what is attractive about a guy to a gay man? I am a little unsure how you can make a statement that you know what is and is not attractive in a guy. I am not gay, I am not a man, and I don't profess to state what is and is not attractive about men in general.

We should only speak for ourselves as far as what constitutes attractive and what does not. Personally... shaven men with loads of beauty products who worry about co-ordinating accessories and smelling pretty is not manly. it is effeminate.

but that is my opinion. as you have yours. there should be no blanket statements boasting to know what is and is not for everyone.

How odd, KarenMarie, that you haven't taken 91TTZ to task, also, for his blanket statements about what is and is not for everyone.

 

[shimsham]

Originally posted by: aidanjm
I think the type of woman turned off by metrosexuals would be a woman who is only comfortable with very traditional gender roles, she'd probably cook the food, wash the dishes, etc. She's probably feel very uncomfortable if the guy started doing "female" tasks. She's be a perfect complement to the macho, neanderthal traditional guy. They fit each other's restricted, warped way of thinking perfectly.

i do all the cooking and 90% of the cleaning in my house. im far from metro, as im sure youve surmised by now.