Racist Disney fans mocked for claiming 'science proves mermaids can't be black'

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Michael Mann's version of "The Last of the Mohicans" was pretty different from the previous works, but it was vastly superior. I really don't care about the casting of the mermaid. I just hope she sings well because Howard Ashman (lyrics) and Alan Menken (music) deserve it.

That said, I really don't like the whole idea of these live-action remakes. So far they've all been clearly inferior to the animated masterpieces -- so there's really no reason for these to exist. According to past interviews with Ashman and Menken, "The Little Mermaid" opened their eyes to the potential of musical productions done in animation, so they doubled down on animated features and basically stopped doing stuff for the stage (was the "Little Shop of Horrors" musical their last?). The hits that followed show they were on the right track:

The Little Mermaid
Beauty and the Beast
Aladdin

...then Ashman died (AIDS, I think), and the world lost a genius. :(

Agreed - lion king in particular is one hell of a head scratcher - the live action remake is a freaking CGI cartoon, so why bother?
 

dawp

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Agreed - lion king in particular is one hell of a head scratcher - the live action remake is a freaking CGI cartoon, so why bother?
well, the original was released 25 years ago, not sure how copyrights are these days or it could just be to keep it in the consumers conscience
 
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well, the original was released 25 years ago, not sure how copyrights are these days or it could just be to keep it in the consumers conscience
I said the exact same thing to my wife - it's less about the quality of the movies and more about keeping the IP in the house of mouse (less so lion king, more so properties based on folklore).
 

Perknose

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Your first goal in life should be to stop believing the lies
Right back at 'ya! First step for you? Turn off Fox News and stop reading The Daily Sturmer.

multiculturalism (which should be that cultures are allowed to co-exist, but maintain their own distinct identity)
Caution! Caution! You are now entering the Irish Zone!

when their real agenda is a new uni-race
Annnnd, here we go! I take it you're a big fan of bringing back the miscegenation laws! No race mixing, you mongrels!


Beginning with the policies they are trying to enact to bring about the extinction of white CIS Christian culture
Amen, brother! A good start would be getting rid of all this evil and depraved 'ethnic" food that has supplanted Christian boiled peas and potatoes. I hear Mexican food makes your children become rapists . . . although, some, I presume, remain good people!

And don't get me started on all this Negro inspired music-- jazz, the blues, rock and roll. It's madrigals 24/7 . . . for that pure white background noise that never over-excites your precious bodily fluids!
 

HomerJS

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Usually when black people's skin is darkened in the media it's to make white people more afraid. Ala OJ and Willie Horton. Nice to see it's positive for a change.
 

cytg111

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Your first goal in life should be to stop believing the lies of those who claim to want multiculturalism (which should be that cultures are allowed to co-exist, but maintain their own distinct identity) when their real agenda is a new uni-race, uni-culture population, Beginning with the policies they are trying to enact to bring about the extinction of white CIS Christian culture they view as evil and a roadblock to their utopia.

x + y + z, to the power of ... minus dit .. times dat, summa summarum : American Taliban.
If "white CIS Christian culture" is of a format that cant play well with others maybe it needs to go the same way as radical Islam. The fuck off.
 

Ichinisan

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Usually when black people's skin is darkened in the media it's to make white people more afraid. Ala OJ and Willie Horton. Nice to see it's positive for a change.
I had to look up "Willie Horton."

Anyway, you think the media made the OJ Simpson trial a sensation? I'm pretty sure it would have been a REALLY BIG DEAL no matter what.
 

sao123

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So...you'd like things to be...separate but equal?

No. But when oil and water are mixed, it creates a immiscible mixture. They are together but each retain their own identity.
When sugar and water are mixed, you no longer have sugar or water.

The former is multiculturalism done right.
The second is the equivalency of the Borg Collective of Human culture as envisioned by the left. I have no desire to be a drone to the global agenda of 1 world race, 1 world culture, 1 world government.
Globalism is fundamentally evil.
 

Jhhnn

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Right back at 'ya! First step for you? Turn off Fox News and stop reading The Daily Sturmer.

Caution! Caution! You are now entering the Irish Zone!

Annnnd, here we go! I take it you're a big fan of bringing back the miscegenation laws! No race mixing, you mongrels!


Amen, brother! A good start would be getting rid of all this evil and depraved 'ethnic" food that has supplanted Christian boiled peas and potatoes. I hear Mexican food makes your children become rapists . . . although, some, I presume, remain good people!

And don't get me started on all this Negro inspired music-- jazz, the blues, rock and roll. It's madrigals 24/7 . . . for that pure white background noise that never over-excites your precious bodily fluids!

Not to mention that marijuana legalization makes it impossible to protect the white women-

https://www.azquotes.com/picture-qu...nics-filipinos-harry-j-anslinger-66-63-90.jpg
 

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No. But when oil and water are mixed, it creates a immiscible mixture. They are together but each retain their own identity.
When sugar and water are mixed, you no longer have sugar or water.

The former is multiculturalism done right.
The second is the equivalency of the Borg Collective of Human culture as envisioned by the left. I have no desire to be a drone to the global agenda of 1 world race, 1 world culture, 1 world government.
Globalism is fundamentally evil.
Christ Almighty, unless you mixed up the usage of former and latter, you're just an Alex Jones lunatic.

Make sure to stock up on ammo for the coming race war, and Helter Skelter!

Jesus save us.
 

brycejones

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No. But when oil and water are mixed, it creates a immiscible mixture. They are together but each retain their own identity.
When sugar and water are mixed, you no longer have sugar or water.

The former is multiculturalism done right.
The second is the equivalency of the Borg Collective of Human culture as envisioned by the left. I have no desire to be a drone to the global agenda of 1 world race, 1 world culture, 1 world government.
Globalism is fundamentally evil.

Is the metric system part of the collectivization process?
 

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No. But when oil and water are mixed, it creates a immiscible mixture. They are together but each retain their own identity.
When sugar and water are mixed, you no longer have sugar or water.

The former is multiculturalism done right.
The second is the equivalency of the Borg Collective of Human culture as envisioned by the left. I have no desire to be a drone to the global agenda of 1 world race, 1 world culture, 1 world government.
Globalism is fundamentally evil.

As someone whose partner is from South Africa, and whose brother is in an interracial marriage, I would kindly invite you to go to hell.
 
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No. But when oil and water are mixed, it creates a immiscible mixture. They are together but each retain their own identity.
When sugar and water are mixed, you no longer have sugar or water.

The former is multiculturalism done right.
The second is the equivalency of the Borg Collective of Human culture as envisioned by the left. I have no desire to be a drone to the global agenda of 1 world race, 1 world culture, 1 world government.
Globalism is fundamentally evil.
My beautiful mixed race kids big to differ. Me? I personally hope you die alone then burn in hell, where you belong.. #hybridvigor

And thanks for exposing yourself as the racist that you are, makes ignoring you in the future easier. I know you don't think you're a racist, not a single racist thinks of themselves as one...
 

Jhhnn

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As someone whose partner is from South Africa, and whose brother is in an interracial marriage, I would kindly invite you to go to hell.

It was different way back when the white man's burden was to spray hot spooge over the ROTW so as to improve the inferior races & their cultures. Then, quite suddenly, there were taco trucks everywhere...
 

HomerJS

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I had to look up "Willie Horton."

Anyway, you think the media made the OJ Simpson trial a sensation? I'm pretty sure it would have been a REALLY BIG DEAL no matter what.
In both cases it was done to make them more "menacing"
 

Ichinisan

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In both cases it was done to make them more "menacing"
I disagree.

What exactly was done to make OJ "more menacing?" The charges against him?

The media didn't come up with that.

It was a sensation because a huge sports / movie star apparently killed his wife, then led police on a chase that was broadcast live.
 

brycejones

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I disagree.

What exactly was done to make OJ "more menacing?" The charges against him?

The media didn't come up with that.

It was a sensation because a huge sports / movie star apparently killed his wife, then led police on a chase that was broadcast live.

I think you should go back to Homer’s post your originally responded to for the answer to your question. Homer made a very specific statement.
 

Ichinisan

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I think you should go back to Homer’s post your originally responded to for the answer to your question. Homer made a very specific statement.
If he means they literally made his skin darker, that's just silly.

In the mid 1990s, was completely impractical to just ask a graphics department to do that for TV broadcast. They had enough difficulty making crude text appear on the screen.

You think he's saying the media modified imagery to make Halle Bailey look darker than she really is?
 
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If he means they literally made his skin darker, that's just silly.

In the mid 1990s, was completely impractical to just ask a graphics department to do that for TV broadcast. They had enough difficulty making crude text appear on the screen.

You think he's saying the media modified imagery to make Halle Bailey look darker than she really is?

I believe this is what is being referred to

http://www.alteredimagesbdc.org/oj-simpson

https://www.nytimes.com/1994/06/25/us/time-responds-to-criticism-over-simpson-cover.html

https://abcnews.go.com/Internationa...rsial-magazine-covers-16328228/image-16328306
 

CZroe

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Pretty sure Hans Christian Andersen wrote "The Little Mermaid" in the 1800s.

Quite correct, and the girl pictured on the book was still a white girl with reddish blond hair. So why are we again changing 200 years of established history just to be politically correct?

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It wasn’t a book. It was a short fairy tale included in a collection of fairy tales. Like virtually any old fairy tale it has been reinterpreted and illustrated differently again and again. You’re latching on to one old interpretation in an attempt to justify your opposition to a new one, but that’s not how things work.

How did you feel about Disney’s Princess and the Frog reinterpreting that one as a New Orleans tale with a black lead character? Personally, I loved it... despite having an intense dislike for Randy Newman. He actually fit this pretty well since it was New Orleans.
 

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Well other than my initial knee jerk dislike of change I really don't care about a black girl playing Ariel. Honestly I'm more upset over Will Smith being the genie and that is because he is the wrong kind of funny imo nothing to do with race.

However, I mentioned this is passing today to my wife and I have now met someone in real life that is pissed as all hell about this. When the movie came out she was the little pasty white red head girl, the movie came out when she was 2 and this was her character throughout her childhood. In a world where being a red headed child leads to you being treated like shit by your peers having a Disney character of your own was pretty great I suppose.

So yeah she is mad not because they are putting a black girl in the role but because they are taking away her character. We talked about it some more and she is cool now, it's not like they are digitally changing the old cartoon or anything. But, if they don't give the character red hair I might have to leave the state for a while I am surrounded by red headed girls and they can be... energetic in their anger.
 
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Well other than my initial knee jerk dislike of change I really don't care about a black girl playing Ariel. Honestly I'm more upset over Will Smith being the genie and that is because he is the wrong kind of funny imo nothing to do with race.

However, I mentioned this is passing today to my wife and I have now met someone in real life that is pissed as all hell about this. When the movie came out she was the little pasty white red head girl, the movie came out when she was 2 and this was her character throughout her childhood. In a world where being a red headed child leads to you being treated like shit by your peers having a Disney character of your own was pretty great I suppose.

So yeah she is mad not because they are putting a black girl in the role but because they are taking away her character. We talked about it some more and she is cool now, it's not like they are digitally changing the old cartoon or anything. But, if they don't give the character red hair I might have to leave the state for a while I am surrounded by red headed girls and they can be... energetic in their anger.

Might wanna be careful jerking it to cartoons made for little girls. :eek:

Eh, they were never gonna find another Robin Williams so they might as well go with someone quite a bit different. Which, I probably wouldn't have gone with Will Smith either (it struck me as a bit of an odd choice as well; I kinda feel like he hasn't done a good comedic role in some time is the main reason I'd be a little trepidatious, now if it was young brash Fresh Prince, that might be able to work; plus at least it wasn't Shaq haha - I actually watched Kazaam recently and, I'm not saying its good, but I didn't hate it).

I'm more upset that they're hashing out their cartoons for this awful "CGI everything!" period of film. Oh and by "upset" I mean, "don't care" since they're free to do what they want, people seem to be into these I guess so whatever. I grew up on Disney cartoons. They're fun and enjoyable even though they have a lot of issues (I will say, they do seem to represent society of the time they were made).

That's the thing, they aren't taking away her character. The Ariel she grew up with is still there. She can still watch that movie. Disney will probably still put that version of Ariel on merchandise (which they've been doing it the entire time, even though that movie came out nearly 30 years ago, they're still pushing that stuff out to this day). Hopefully she can understand the value in a little black girl being able to have the experience she did, of growing up and seeing someone like her represented in the same way. I'd say positively but I'm not entirely sure that's the case (especially when the character literally wishes she had legs just so she could marry some dude). Probably not bring up that part with the wife. :p
 
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