Originally posted by: wyvrn
Because the Maxell is not a sham, like the Heisman, and they actually look at how the player contributed to his team and not just the W/L record.
Originally posted by: wyvrn
Because the Maxell is not a sham, like the Heisman, and they actually look at how the player contributed to his team and not just the W/L record.
Originally posted by: HardcoreRobot
they need to vote these things after the bowl games
Originally posted by: drum
Originally posted by: HardcoreRobot
they need to vote these things after the bowl games
smith is winning the heisman because he owned Michigan in the National Championship game.
Originally posted by: boggsie
Originally posted by: wyvrn
Because the Maxell is not a sham, like the Heisman, and they actually look at how the player contributed to his team and not just the W/L record.
Please, continue; I am not familiar with this thing they call, The Maxwell.
I posed the question, because it seems incredulous that the Heisman is going to so lopsided and yet, Quinn won the Maxwell.
Are the two trying to identify unique contributions?
Originally posted by: tfinch2
Originally posted by: wyvrn
Because the Maxell is not a sham, like the Heisman, and they actually look at how the player contributed to his team and not just the W/L record.
LOL, so you're saying the Buckeyes would have been better without Smith than ND would have been without Quinn?
Quinn might as well have been absent in all their big games this year, and the games he actually did play well in were cupcake city. Quinn is one of the most overrated players in college football history.
Originally posted by: tfinch2
Originally posted by: wyvrn
Because the Maxell is not a sham, like the Heisman, and they actually look at how the player contributed to his team and not just the W/L record.
LOL, so you're saying the Buckeyes would have been better without Smith than ND would have been without Quinn?
Quinn might as well have been absent in all their big games this year, and the games he actually did play well in were cupcake city. Quinn is one of the most overrated players in college football history.
Originally posted by: wyvrn
Originally posted by: tfinch2
Originally posted by: wyvrn
Because the Maxell is not a sham, like the Heisman, and they actually look at how the player contributed to his team and not just the W/L record.
LOL, so you're saying the Buckeyes would have been better without Smith than ND would have been without Quinn?
Quinn might as well have been absent in all their big games this year, and the games he actually did play well in were cupcake city. Quinn is one of the most overrated players in college football history.
Nope I think you have it backwards. Look at the talent ND has, especially juniors and seniors. Quinn elevated a very mediocre team, while Smith has much superior talent around him. There are a few good ND players, but their overall talent level is pretty low and Quinn and Weis are the only reasons why ND even cracked the top ten this year.
Originally posted by: wyvrn
Originally posted by: tfinch2
Originally posted by: wyvrn
Because the Maxell is not a sham, like the Heisman, and they actually look at how the player contributed to his team and not just the W/L record.
LOL, so you're saying the Buckeyes would have been better without Smith than ND would have been without Quinn?
Quinn might as well have been absent in all their big games this year, and the games he actually did play well in were cupcake city. Quinn is one of the most overrated players in college football history.
Nope I think you have it backwards. Look at the talent ND has, especially juniors and seniors. Quinn elevated a very mediocre team, while Smith has much superior talent around him. There are a few good ND players, but their overall talent level is pretty low and Quinn and Weis are the only reasons why ND even cracked the top ten this year.
