R600 Delayed for simultaneous launch

[ronnn]

Originally posted by: apoppin

--but that doesn't stop me from *speculating* [now]

23,840 posts of silly speculation, mixed with silly trolling. Which is really the problem. Noone knows if amd is dying or doing a phoenix. Fuads posts as usual are very informative and leave both options open.

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: ronnn

Originally posted by: apoppin

--but that doesn't stop me from *speculating* [now]

23,840 posts of silly speculation, mixed with silly trolling. Which is really the problem. Noone knows if amd is dying or doing a phoenix. Fuads posts as usual are very informative and leave both options open.

at the very least i differentiate between my speculation and fact.

--and you just don't know quality

nvidia makes quality ultra high-end video cards ... so did ATi
... does

the ATF Administrator thought there was enough quality in my posts even if you can't tell
:lips:


otoh even the fanboys here recognize you as a fanboy
... just a little troll who quotes snippets of quotes out of context so as to twist their meaning.

 

[dug777]

Give it a rest folks.

This is all speculation, and all we're doing is squabbling like little kids 😉

apoppin is entirely welcome to his cast iron belief that AMD has jumped the shark and will be bankrupt before the quarter is out, everyone else is entirely welcome to believe varying shades of otherwise.


/thread.

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: dug777
Give it a rest folks.

This is all speculation, and all we're doing is squabbling like little kids 😉

apoppin is entirely welcome to his cast iron belief that AMD has jumped the shark and will be bankrupt before the quarter is out, everyone else is entirely welcome to believe varying shades of otherwise.


/thread.

speak for yourself ... junior 😛

why do you provoke with total BS ?

i do *not* believe that absolute nonsense you credit to me
:thumbsdown:

you will be very unhappy to learn that my x1950p IS running fine with my new 850w OCZ PS ... dead silent ... well if i "strain" ... maybe

so far ... so good
[for me ... bad for you as i point out your silly FUD]

and i expect to keep x1950p till i upgrade to a rig worthy of my new PS

so your *supporting nvidia theory* goes back into the sewer for a possible resurrection if i get another nvidia gpu ... which i would be very glad to do ... or AMD ... whatever

 

[dug777]

Originally posted by: apoppin

Originally posted by: dug777
Give it a rest folks.

This is all speculation, and all we're doing is squabbling like little kids 😉

apoppin is entirely welcome to his cast iron belief that AMD has jumped the shark and will be bankrupt before the quarter is out, everyone else is entirely welcome to believe varying shades of otherwise.


/thread.

speak for yourself ... junior 😛

why do you provoke with total BS ?

i do *not* believe that absolute nonsense you credit to me
:thumbsdown:

you will be very unhappy to learn that my x1950p IS running fine with my new 850w OCZ PS ... dead silent ... well if i "strain" ... maybe

so far ... so good
[for me ... bad for you as i point out your silly FUD]

and i expect to keep x1950p till i upgrade to a rig worthy of my new PS

so your *supporting nvidia theory* goes back into the sewer for a possible resurrection if i get another nvidia gpu ... which i would be very glad to do ... or AMD ... whatever

🙁

I'm not picking a fight here. I'm saying that we're all welcome to believe what we want (only time will tell as to where AMD is going), including yourself.

We're just making ourselves look silly bickering about speculation.

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: dug777

Originally posted by: apoppin

Originally posted by: dug777
Give it a rest folks.

This is all speculation, and all we're doing is squabbling like little kids 😉

apoppin is entirely welcome to his cast iron belief that AMD has jumped the shark and will be bankrupt before the quarter is out, everyone else is entirely welcome to believe varying shades of otherwise.


/thread.

speak for yourself ... junior 😛

why do you provoke with total BS ?

i do *not* believe that absolute nonsense you credit to me
:thumbsdown:

you will be very unhappy to learn that my x1950p IS running fine with my new 850w OCZ PS ... dead silent ... well if i "strain" ... maybe

so far ... so good
[for me ... bad for you as i point out your silly FUD]

and i expect to keep x1950p till i upgrade to a rig worthy of my new PS

so your *supporting nvidia theory* goes back into the sewer for a possible resurrection if i get another nvidia gpu ... which i would be very glad to do ... or AMD ... whatever

🙁

I'm not picking a fight here. I'm saying that we're all welcome to believe what we want (only time will tell as to where AMD is going), including yourself.

We're just making ourselves look silly bickering about speculation.

hold on ...

first you *provoke* me by saying i said something really [really] stupid
--which i did *not* say

then you say you aren't picking a fight

which is it?
😕

 

[dug777]

Originally posted by: apoppin

Originally posted by: dug777

Originally posted by: apoppin

Originally posted by: dug777
Give it a rest folks.

This is all speculation, and all we're doing is squabbling like little kids 😉

apoppin is entirely welcome to his cast iron belief that AMD has jumped the shark and will be bankrupt before the quarter is out, everyone else is entirely welcome to believe varying shades of otherwise.


/thread.

speak for yourself ... junior 😛

why do you provoke with total BS ?

i do *not* believe that absolute nonsense you credit to me
:thumbsdown:

you will be very unhappy to learn that my x1950p IS running fine with my new 850w OCZ PS ... dead silent ... well if i "strain" ... maybe

so far ... so good
[for me ... bad for you as i point out your silly FUD]

and i expect to keep x1950p till i upgrade to a rig worthy of my new PS

so your *supporting nvidia theory* goes back into the sewer for a possible resurrection if i get another nvidia gpu ... which i would be very glad to do ... or AMD ... whatever

🙁

I'm not picking a fight here. I'm saying that we're all welcome to believe what we want (only time will tell as to where AMD is going), including yourself.

We're just making ourselves look silly bickering about speculation.

hold on ...

first you *provoke* me by saying i said something really [really] stupid
--which i did *not* say

then you say you aren't picking a fight

which is it?
😕

You've made it clear in this thread that you think AMD is going down the gurgler, myself and others have disagreed to varying degrees.

I exaggerated a bit i'll concede 😱

 

[zoozilla]

Some things never change.....

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: dug777

Originally posted by: apoppin

Originally posted by: dug777

Originally posted by: apoppin

Originally posted by: dug777
Give it a rest folks.

This is all speculation, and all we're doing is squabbling like little kids 😉

apoppin is entirely welcome to his cast iron belief that AMD has jumped the shark and will be bankrupt before the quarter is out, everyone else is entirely welcome to believe varying shades of otherwise.


/thread.

speak for yourself ... junior 😛

why do you provoke with total BS ?

i do *not* believe that absolute nonsense you credit to me
:thumbsdown:

you will be very unhappy to learn that my x1950p IS running fine with my new 850w OCZ PS ... dead silent ... well if i "strain" ... maybe

so far ... so good
[for me ... bad for you as i point out your silly FUD]

and i expect to keep x1950p till i upgrade to a rig worthy of my new PS

so your *supporting nvidia theory* goes back into the sewer for a possible resurrection if i get another nvidia gpu ... which i would be very glad to do ... or AMD ... whatever

🙁

I'm not picking a fight here. I'm saying that we're all welcome to believe what we want (only time will tell as to where AMD is going), including yourself.

We're just making ourselves look silly bickering about speculation.

hold on ...

first you *provoke* me by saying i said something really [really] stupid
--which i did *not* say

then you say you aren't picking a fight

which is it?
😕

You've made it clear in this thread that you think AMD is going down the gurgler, myself and others have disagreed to varying degrees.

I exaggerated a bit i'll concede 😱

no ... no ... no ... no!

no wonder you think i am irrational 😛
:Q

i do *NOT* think AMD is "going down the gurgler" ... Nor in imminent danger of self-destruction ... Nor under immediate thread of takeover

where the hell do you get this? :|

--certainly not from what *i* posted

please ... stop reading what others "say" i believe

 

[Ackmed]

Originally posted by: Gstanfor

Got drafted to Iraq/Afghanistan did you? I guess you are silly enough to fight Shrub's pointless war.

I didnt get drafted anywhere. Once again, I prove you wrong though. On all account, and yet you dont admit you were wrong, or make any sort of an apology. Just more insults. Good job.

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: Ackmed

Originally posted by: Gstanfor

Got drafted to Iraq/Afghanistan did you? I guess you are silly enough to fight Shrub's pointless war.

I didnt get drafted anywhere. Once again, I prove you wrong though. On all account, and yet you dont admit you were wrong, or make any sort of an apology. Just more insults. Good job.

you didn't give him a chance ... you just now replied 😛

and what DID happen?
😕

 

[Gstanfor]

Well short of being stuff in the middle of a desert/wasteland, I can't think of too many reasons why you would need to go 3 weeks without bathing or not be able to get 'net access (especially if you are somewhere on continental North America - or even South America).

Why don't you enlighten us?

It seems to me you are perfectly capable of getting online to defend yourself, but you haven't shown the same interest in getting online to defend your precious ATi lately, hence the remarks.

 

[ronnn]

If you guys can't imagine 3 weeks without internet and defending your avatar - - (I am at a loss for words) :beer:

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: ronnn
If you guys can't imagine 3 weeks without internet and defending your avatar - - (I am at a loss for words) :beer:

doubtful you could keep your rude insults to yourself for 3 days, let alone a single week

 

[imported_thefonz]

Originally posted by: Gstanfor
Well short of being stuff in the middle of a desert/wasteland, I can't think of too many reasons why you would need to go 3 weeks without bathing or not be able to get 'net access (especially if you are somewhere on continental North America - or even South America).

Why don't you enlighten us?

It seems to me you are perfectly capable of getting online to defend yourself, but you haven't shown the same interest in getting online to defend your precious ATi lately, hence the remarks.

Maybe most of us don't think a video card forum is a court room trial, and that they should have to "defend" company's based on your "labeled" undying loyalty to that said company.

The consumer loyalty on this forum is disgusting and almost cult like, and the only one that benefits is the cult leader, such as nvidia or ati.

My point is, people have better things to do in there free time then defend or promote company's.
Once you take a step back you start to realize how retarded all this arguing is.

 

[Wreckage]

Baby you know, you're the one for me
And all that I want to be is...

You and me... and her, simultaneous
You and me... and you and you, simultaneous
Simultaneous lovin' baby, two or three...
Simultaneous ooh, come on

Have an open mind, blow my trigger down
Gimme the last cold turkey blast, make it fast
Take my ass to town

Have an open mind, send my cares away
Ring my bell you fat piggy whale, what the hell Today's your lucky day

You and me... and her, simultaneous
You and me... and Wynona Rider, simultaneous
Simultaneous lovin' baby, two or three...
Simultaneous, ooh, come on

Have an open mind, is a normal thing to do
Don't be rude, just get nude
Oh, you're being rude, I would do it for you
Baby please have an open mind, you're the only one I love
These girls you see, baby they don't mean anything, let's all just get in the tub
You and me... and her too, simultaneous
You and me... and your momma and your sister
Simultaneous lovin' baby, two or three...
Simultaneous oww, come on

Everybody in the pool!

Have an open mind, don't be so mean to me
Call your sister and your mother and your aunt
It's every man's fantasy
Have an open... woa, baby, put that knife away
Don't be mad, I'll take you back, just relax, we can make love your way
I'm talking about

You and me... and some flowers and some wine, instantaneous
You and me... and Whitney Houston (on the radio, babe, on the radio)
Some candles and some good feelings
Just the two of us
Oh, fudge it
Now, I'm talking about

You and me... and her and her and her, simultaneous
You and me... and women in the house, simultaneous
Three and seven, make it a baker's dozen
See the ladies in the house clap your hands
Now that'd be a party, ladies

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: thefonz

Originally posted by: Gstanfor
Well short of being stuff in the middle of a desert/wasteland, I can't think of too many reasons why you would need to go 3 weeks without bathing or not be able to get 'net access (especially if you are somewhere on continental North America - or even South America).

Why don't you enlighten us?

It seems to me you are perfectly capable of getting online to defend yourself, but you haven't shown the same interest in getting online to defend your precious ATi lately, hence the remarks.

Maybe most of us don't think a video card forum is a court room trial, and that they should have to "defend" company's based on your "labeled" undying loyalty to that said company.

The consumer loyalty on this forum is disgusting and almost cult like, and the only one that benefits is the cult leader, such as nvidia or ati.

My point is, people have better things to do in there free time then defend or promote company's.
Once you take a step back you start to realize how retarded all this arguing is.

"most of us"? "people"?

you have rudely *attacked* anyone who dares to disagree with your opinion of why r600 is delayed in this thread

take your own 'step back'

 

[imported_thefonz]

Originally posted by: apoppin

Originally posted by: thefonz

Originally posted by: Gstanfor
Well short of being stuff in the middle of a desert/wasteland, I can't think of too many reasons why you would need to go 3 weeks without bathing or not be able to get 'net access (especially if you are somewhere on continental North America - or even South America).

Why don't you enlighten us?

It seems to me you are perfectly capable of getting online to defend yourself, but you haven't shown the same interest in getting online to defend your precious ATi lately, hence the remarks.

Maybe most of us don't think a video card forum is a court room trial, and that they should have to "defend" company's based on your "labeled" undying loyalty to that said company.

The consumer loyalty on this forum is disgusting and almost cult like, and the only one that benefits is the cult leader, such as nvidia or ati.

My point is, people have better things to do in there free time then defend or promote company's.
Once you take a step back you start to realize how retarded all this arguing is.

"most of us"? "people"?

you have rudely *attacked* anyone who dares to disagree with your opinion of why r600 is delayed in this thread

take your own 'step back'

already did, enjoy arguing with yourself appopin.

EDIT: also i'd like to say, if you re read my posts in this thread , i did not rudely attack anyone.

 

[apoppin]

just me

😛

 

[Acanthus]

Hah, the video forums sucks.

$266 Quad cores and an non competitive R600 = serious problem for AMD.

 

[Ackmed]

Originally posted by: apoppin


you didn't give him a chance ... you just now replied 😛

and what DID happen?
😕

He had the opportunity in his last post. But instead, he just lashed out again. I didnt post anything towards him, yet again he tries to insult me (and the Pres), and act as if I havent been posting because the R600 is delayed.

Originally posted by: Gstanfor
Well short of being stuff in the middle of a desert/wasteland, I can't think of too many reasons why you would need to go 3 weeks without bathing or not be able to get 'net access (especially if you are somewhere on continental North America - or even South America).

Why don't you enlighten us?

It seems to me you are perfectly capable of getting online to defend yourself, but you haven't shown the same interest in getting online to defend your precious ATi lately, hence the remarks.

I didnt say I wasnt in the middle of a desert. I said I wasnt drafted. You can leave your anti-war/pres/government comments out of this thread, there is no need for them here.

I am a United States Marine. I have not had access to the net, like I did when I was home. With training, and school, I dont have much time. There was a 11 week or so stretch where I didnt have any. Was home for a little over a week, and gone again Three weeks again with zero access. I now have access, but I dont use it much. I dont have internet in my barracks, have to bring my laptop to the rec center, where we have free access. Its just 100 yards or so, not too far. But I dont come here every day, and I certainly dont check anand every chance I get.

I dont have to defend myself to you, or anyone else. You were wrong on multiple accounts, yet havent even had the common decency to say you were wrong, or make any sort of apology. Instead you just continue to insult. I dont come here to "defend my precious ATI". Im a Marine defending something real.

 

[apoppin]

i am not *defending* anyone

or attacking anyone

just "curious"

and it is cool to hear your story
:thumbsup:

good luck!

thanks

 

[5150Joker]

Originally posted by: Gstanfor

Originally posted by: Ackmed

Originally posted by: Gstanfor
I think the mere fact that ackmed, 5150joker and most of the other more rabid fanatics have been conspicously absent/silent in the forum (if you really believe ackmed can't get 'net access to partake in discsussion I've a bridge i'd like to sell you) tells you everything you need to know.

Why do you always insist on name calling? And no, I couldnt get net access for some time. I dont care if you believe me or not. I get on only a few times a week. I wasnt able to get on at all for a few months, and then for a few weeks after that. I also didnt take a shower for about 3 weeks straight. Again, I dont care if you believe me or not. I have nothing to hide from.

What do you want me to say? The R600 delay sucks, plain and simple. NV really stepped up to the plate as far as I can tell with the quality of AF, and a few other things that were big improvements over the 7x series. The 8x series is much better in every area, other than the high price it still demands. Where as the 7x dropped in price fast, but it also had competition. The ball is clearly in ATI/AMDs court. While the 8800 series isnt perfect (drivers come to mind), there is no single performance crown debate right now.

If I was going to buy a card right now, it would be an 8800GTX, easy choice to me. Perhaps even two. I buy whatever I think is best, no matter what brand. I guarantee I buy more cards than you do, and have used far more than you. But go ahead and keep slinging mud with name calling, and acting as if you're perfect. If I had a pizza, Id have dinner and a show reading your posts.

Got drafted to Iraq/Afghanistan did you? I guess you are silly enough to fight Shrub's pointless war.

That's just crossing the line. Just because you're a spineless coward doesn't mean you should belittle others that are serving our country.

 

[josh6079]

It seems to me you are perfectly capable of getting online to defend yourself, but you haven't shown the same interest in getting online to defend your precious ATi lately, hence the remarks.

And this makes you upset why?

If he's "defending" ATi, you get your panties in a bunch.

If he's "defending" himself, you get your panties in a bunch.

By the same logic - someone keeping silent because their company is doing bad but only posting when their company is doing well - Crusader must love ATi right now because I haven't seen a post from him in a while.

The reality is, people have lives, you should get one too.

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: 5150Joker

Originally posted by: Gstanfor

Originally posted by: Ackmed

Originally posted by: Gstanfor
I think the mere fact that ackmed, 5150joker and most of the other more rabid fanatics have been conspicously absent/silent in the forum (if you really believe ackmed can't get 'net access to partake in discsussion I've a bridge i'd like to sell you) tells you everything you need to know.

Why do you always insist on name calling? And no, I couldnt get net access for some time. I dont care if you believe me or not. I get on only a few times a week. I wasnt able to get on at all for a few months, and then for a few weeks after that. I also didnt take a shower for about 3 weeks straight. Again, I dont care if you believe me or not. I have nothing to hide from.

What do you want me to say? The R600 delay sucks, plain and simple. NV really stepped up to the plate as far as I can tell with the quality of AF, and a few other things that were big improvements over the 7x series. The 8x series is much better in every area, other than the high price it still demands. Where as the 7x dropped in price fast, but it also had competition. The ball is clearly in ATI/AMDs court. While the 8800 series isnt perfect (drivers come to mind), there is no single performance crown debate right now.

If I was going to buy a card right now, it would be an 8800GTX, easy choice to me. Perhaps even two. I buy whatever I think is best, no matter what brand. I guarantee I buy more cards than you do, and have used far more than you. But go ahead and keep slinging mud with name calling, and acting as if you're perfect. If I had a pizza, Id have dinner and a show reading your posts.

Got drafted to Iraq/Afghanistan did you? I guess you are silly enough to fight Shrub's pointless war.

That's just crossing the line. Just because you're a spineless coward doesn't mean you should belittle others that are serving our country.

he's from Australia, dude

no "our country"

95% of the world doesn't agree with US on the Iraq occupation

just the facts 😉

*no matter what*

it should not get PERSONAL