Rampage Vs. NV20

[Noriaki]

20 = Member
200 = Senior
1000 = Golden
2000 = Platinum
3000 = Diamond


I have to agree that taking the same game and making the graphics better makes the game more enjoyable, but simply taking a game with good graphics does NOT make it a good game.

 

[Sephiroth_IX]

<< He obviously said if you take the same game but make the graphics much better then that game is more enjoyable and thats true >>

Correct

<< zork was great... it ran at my refresh rate... ah, text. AC and EQ have better visuals, but i still consider UO the better game bcause its got so many more things to do. unreal tourney has an outdated engine that brings most video card to a crawl but is still more enjoyable than q3a because its simply a better game. alice uses the same enigne as q3a, has no multiplayer, and is still a better game. then theres starcraft, which i still play because its incredible, not for visual candy. >>

Ok, take your unreal tournament, add FSAA and up the resolution. Keep the framerate the same (assuming you upgraded your video card) Are you having a better gaming experience? This is what i am getting at, this has nothing to do with game design.

<< nVidia may have some hardware hsr but from what i understand it won't remove all hidden surfaces. if 3dfx can get their software hsr working properly, maybe even have it running on the t&amp;l unit, plus the huge bandwidth advantage, they might have it won. >>

No HSR will remove EVERYTHING. Tiling is king, its the only thing that removes pretty much everything. Other than that, 3dfx has Gigapixels engineers to help them implement their HSR, so it could be of better quality than that of Nvidias. COULD be. Your statement here bases upon my points - dominating bandwidth, probable hardware HSR, or even software. (which may use the off chip powerful Sage T&amp;L unit) They give a close fillrate (which i think they will, because V5 had more fill by far than the GF1, it's planned competition) and deliver the card on time, and they will be king.


Two men are wanted for two different reasons - Hardware and DaveB3d, cmon in

 

[Pete]

No offense but right now I want to beat you over the head.

Ah-ha-ha-ha-ha-haaaaa!

 

[JellyBaby]

Dulanic,

No offense taken. But I respectfully disagree. You can take a game like Dukes of Hazzard, give it the best makeover money can buy, and it would still be a suckass game. That's my point.

I've found it's better to look at a game from the inside-out, not outside in. There's an old adage that might help you understand, &quot;Great graphics can make a good game great, but great graphics can't make a bad game better&quot;. Exceptional graphics, however, do fool many gamers into believing their getting more than what's really being offered.

Am I saying threads like this are invalid? Hell no! I'm the proud owner of a $365 GF2. Buy I bought it for a different set of reasons.

 

[NFS4]

Well, this thread is useless now

 

[HigherGround]

this thread should be renamed to Vapor vs NV20

 

[Mem]

HigherGround LOL..you are cruel but true.

 

[JellyBaby]

NFS4,

Useless to you maybe. But there seems to be some consensus here.

EDIT: er, wait, you meant because of 3dfx's selling out right? Sorry!

 

[Sephiroth_IX]

<< No offense taken. But I respectfully disagree. You can take a game like Dukes of Hazzard, give it the best makeover money can buy, and it would still be a suckass game. That's my point. >>

I never said that having a fast card would make a bad game good, i said it would make the experience BETTER. Take a game, add FSAA and up the resolution, and you will have a more satisfying experience. Period.

 

[Deeko]

I will miss these..