Random Bush Comment for the week

[Arkaign]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
How about we send the Iraqi's Howie Mendel?

lol I'll chip in on his airline ticket 😀 maybe he can blind the terrorists and insurgents with that shiny dome of his!

 

[tw1164]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
How about we send the Iraqi's Howie Mendel?

Too many germs

 

[tomywishbone]

From todays news. Perhaps our leader was wrong.

Link

Mandela still alive after embarrassing Bush remark Fri Sep 21, 8:15 AM ET

JOHANNESBURG (Reuters) - Nelson Mandela is still very much alive despite an embarrassing gaffe by U.S. President George W. Bush, who alluded to the former South African leader's death in an attempt to explain sectarian violence in Iraq.

"It's out there. All we can do is reassure people, especially South Africans, that President Mandela is alive," Achmat Dangor, chief executive officer of the Nelson Mandela Foundation, said as Bush's comments received worldwide coverage.

In a speech defending his administration's Iraq policy, Bush said former Iraqi President Saddam Hussein's brutality had made it impossible for a unifying leader to emerge and stop the sectarian violence that has engulfed the Middle Eastern nation.

"I heard somebody say, Where's Mandela?' Well, Mandela's dead because Saddam Hussein killed all the Mandelas," Bush, who has a reputation for verbal faux pas, said in a press conference in Washington on Thursday.

Jailed for 27 years for fighting white minority rule, Mandela became South Africa's first black president in 1994. He won a Nobel Peace Prize for preaching racial harmony and guiding the nation peacefully into the post-apartheid era.

References to his death -- Mandela is now 89 and increasingly frail -- are seen as insensitive in South Africa.


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[Pabster]

Originally posted by: Dari
Yeah, while I'm not invading countries and denying health insurance to children whose parents cannot get into Medicare and can't afford private insurance, I'm making false claims that one of the greatest men of the 20th century is dead:roll:.

It is quite sad that Bush (whose speaking skills are not exactly stellar) was able to slide one right by you. He never claimed Nelson Mandela, the man himself, was dead. It was quite clearly a reference to Mandela-like figures in Iraq which were killed by Saddam Hussein.

 

[Arkaign]

Originally posted by: Pabster

Originally posted by: Dari
Yeah, while I'm not invading countries and denying health insurance to children whose parents cannot get into Medicare and can't afford private insurance, I'm making false claims that one of the greatest men of the 20th century is dead:roll:.

It is quite sad that Bush (whose speaking skills are not exactly stellar) was able to slide one right by you. He never claimed Nelson Mandela, the man himself, was dead. It was quite clearly a reference to Mandela-like figures in Iraq which were killed by Saddam Hussein.

I find it doubtful that he didn't understand Bush's badly spoken quote, but was just making a political jab.

Btw, one could argue that with "Where's Mandela? Well, Mandela's dead" is a false statement. Of course he was speaking of philosophical contemporaries of Mandela's ilk, but it remains a staggeringly stupid thing to say in retrospect. Of course, we've all said a few dumb things in our lives. Bush just happens to have cameras and mics on him 24/7, so it gets amplified.

 

[WHAMPOM]

Originally posted by: Arkaign
Was reading this article on Yahoo/AP news : Hahaha 🙂

And this nugget stood out to me :

"Part of the reason why there's not this instant democracy in Iraq is because people are still recovering from Saddam Hussein's brutal rule," Bush said. "Sort of an interesting comment, I heard somebody say, `Where's Mandela?' Well, Mandela's dead because Saddam Hussein killed all the Mandelas."

Note to Bush : Mandela is still alive.

Btw, I think Bush > Saddam, but that's not saying much, is it? Of course, I also think Bush > LBJ. What happened to statesmen and leaders like Eisenhower and Kennedy? Our two parties are now filled with fools and evil corrupt monkeys.

An Iraqi Mandella would be a scary thing, we only acknowledge the brown nosing, toady types. Besides 41 got them all killed off when he told them to rebel after the first Iraqi action.

 

[Whoozyerdaddy]

Originally posted by: sirjonk

Originally posted by: Dari

Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy

Originally posted by: Dari
Bush is a dumb asshole.

So are you.

Calling people names is fun! 😀

Yeah, while I'm not invading countries and denying health insurance to children whose parents cannot get into Medicare and can't afford private insurance, I'm making false claims that one of the greatest men of the 20th century is dead:roll:.

Whooze: you apprently should have added "and your reading comprehension sucks"

:laugh:

 

[FuzzyBee]

Originally posted by: Dari
Bush is a dumb asshole.

Yet he's President of the United States, and you're sitting behind a keyboard on a chat forum at 2 in the morning.

 

[Pabster]

Originally posted by: FuzzyBee
Yet he's President of the United States, and you're sitting behind a keyboard on a chat forum at 2 in the morning.

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

 

[Dari]

Originally posted by: FuzzyBee

Originally posted by: Dari
Bush is a dumb asshole.

Yet he's President of the United States, and you're sitting behind a keyboard on a chat forum at 2 in the morning.

Ooooh, you're hurting my feelings. And the President could be here as well. Whether or not I'm doing a certain action is independent of the fact that the President is still a dumb asshole whose only reason he is where he is today is because of his daddy.

But people like you see him and honor him for who he is rather than what he is. Says more about you than Bush (or me). At the very least I consider myself his equal. You consider yourself inferior. Shame.

 

[Craig234]

I confess I got this wrong at first; I heard the story from an Air America radio host who was ranting about the error by Bush, and accepted her interpretation, and figured Bush had confused the word Mandela with some group in Iraq, and figured it was an oops.

Reading the actual quote, yes, it looks clear he was responding by making Mandela a class of people - but I'm going to defend the liberals by saying that anything beyond the most simplistic, gutteral 'bring 'em on' messages from Bush is so unusual that you can't expect anyone to not be caught off guard when he does say something a little more complex.

All in all, it appears a non-story, other than the lie that Saddam killed 'all the Mandelas'. That's just the typical dishonest demonizing by Bush, which considering how much Saddam was a monster, isn't easy to be unfair to him, but Bush is the guy who is able to.

 

[Pabster]

Originally posted by: Craig234
...but I'm going to defend the liberals...

What a surprise :roll:

All in all, it appears a non-story, other than the lie that Saddam killed 'all the Mandelas'. That's just the typical dishonest demonizing by Bush, which considering how much Saddam was a monster, isn't easy to be unfair to him, but Bush is the guy who is able to.

It was a credible reference. Saddam executed anyone who proposed or practiced dissent. That's a fact.

 

[Dari]

Originally posted by: Pabster

Originally posted by: Craig234
...but I'm going to defend the liberals...

What a surprise :roll:

All in all, it appears a non-story, other than the lie that Saddam killed 'all the Mandelas'. That's just the typical dishonest demonizing by Bush, which considering how much Saddam was a monster, isn't easy to be unfair to him, but Bush is the guy who is able to.

It was a credible reference. Saddam executed anyone who proposed or practiced dissent. That's a fact.

That's a lie as well. There are those who resisted and escaped death. A simple example would be the autonomous enclaves controlled by the Kurds. Other examples would be the countless Iraqis that found refuge in Iran, Europe, and other parts of the Middle East and returned following his overthrow.

Man, blanket statements by Bush don't have to be taken as truth just because he says it forcefully.