Rant about taking care of sick kids,** UPDATED**

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American Gunner

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I like how OP is ignoring any reply that mentions talking to the parents first or how it's a DB thing to call the child protection services before confronting the parents.

OP sounds like the nosy neighbor who is always peeping out his blinds.
It seems like the OP is a nosy bitch.
 

Exterous

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Some parents get defensive when someone questions their parenting skills. I would rather not get into an argument with them when they feel justified in their actions.

One of the things about human nature, we rarely admit when we do something wrong. When we are confronted, we usually get defensive.

So, instead of taking the difficult road you would rather go behind your 'friends' backs to child services? Do you actually consider them friends? Really?
 

MrChad

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It's totally inappropriate to call CPS because they were reluctant to take the kid to the hospital for vomiting/diarrhea.

My son ran a couple really high fevers when he was younger (like 104-105) and we rushed him to the hospital. Each time was stressful and non-productive. The doctors subjected him to a bunch of standard tests, concluded he had "some sort of virus/bug" and sent us home to continue our Motrin/Tylenol regimen. Eventually we realized that he just ran really high fevers, and since then we don't react that way unless it persists for a long time or is accompanied by other unusual symptoms.

In short, even if they aren't going to win the Parents of the Year award, they know their kids better than you and it's none of your business.
 

Savij

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Over the past few years there have been some events that made me scratch my head and say "wtf?".

Such as the dad leaving boards with nails outside, kid steps on nail.

My wife and I were over at their house about a year ago. While we were there, I saw a mouse in one of the kids rooms. The mouse ran into a hole in the wall that was about the size of a baseball. I thought to myself, "really?".

I might be a little over critical, but sometimes I ask myself what the parents were thinking.

While the parents probably won't win any Good HouseKeeping awards, these kids are probably doing ok if the worst things they have to worry about are a stomach bug, stepping on nails and a mouse (It doesn't sound like the house was filthy from your description of the incident).

From your own stories, the kids are fed and taken to the doctor. I don't know what you would expect the state to do. It sounds like you would do more harm than good by calling CPS.

If you really want to help the kids you're better off taking the advice of everyone here and talking to them. You could offer to help with whatever construction project and help him clear the boards and nails or work with the family in setting rodent traps and patching holes in walls.
 

lokiju

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This sounds like a horrible idea vs either just minding your own business and trusting that you're not seeing 100% of the situation as you do not live with them 24/7 or just talking with the parents about it.

Calling child services should be a last resort, not first.
 

Texashiker

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My son ran a couple really high fevers when he was younger (like 104-105) and we rushed him to the hospital.

I have four children I went through the same thing with.

I am not some 21 year old that has never been around kids. I am 43 years old, have 4 kids of my own, 4 step kids, 12 grandkids and one more grandkid on the way.


In short, even if they aren't going to win the Parents of the Year award, they know their kids better than you and it's none of your business.

If I am going to make a mistake, its going to be what I think is in the best interest of the child.

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Its like the nail incident. I told the guy he better pick those boards up before one of the kids stepped on a nail. Maybe a month later, sure enough, one of the kids stepped on a nail.

I might be overreacting to the kid being sick, I admit that, but I am concerned for the overall health of the children in the home.

This sounds like a horrible idea vs either just minding your own business

No, if something happened to the kids I would be mad at myself for not doing something.


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Calling child services should be a last resort, not first.

I can agree with that.
 

American Gunner

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Aren't you the same person that complained about your kids coming over and using your internet while you took care of their kids that didn't know how to behave? Maybe you ought to worry about your own family before you start worrying about someone else.
 

DominionSeraph

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They took him to the hospital once they figured out this wasn't a two day bug, he was released, and now they're taking him back to the doctor since his symptoms are persisting.

Sounds like perfectly acceptable parenting to me.
 

Gooberlx2

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They took him to the hospital once they figured out this wasn't a two day bug, he was released, and now they're taking him back to the doctor since his symptoms are persisting.

Sounds like perfectly acceptable parenting to me.

Yeah, this. Maybe the kid should have been resting indoors when they all went out...or maybe the kid thought he was feeling well/better until they got to the restaurant. Either way, the visited the ER and are following up. What more do you want them to do?
 
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I am not ignoring those statements, I am just not to replying to them.

Some parents get defensive when someone questions their parenting skills. I would rather not get into an argument with them when they feel justified in their actions.

One of the things about human nature, we rarely admit when we do something wrong. When we are confronted, we usually get defensive and make excuses for our actions

Who said you needed to argue with them? Just say what you feel is necessary about the situation, and if they disagree or get defensive, end the conversation there and walk away. You have the choice to get into the argument or not. But just snoopy around your "friends" and digging into their situation just so you can feel like a big shot here on ATOT is just plain pathetic.

How are you close friends with them if you can't even confront them about this?
 
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Aren't you the same person that complained about your kids coming over and using your internet while you took care of their kids that didn't know how to behave? Maybe you ought to worry about your own family before you start worrying about someone else.

He's also the guy who posted another thread about how his neighbor/friend was doing something that he didn't approve of, and the funny thing is that he posted about it twice b/c he forgot he had already did so months ago.
 

bfdd

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Not your business man. Just let them do what they do, punish them afterwards for harming a life and move on. We can't always be Captain Save-A-Ho.
 

Texashiker

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How are you close friends with them if you can't even confront them about this?

You are implying I have never tried to talk to the parents.

Please stop jumping to conclusions.

I presented a certain amount of information in the opening post, please do not try to add or take away anything.
 

rasczak

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Everyone handles these things differently. Having had three kids, they know the routine of when to bring kids to the doctor.
 
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You are implying I have never tried to talk to the parents.

Please stop jumping to conclusions.

I presented a certain amount of information in the opening post, please do not try to add or take away anything.

You said you'd rather not get into an argument with them. So have you talked to them or not? I mean, why are you getting bent out of shape when it is you who is ignoring posts, not answering questions, leaving out information, etc.

You haven't talked to them about it have you? So again, how are you close friends with them if you can't even confront them?
 

Pulsar

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Some kids get sick all the time. Having diarrhea for a couple days isn't a reason to run to the ER. Some parents try to let the kids get over stuff before going to the doctor.

THANK you. Judging from Texas's previous posts, he's pretty clueless. This crap just cements it.

Kids get sick all the time. Throwing up for 1 day and diarhea for the next 2 is pretty freakin par for the course. Especially in a family with multiple kids where stuff gets passed back and fourth, if you aren't capable of going out with one of those kids while they're sick, you're never going to go out. That's just a simply fact of life of living in close quarters with 3 young children. In addition, at that age, they are constantly bringing home germs from schools as well.

You ask the kid how they feel. You watch for signs of dehydration, glassy eyes, or listlessness. You watch temperatures (anything 104 or under is fine.... 105 you start luke-warm baths, and 106 you take them in).
 

OutHouse

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Over the past few years there have been some events that made me scratch my head and say "wtf?".

Such as the dad leaving boards with nails outside, kid steps on nail.

My wife and I were over at their house about a year ago. While we were there, I saw a mouse in one of the kids rooms. The mouse ran into a hole in the wall that was about the size of a baseball. I thought to myself, "really?".

I might be a little over critical, but sometimes I ask myself what the parents were thinking.

mind your own fucking business. the kids are not being abused and the parents ARE taking them to the doctor. what the fuck more do you want?

you saw ONE mouse in the house??? and that is part of the reason you want to call CPS on them? wtf is your problem?

im scratching my head at you and wondering wtf you are thinking.
 
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Texashiker

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You said you'd rather not get into an argument with them. So have you talked to them or not? I mean, why are you getting bent out of shape when it is you who is ignoring posts, not answering questions, leaving out information, etc.

You have the information in the opening post, with that information would you consider contacting CPS?

Its a clear cut question.
 

Pulsar

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The kid finally gets where he can barely walk to the bathroom, its only then the parents say "maybe we should take him to the emergency room". ER nurse tries 4 times to start an IV, finally gets an IV going, child is admitted for overnight.

While in the hospital, I do not think the doctor does a stool sample. What doctor does not get a stool sample from a child who has been vomiting for 1 day and diarrhea for around 2 days? I wonder if the parents were honest with the doctor as to how long the child had been sick?

How, exactly, are you getting information on what goes on at their doctor? How many times the ER nurse tried to start the IV? I certainly hope neither you nor your wife is in the medical profession. Federal law prohibits dissemination of this type of information.

How, exactly, are you getting information about what's going on at their house? Are you there?

You need to get your damn nose out of other people's business. I'm fairly certain this information was all communicated to the ER doc and nurse. They saw no need to contact services. So is your wife a nurse?
 

OutHouse

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I would definitely call if the kid is still sick.

There are so many god damn people that shouldn't have kids. This family is a perfect example.

you sound like one of those parents who should not have kids. its clear you dont know what the hell you are talking about.
 

lytalbayre

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Just report it. Likely the parents will get a little slap on the hand and maybe a dose of reality in terms of their responsibility to their children.
 
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You have the information in the opening post, with that information would you consider contacting CPS?

Its a clear cut question.

Have you talked to the parents yet about this situation?

It's a clear cut question.

How did you come to such detailed medical information?

It's a clear cut question.
 

MarkXIX

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It's totally inappropriate to call CPS because they were reluctant to take the kid to the hospital for vomiting/diarrhea.

My son ran a couple really high fevers when he was younger (like 104-105) and we rushed him to the hospital. Each time was stressful and non-productive. The doctors subjected him to a bunch of standard tests, concluded he had "some sort of virus/bug" and sent us home to continue our Motrin/Tylenol regimen. Eventually we realized that he just ran really high fevers, and since then we don't react that way unless it persists for a long time or is accompanied by other unusual symptoms.

In short, even if they aren't going to win the Parents of the Year award, they know their kids better than you and it's none of your business.

This. Kids get sick. Parents do their best to take care of them. Doctors don't give a shit about what you're talking about.

Only questionable act was taking what sounds like a pretty ill child into a public place like a restaurant. Be a man, tell them that was a stupid idea and ask them how their kid is doing and shut up about it.