Rand Paul reversed his position on medical marijuana.

[NaughtyGeek]

their ideology is terrible and just flat out doesn't work:

So what supreme ideology is it that you subscribe to that is making the country/world better every day? Our country is getting crushed under the weight of the corrupt two party system that is in place now and idiots like you believing that because another ideology has flaws it's somehow all trash and whatever BS you buy into is the only right way there is that will see to it that it only gets worse. Here's a newsflash for ya:

There is no one political system/point of view that is completely right. When you demonize an entire ideology because you don't agree with one or two points of it you doom yourself to never improve whatever system you subscribe to.

Also, why the hell is this thread prattling on about racism in this country? The thread was started about a politician changing his stance on the issue of medical marijuana which was later debunked. If you want your own little race war, start a topic discussing how you believe that no one will ever view the world through your jaded eyes or something to that effect.

 

[Phokus]

So what supreme ideology is it that you subscribe to that is making the country/world better every day? Our country is getting crushed under the weight of the corrupt two party system that is in place now and idiots like you believing that because another ideology has flaws it's somehow all trash and whatever BS you buy into is the only right way there is that will see to it that it only gets worse. Here's a newsflash for ya:

There is no one political system/point of view that is completely right. When you demonize an entire ideology because you don't agree with one or two points of it you doom yourself to never improve whatever system you subscribe to.

Also, why the hell is this thread prattling on about racism in this country? The thread was started about a politician changing his stance on the issue of medical marijuana which was later debunked. If you want your own little race war, start a topic discussing how you believe that no one will ever view the world through your jaded eyes or something to that effect.

Because the thread is about Rand Paul and Rand paul is an asshole racist. His position on medical marijuana is irrelevant in terms of whether he wins the race or not, but his appeal to racists is a big deal.

 

[xj0hnx]

Because the thread is about Rand Paul and Rand paul is an asshole racist.

That's as ignorant as any statement ever made here.

 

[Phokus]

That's as ignorant as any statement ever made here.

Oh i'm sorry, what i meant to say, 'rand paul panders to racist assholes'. There, that makes it all better.

 

[xj0hnx]

Oh i'm sorry, what i meant to say, 'rand paul panders to racist assholes'. There, that makes it all better.

Nope, still ignorant.

 

[Vette73]

So I guess the republicans are running Rand Paul now

Rand Paul is his own worst enemy if this is true. :awe:

 

[Phokus]

Nope, still ignorant.

Sorry about your detachment from reality.

 

[xj0hnx]

Sorry about your detachment from reality.

I'm sorry about yours. This is fun we can play this game all day.

 

[Moonbeam]

I think his point is that there are already businesses that have racial overtones, but that the majority of businesses would indeed not become racially segregated nowadays if it (CRA) were gone. Seriously though a barber shop in the deep south? I could find you barber shops in the deep south that would kick you for being white too ...so what?

That's as ignorant as any statement ever made here.

 

[xj0hnx]

That's as ignorant as any statement ever made here.

Shouldn't you be droning on about how all republicans need to die? Good to see the doctors haven't taken away your computer privileges though, I guess you're in between doses right now huh?

 

[drebo]

It did not even eliminate "obvious" racism, it eliminated institutionalized racism, and not even all of that.

Right, we'd need to get rid of Affirmative Action to finish getting rid of all of it.

 

[Moonbeam]

NaughtyGeek: So what supreme ideology is it that you subscribe to that is making the country/world better every day?

M: Not relevant to the truth of the issue being discussed.

NG: Our country is getting crushed under the weight of the corrupt two party system that is in place now and idiots like you believing that because another ideology has flaws it's somehow all trash and whatever BS you buy into is the only right way there is that will see to it that it only gets worse. Here's a newsflash for ya:

M: No such claim was made and no proof offered of yours.

NG: There is no one political system/point of view that is completely right. When you demonetize an entire ideology because you don't agree with one or two points of it you doom yourself to never improve whatever system you subscribe to.

M: Illogical. Neither party supports drug decriminalization. I am not going to support a Nazi party that does.

NG: Also, why the hell is this thread prattling on about racism in this country? The thread was started about a politician changing his stance on the issue of medical marijuana which was later debunked. If you want your own little race war, start a topic discussing how you believe that no one will ever view the world through your jaded eyes or something to that effect.

M: I don't support Thread Nazis either. I found the discussion very interesting and beneficial to my thinking.

Both sides made fascinating points and the truth isn't so easy to discover:

I think that if it is true that race laws from the government were eliminated there would be less problems for blacks than there used to be. On the other hand blacks are still far far behind, though whites are increasingly becoming as poor as blacks it would seem. The damage done by prejudice lasted for centuries and left deep scars to family structure, inheritance, and psychological self confidence for blacks unmatched in American except for the genocide of the native people whom we shoved onto what was once worthless land.

The US imported and then destroyed black people. For that those of us who have some real moral values feel a responsibility. The problem of course is that prejudice was always a way for those who hate themselves the most to have a target to dump that self hate, and that continues right up to today. Those who feel the most worthless focus on the fact that somebody, not them, might be getting a break, and they want that break for themselves or nobody.

Naturally, you can't cure self hate as nobody knows they have it, but blacks will grow in stature, perhaps, as the worst among us transfer their hate to Muslims.

 

[xj0hnx]

Right, we'd need to get rid of Affirmative Action to finish getting rid of all of it.

Yip. Affirmative Action is THE institutionalized racism nowadays.

 

[bfdd]

Phokus if the CRA was abolished, we wouldn't go back into Whites Only or blacks in the back of the bus, that shit just wouldn't happen. You'd have a very small minority of people, of all colors, posting up signs that said "black only" "white only" etc and they'd get ran out of business quicker. In fact I'm willing to bet a "whites only" place would die out much faster than lets say a "hispanics only" or "blacks only" place(in the more populated parts of the country/bigger states.).

 

[Moonbeam]

Shouldn't you be droning on about how all republicans need to die? Good to see the doctors haven't taken away your computer privileges though, I guess you're in between doses right now huh?

http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2048208

 

[bamacre]

Because the thread is about Rand Paul and Rand paul is an asshole racist.

Ahhh, finally. Now if you could have just started your argument with this, we'd both have spent less time in this thread.

Rand's stance on this issue doesn't stem from racism. The libertarian stance on this issue is COMPLETELY consistent with other libertarian ideas. It's about private property rights, and has nothing to do with racism. They believe bar and restaurant owners should be able to allow smoking on their property, and I suppose using Phukus logic, that means all libertarians are smokers.

 

[BoberFett]

ohnooooes, medical marijuana! Because even though we're facing the largest, most crony government within the last century, we still need our fake diseases to drug ourselves into oblivion!

You don't see how tightly the drug war funded police state and paramilitary industry tie into cronyism?

 

[Moonbeam]

Phokus if the CRA was abolished, we wouldn't go back into Whites Only or blacks in the back of the bus, that shit just wouldn't happen. You'd have a very small minority of people, of all colors, posting up signs that said "black only" "white only" etc and they'd get ran out of business quicker. In fact I'm willing to bet a "whites only" place would die out much faster than lets say a "hispanics only" or "blacks only" place(in the more populated parts of the country/bigger states.).

We wouldn't go back because we were forced to evolve with the help of the government. We wouldn't be much different than we were without it and affirmative action is part of the ongoing progress. Remember, it is those who feel most worthless that hate the idea somebody is given some advantage, regardless of how much that person's deficits. Even wheelchair access drives some folks nuts. It's the way of assholes. Someday they will all die and the world will be better.

 

[BoberFett]

Why does Phokus hate black people so much? He seems to believe they're incapable of performing on their own; that they're an "inferior" race. It's sad how some people can't get over their prejudice.

 

[Phokus]

Ahhh, finally. Now if you could have just started your argument with this, we'd both have spent less time in this thread.

Rand's stance on this issue doesn't stem from racism. The libertarian stance on this issue is COMPLETELY consistent with other libertarian ideas. It's about private property rights, and has nothing to do with racism. They believe bar and restaurant owners should be able to allow smoking on their property, and I suppose using Phukus logic, that means all libertarians are smokers.

Well of course you did not note my correction and note what i meant was that he was PANDERING to racists.

Rand's stance on the issue doesn't have to do with anything except wanting to win in Kentucky.

It's the same reason why he's a 'moderate' on farm subsidies (after he found how how many kentucky farmers were receiving federal subsidies):

http://www.kentucky.com/2010/07/01/1331676/paul-tempers-opposition-to-federal.html

To claim that he's a libertarian or that he holds a position because of his libertarianism is patently ridiculous. He's just like most politicians and will say whatever is popular with the voters. And championing racist business practices is certainly something that white voters in KENTUCKY would approve of.

 

[bfdd]

We wouldn't go back because we were forced to evolve with the help of the government. We wouldn't be much different than we were without it and affirmative action is part of the ongoing progress. Remember, it is those who feel most worthless that hate the idea somebody is given some advantage, regardless of how much that person's deficits. Even wheelchair access drives some folks nuts. It's the way of assholes. Someday they will all die and the world will be better.

Affirmative Action is vastly different than wheelchair access. Affirmative Action is saying "you're black you're not as good as an asian or a white person so we're going to give you a nudge up" wheelchair access is different those mother fuckers can't walk up stairs, they need a ramp. Are you saying black people can't walk up stairs?

 

[MikeMike]

Phokus...

nice 5 year old articles...

and are you saying that the barber in the "whites only" barber shop doesnt have a point?

have you ever SEEN a black person get their hair cut? to admit that the techniques and ways of cutting a black persons hair and a white persons hair are the same, is about as idiotic as you can get...

 

[Moonbeam]

Affirmative Action is vastly different than wheelchair access. Affirmative Action is saying "you're black you're not as good as an asian or a white person so we're going to give you a nudge up" wheelchair access is different those mother fuckers can't walk up stairs, they need a ramp. Are you saying black people can't walk up stairs?

Each of us is a person of the human race. We were all born equal according to our Constitution. But some folk are born with supportive parents and some have none to care for them or parents who are worthless as human beings and pass that onto their kids. All people who are worthless are worthless because they feel that way and they feel that way because instead of the unconditional love a person of equality deserves was denied them and they were put down. It is a disease we all have but to varying degrees. For centuries the self hate of humanity was dumped on blacks. For this reason blacks experience more racial put downs than other people. For this reason they continue to have to deal with self-esteem issues more that non black folk and continue to face more put-downs because they are black.

But self haters are egotists, the mask we put on self hate. They are quite convinced, 1. that their own self hate is greater than anybody else's, and 2. that somebody else, not they, get all the breaks. Self hate creates envy and contempt for the betterment of others. It is not affirmative action that says blacks are inferior, it is us that have said that. Affirmative action openly acknowledges the damage that was done and actively seeks to redress it. Self hate is also the source of all denial. Folk who hate themselves can't take any sort of self criticism or blame because they already feel worthless and throw up their ego denying asses to deny any blame. The life of the worthless is devoted to denying how worthless they are. They see their job as making others feel worthless so they can at least point to somebody worse than them.

 

[MikeMike]

Each of us is a person of the human race. We were all born equal according to our Constitution. But some folk are born with supportive parents and some have none to care for them or parents who are worthless as human beings and pass that onto their kids. All people who are worthless are worthless because they feel that way and they feel that way because instead of the unconditional love a person of equality deserves was denied them and they were put down. It is a disease we all have but to varying degrees. For centuries the self hate of humanity was dumped on blacks. For this reason blacks experience more racial put downs than other people. For this reason they continue to have to deal with self-esteem issues more that non black folk and continue to face more put-downs because they are black.

But self haters are egotists, the mask we put on self hate. They are quite convinced, 1. that their own self hate is greater than anybody else's, and 2. that somebody else, not they, get all the breaks. Self hate creates envy and contempt for the betterment of others. It is not affirmative action that says blacks are inferior, it is us that have said that. Affirmative action openly acknowledges the damage that was done and actively seeks to redress it. Self hate is also the source of all denial. Folk who hate themselves can't take any sort of self criticism or blame because they already feel worthless and throw up their ego denying asses to deny any blame. The live of the worthless is devoted to denying how worthless they are. They see their job as making others feel worthless so they can at least point to somebody worse than them.

Affirmative Action states:
Hey, even though we say you are equal, we don't really believe that, so here, have this cane, and use it as your crutch the entire time through life so that you CAN be equal to us...

 

[Moonbeam]

Phokus...

nice 5 year old articles...

and are you saying that the barber in the "whites only" barber shop doesnt have a point?

have you ever SEEN a black person get their hair cut? to admit that the techniques and ways of cutting a black persons hair and a white persons hair are the same, is about as idiotic as you can get...

So true. White barbers are genetically inferior when it comes to learning how to cut hair.