3400lbs for a hatch is a porker... nice car though... plus not as many people driving them as G35s. but damn that curb weight. :Q
Demon-Xanth
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R32==almost as heavy as my truck, about the same HP, less torque, more drivetrain loss. An F'ING COMPACT!
Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
G35 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pinto > R32
And by the way, Infiniti = Nissan, dumbass, not Honda.
- M4H
no chit sherlock. i said honda aka "if ur a rice burner with a fart-mufler that gets a car for looks and the typical "oh my my car looks coooooool" then get a g35"
tw@t
Aharami
Lifer
- Aug 31, 2001
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read again. i never said that the potential of the g35 is less than that of the r32. actually i know nothing of the potential of the g35...but i will tell you that it is possible to make that r32 into a 500 whp beast and still keep it as a daily driver.
personally, i'm more inclined toward the r32 just cuz that car is daaaamn sexy...and the exhaust note...wooooooah :shocked:
vroooooom
Originally posted by: hellfreeze
Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
G35 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pinto > R32
And by the way, Infiniti = Nissan, dumbass, not Honda.
- M4H
no chit sherlock. i said honda aka "if ur a rice burner with a fart-mufler that gets a car for looks and the typical "oh my my car looks coooooool" then get a g35"
tw@t
So, judging by your 31337 A0L k1dd1e $k1llZ, you drive a riced-out 87 Civic Hatch. :roll:
Given that they both weigh about the same, both drive nicely, and are the same price (Free) - why not get the one that obviously looks much better?
- M4H
oh yeah, i'm an 1337 uber h@x0r. pffffOriginally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Originally posted by: hellfreeze
Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
G35 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pinto > R32
And by the way, Infiniti = Nissan, dumbass, not Honda.
- M4H
no chit sherlock. i said honda aka "if ur a rice burner with a fart-mufler that gets a car for looks and the typical "oh my my car looks coooooool" then get a g35"
tw@t
So, judging by your 31337 A0L k1dd1e $k1llZ, you drive a riced-out 87 Civic Hatch. :roll:
Given that they both weigh about the same, both drive nicely, and are the same price (Free) - why not get the one that obviously looks much better?
- M4H
why? cuz the vr6 engine stock can withstand 500hp i think, with stock internals. the tranny alone is rated for 400hp. VW's are always under-rated. that's why i say the R32. sure, it might be heavier. but it's a lot more solid and the stock engine/drivetrain has a lot more potentional.
i'll give u that the g35 looks good. but i can't decent which is better
Originally posted by: vr6
looking at my sn, you can probably guess what i am going to pick
R32 is awd, so you can drive it anytime.
the G is rwd, that means no driving in the snow or heavy rain.
If i had another car, i would pick the G, but if this was my only car, then R32.
Faster != better.
Man you must be an awfull driver if you can't drive a RWD car in heavy rain. Snow can be a little tricky but with good snow tires and all the fancy traction controll crap its not that bad.
Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Well, until VW Build Quality kicks in, that is.
Thread with poll re looks
- M4H
VW doesn't have engine/drivetrain problems, just minor ones of rear passenger windows falling down.
And the interior of the R32 is infinitely better than the crappy American plastic style of the G35/350Z.
No way you could've smoked a G35 unless it was 1) off the line, 2) the G35 was auto, 3) the driver was an idiot, or 4) he didn't know you were racing.
Especially at high speeds when drivetrain losses start showing up.
The R32 engine compartment is cramped, so doing any work will be hard. Also, Infinity >>> VW, so there's no way the R32 would pull more chicks. Maybe gay guys who get a stiffy from the exhaust.
Given two identical drivers with identical traction control systems, the car with AWD will always be better for snow/rain/ice than a RWD one.Originally posted by: thedarkwolf
Man you must be an awfull driver if you can't drive a RWD car in heavy rain. Snow can be a little tricky but with good snow tires and all the fancy traction controll crap its not that bad.Originally posted by: vr6
looking at my sn, you can probably guess what i am going to pick
R32 is awd, so you can drive it anytime.
the G is rwd, that means no driving in the snow or heavy rain.
If i had another car, i would pick the G, but if this was my only car, then R32.
Faster != better.
Anyone who says otherwise is an idiot. Even you with your super duper 1337 driving skeelz will do better in an AWD vehicle in the snow than you will in a RWD one.
heh. that is a good question. i'm sure there are other turbos out there for the R32. but this one makes it in essence a "straight from the factory turbo".
Originally posted by: TuffGuy
Given two identical drivers with identical traction control systems, the car with AWD will always be better for snow/rain/ice than a RWD one.Originally posted by: thedarkwolf
Man you must be an awfull driver if you can't drive a RWD car in heavy rain. Snow can be a little tricky but with good snow tires and all the fancy traction controll crap its not that bad.Originally posted by: vr6
looking at my sn, you can probably guess what i am going to pick
R32 is awd, so you can drive it anytime.
the G is rwd, that means no driving in the snow or heavy rain.
If i had another car, i would pick the G, but if this was my only car, then R32.
Faster != better.
Anyone who says otherwise is an idiot. Even you with your super duper 1337 driving skeelz will do better in an AWD vehicle in the snow than you will in a RWD one.
Unless you race daily in the rain AWD isn't that big of an advantage. For normal driving RWD vs AWD in the rain is pretty much the same. In snow of coarse AWD is better but since gourmettea lives in Santa Monica Ca I doubt that going to come up very often. Its not like they guy is planning to enter snow rallys or something.
Maybe i should word it differently.
When i mean heavy rain i mean torrential downpour in thunderstorm. Given that the G has good amount of hp/tourque, it is not the ideal car to be driving under those weather conditions.
Me a horrible driver? Maybe, but i have a FWD, so it isn't a problem.
I also biased toward the R32. Why? cause my brother has a R32 and i have a Jetta vr6.
When i mean heavy rain i mean torrential downpour in thunderstorm. Given that the G has good amount of hp/tourque, it is not the ideal car to be driving under those weather conditions.
Me a horrible driver? Maybe, but i have a FWD, so it isn't a problem.
I also biased toward the R32. Why? cause my brother has a R32 and i have a Jetta vr6.
Originally posted by: thedarkwolf
Originally posted by: TuffGuy
Given two identical drivers with identical traction control systems, the car with AWD will always be better for snow/rain/ice than a RWD one.Originally posted by: thedarkwolf
Man you must be an awfull driver if you can't drive a RWD car in heavy rain. Snow can be a little tricky but with good snow tires and all the fancy traction controll crap its not that bad.Originally posted by: vr6
looking at my sn, you can probably guess what i am going to pick
R32 is awd, so you can drive it anytime.
the G is rwd, that means no driving in the snow or heavy rain.
If i had another car, i would pick the G, but if this was my only car, then R32.
Faster != better.
Anyone who says otherwise is an idiot. Even you with your super duper 1337 driving skeelz will do better in an AWD vehicle in the snow than you will in a RWD one.
Unless you race daily in the rain AWD isn't that big of an advantage. For normal driving RWD vs AWD in the rain is pretty much the same. In snow of coarse AWD is better but since gourmettea lives in Santa Monica Ca I doubt that going to come up very often. Its not like they guy is planning to enter snow rallys or something.
so ur trying to say taking left/right turns, as well as big bends in the freeway is the same with RWD as it is with AWD? i'd care to differ, as i have seen AWD do things that would otherwise make me grab the "oh-chit handles" on any other car
Originally posted by: hellfreeze
Originally posted by: thedarkwolf
Originally posted by: TuffGuy
Given two identical drivers with identical traction control systems, the car with AWD will always be better for snow/rain/ice than a RWD one.Originally posted by: thedarkwolf
Man you must be an awfull driver if you can't drive a RWD car in heavy rain. Snow can be a little tricky but with good snow tires and all the fancy traction controll crap its not that bad.Originally posted by: vr6
looking at my sn, you can probably guess what i am going to pick
R32 is awd, so you can drive it anytime.
the G is rwd, that means no driving in the snow or heavy rain.
If i had another car, i would pick the G, but if this was my only car, then R32.
Faster != better.
Anyone who says otherwise is an idiot. Even you with your super duper 1337 driving skeelz will do better in an AWD vehicle in the snow than you will in a RWD one.
Unless you race daily in the rain AWD isn't that big of an advantage. For normal driving RWD vs AWD in the rain is pretty much the same. In snow of coarse AWD is better but since gourmettea lives in Santa Monica Ca I doubt that going to come up very often. Its not like they guy is planning to enter snow rallys or something.
so ur trying to say taking left/right turns, as well as big bends in the freeway is the same with RWD as it is with AWD? i'd care to differ, as i have seen AWD do things that would otherwise make me grab the "oh-chit handles" on any other car
big bends on freeways?
Originally posted by: hellfreeze
Originally posted by: thedarkwolf
Originally posted by: TuffGuy
Given two identical drivers with identical traction control systems, the car with AWD will always be better for snow/rain/ice than a RWD one.Originally posted by: thedarkwolf
Man you must be an awfull driver if you can't drive a RWD car in heavy rain. Snow can be a little tricky but with good snow tires and all the fancy traction controll crap its not that bad.Originally posted by: vr6
looking at my sn, you can probably guess what i am going to pick
R32 is awd, so you can drive it anytime.
the G is rwd, that means no driving in the snow or heavy rain.
If i had another car, i would pick the G, but if this was my only car, then R32.
Faster != better.
Anyone who says otherwise is an idiot. Even you with your super duper 1337 driving skeelz will do better in an AWD vehicle in the snow than you will in a RWD one.
Unless you race daily in the rain AWD isn't that big of an advantage. For normal driving RWD vs AWD in the rain is pretty much the same. In snow of coarse AWD is better but since gourmettea lives in Santa Monica Ca I doubt that going to come up very often. Its not like they guy is planning to enter snow rallys or something.
so ur trying to say taking left/right turns, as well as big bends in the freeway is the same with RWD as it is with AWD? i'd care to differ, as i have seen AWD do things that would otherwise make me grab the "oh-chit handles" on any other car
NO I SAID UNLESS YOU WANT TO DRIVE LIKE A MANIAC IN THE RAIN AWD AND RWD ARE PRETTY MUCH THE SAME WHILE IN THE RAIN. As for the other thing that has more to do with car setup then just being AWD. I certainly wouldn't say my uncle's AMC Eagle AWD or my parent's AWD olds bravada handles awsome.
Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Well, until VW Build Quality kicks in, that is.
Thread with poll re looks
- M4H
Luckily the R32 is built over in Europe and NOT Mexico like its Golf counterpart.
pasadena fwy. sunset blvd. mulholland hwy. sepulveda blvd.Originally posted by: bR
big bends on freeways?Originally posted by: hellfreeze
so ur trying to say taking left/right turns, as well as big bends in the freeway is the same with RWD as it is with AWD? i'd care to differ, as i have seen AWD do things that would otherwise make me grab the "oh-chit handles" on any other carOriginally posted by: thedarkwolf
Unless you race daily in the rain AWD isn't that big of an advantage. For normal driving RWD vs AWD in the rain is pretty much the same. In snow of coarse AWD is better but since gourmettea lives in Santa Monica Ca I doubt that going to come up very often. Its not like they guy is planning to enter snow rallys or something.Originally posted by: TuffGuy
Given two identical drivers with identical traction control systems, the car with AWD will always be better for snow/rain/ice than a RWD one.Originally posted by: thedarkwolf
Man you must be an awfull driver if you can't drive a RWD car in heavy rain. Snow can be a little tricky but with good snow tires and all the fancy traction controll crap its not that bad.Originally posted by: vr6
looking at my sn, you can probably guess what i am going to pick
R32 is awd, so you can drive it anytime.
the G is rwd, that means no driving in the snow or heavy rain.
If i had another car, i would pick the G, but if this was my only car, then R32.
Faster != better.
Anyone who says otherwise is an idiot. Even you with your super duper 1337 driving skeelz will do better in an AWD vehicle in the snow than you will in a RWD one.
Update: Just got back from a back to back test drive of both R32 and G35
I am still undecided. AHhhhhhhhhhhhhhh...........
INTERIOR G35>R32
G35 interior is more classy looks wise. More comfortable seats and creature comforts.
R32 very nice interior, well built however no power seats. More no-nonsense functional
TECHNICAL STUFF AND FUN OF DRIVING
R32>G35
Acceleration....negligible difference...both very quick....R32 better torque....Unless you're at a track with a timer probably not much of a difference...R32 slight edge in engin dept...more usable power and the stock exaust sounds SWEET!
Cornering...the edge would go to the R32 IMO due to the smaller exterior...G35 you can feel the size of the car...R32 you can feel the weight more..they both weigh 3400lbs....little hefty compared to my wife's cooper S...damn that cooper spoiled me!...I guess anything besides a shopping cart would be heavier....
The G35 clutch is heavier and so is the shifting. That would be my biggest gripe bout the r32. VERY VERY LIGHT AND SENSITIVE CLUTCH and SHIFTING LIL LOOSE and Light. g35 clutch is a little heavier but still the cooper would pwn them both in this dept. I like a heavy clutch and weight on my gearbox.
Exterior (subject to individual opinion)
G35 > R32
G35 more professional
R32 more 2fast2 furious sleeper version
Cost + wait time for the car I want + negotiation
R32>G35
R32 not selling so well so the sales people are more motivated.
G35 5-7K more than R32
Now I'm thinking about testing a RX-8, but that car is pretty ugly IMO....ohhh mazda why did you kill the RX-7??...now that i can afford one you offer the RX-8!!! lame....
Still a toss up....
I am still undecided. AHhhhhhhhhhhhhhh...........
INTERIOR G35>R32
G35 interior is more classy looks wise. More comfortable seats and creature comforts.
R32 very nice interior, well built however no power seats. More no-nonsense functional
TECHNICAL STUFF AND FUN OF DRIVING
R32>G35
Acceleration....negligible difference...both very quick....R32 better torque....Unless you're at a track with a timer probably not much of a difference...R32 slight edge in engin dept...more usable power and the stock exaust sounds SWEET!
Cornering...the edge would go to the R32 IMO due to the smaller exterior...G35 you can feel the size of the car...R32 you can feel the weight more..they both weigh 3400lbs....little hefty compared to my wife's cooper S...damn that cooper spoiled me!...I guess anything besides a shopping cart would be heavier....
The G35 clutch is heavier and so is the shifting. That would be my biggest gripe bout the r32. VERY VERY LIGHT AND SENSITIVE CLUTCH and SHIFTING LIL LOOSE and Light. g35 clutch is a little heavier but still the cooper would pwn them both in this dept. I like a heavy clutch and weight on my gearbox.
Exterior (subject to individual opinion)
G35 > R32
G35 more professional
R32 more 2fast2 furious sleeper version
Cost + wait time for the car I want + negotiation
R32>G35
R32 not selling so well so the sales people are more motivated.
G35 5-7K more than R32
Now I'm thinking about testing a RX-8, but that car is pretty ugly IMO....ohhh mazda why did you kill the RX-7??...now that i can afford one you offer the RX-8!!! lame....
Still a toss up....
Originally posted by: bR
You could still get an RX-7...
Now that car I would take over any of the cars mentioned so far.
Me too if it was new....but I don't want a used car and the car allowance is only good for cars that are less than 5 years old...
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