R9 290 or GTX780 ??

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Majcric

Majcric

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OP'er I would go with the GTX 780. You will have a wider range of aftermarket choices. IMHO, with the current pricing of the 290's it defaults the GTX 780 the better buy. It's just as fast as the 290/x variants if not slightly faster when both are overclocked.

I personally am not impressed with the Aftermarket ASUS 290 model as I was expecting better OC results. And I'll be really suprised if other AM models are much better.
I hope I'm wrong.
 
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wand3r3r

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BallaTheFeared said:
Wow not bad, well bad, but not as bad, they must not being pushing product if they're discounting that much?
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That's my thought. They never touch prices when there's demand, to the contrary they start gouging.

Personally I'm waiting for etail to drop the AMD cards back down since the coin infatuation should be easing as coins have eased back from the peaks. Then again they are still fairly profitable so I'm not sure.
 
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Fastx said:
Right now Newegg has a reference 780 TI for $619.00.

Need to just put code name "NAFYREND248" in the promo box for $619.00.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...&SID=u00000687
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So tempted right now :O

Must Resist o.o

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Wow not bad, well bad, but not as bad, they must not being pushing product if they're discounting that much?
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It's pretty obviously because everyone and their mother is opting to buy the aftermarket 780 Ti's instead
Those who were looking for reference probably purchased the more popular brands as well, like EVGA.
 
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Zotac isn't bad :|

Though the rest of the cards are at MSRP or over it, and the few I tried didn't accept the same $50 off promo code.


MSI reference is $20 below MSRP but the promo doesn't work for that one.


Weird it's so low, poor poor Zotac!
 
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BallaTheFeared said:
Zotac isn't bad :|

Though the rest of the cards are at MSRP or over it, and the few I tried didn't accept the same $50 off promo code.


MSI reference is $20 below MSRP but the promo doesn't work for that one.


Weird it's so low, poor poor Zotac!
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Notice how that particular Zotac card has exactly 0 reviews while the EVGA cards all have 19-32 reviews.

It's pretty obvious which cards the consumers are choosing o.o

Reputation counts for alot when selling a commodity like Reference 780 Ti's

On a side note, It's pretty funny that the reference Zotac card is a couple dollars cheaper than the cheapest 290x on Newegg when you include shipping cost.
Getting the Zotac 780 Ti at this price is a no-brainer if you are looking for a reference 780 Ti or a reference 290x (if you aren't mining)

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Must hold fast until Maxwell :O. I'm so tempted to buy that 780 Ti even though I shouldn't be since I have a 290x to use to game if I need to.
Hopefully G-Sync gets delayed until Maxwell's launch so I have an excuse to keep waiting :D (Talking about the factory assembled ones, not the third party assembled ones).
I'm quite fond of ROP and memory bandwidth anyways.
 
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Fastx

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Yeah not bad at all and if I had a 1440p instead of 1080p I'd probably get this card. :)
 
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BallaTheFeared said:
Zotac isn't bad :|

Though the rest of the cards are at MSRP or over it, and the few I tried didn't accept the same $50 off promo code.


MSI reference is $20 below MSRP but the promo doesn't work for that one.


Weird it's so low, poor poor Zotac!
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3 year warranty with registration, too. At that price point, the price/performance is pretty much flat vs the vanilla 780, if you don't count the missing game bundle.
 
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Fastx said:
Yeah not bad at all and if I had a 1440p instead of 1080p I'd probably get this card. :)
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Think of the power savings going this route over massively overclocked aftermarket 780s though :awe:

Could possibly make up the difference during the time you use the card.

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3 year warranty with registration, too. At that price point, the price/performance is pretty much flat vs the vanilla 780, if you don't count the missing game bundle.
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The performance per watt is also astronomical :awe:.
 
Elfear

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blackened23 said:
By the way. Let's say 1170MHz is the "typical" overclock. This GTX 780 with a 1143MHz boost is 20% faster than Titan:



Base clock is 1090MHz, Boost clock is 1143MHz:
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That 780 wasn't boosting to 1143Mhz. GPU-Z reports the advertised boost + whatever offset you give it. To get the true boost you have to add the offset to the actual in-game boost clocks. TPU didn't disclose the in-game clocks but Guru3D's card boosted to 1058Mhz in game. If you add TPU's 200Mhz offset to that you get get somewhere in the 1258Mhz range.



So the GTX 780 is 20% faster than Titan at 1143mhz as tested here.
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So you have a sample size of 1 for your conclusion? Maybe you should change your claim to "oced aftermarket 780's are 15-20% faster than the Titan in one game". Using one game to base your whole argument on doesn't work that well.

Hey look, an oced 290X is 25% faster than Titan!
 
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Elfear said:
Hey look, an oced 290X is 25% faster than Titan!
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I forgot how easy it was to downsample with Nvidia.

Do you think they used the benchmark for that?

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Dang I see it throttled right at the end, nothing v-sync wouldn't take care of!

So hard to ride a fine line with the 780 when you're riding the edge of a 116% power limit. Probably the fan that took it over, lulz, maybe I should get an extender and run the fan off the motherboard :p

Anyways actual clocks were 1280/1795, starting to get a feel for this ol girl now D:
 
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As do I, so we could reproduce their results easily.

I think trying to run this test IG would end up causing more harm than good with inconsistency. Plus it's shanty town, so my Haswell might give me an unfair awesomesause advantage.

Perhaps a 290x user can bench it 1440 @ 1200MHz.



Edit: That can't be right... I ran it, was very easy to follow..

But my stock score (1137/1500) is way too high, Ultimate right? at 1440?

Frames, Time (ms), Min, Max, Avg
5016, 81234, 50, 75, 61.748
 
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Zanovar

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You lucky ah heck,i hope he blesses mine, im still not sure 780/290 a blessing might sway me.
 
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jj109

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Thanks to balla's reminder that I can downscale in Nvidia control panel, I've been running benches against published 780 Ti results. I'm seeing that my 780 overclocked is about 3-9% over a stock 780 Ti, probably the higher end of that in some games due to the relative ROP bottleneck of the Ti. I'm sure the 780 Ti pulls more ahead in 1080p, where it can better use its 25% hardware advantage.

That $620 780 Ti is still pretty tempting.
 
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