Quinn wins Maxwell Trophy

boggsie

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So, if the ballot for the Heisman trophy is as lopsided as is being predicted, how in the world did Quinn get awarded the Maxell.

Are the folks voting on the Maxwell simply loaded up on ND alumni?
 

nycxandy

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Who cares. There are so many college awards. The only one that matters is the Heisman.
 

wyvrn

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Because the Maxell is not a sham, like the Heisman, and they actually look at how the player contributed to his team and not just the W/L record.
 

tfinch2

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Originally posted by: wyvrn
Because the Maxell is not a sham, like the Heisman, and they actually look at how the player contributed to his team and not just the W/L record.

LOL, so you're saying the Buckeyes would have been better without Smith than ND would have been without Quinn?

Quinn might as well have been absent in all their big games this year, and the games he actually did play well in were cupcake city. Quinn is one of the most overrated players in college football history.
 

boggsie

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Originally posted by: wyvrn
Because the Maxell is not a sham, like the Heisman, and they actually look at how the player contributed to his team and not just the W/L record.

Please, continue; I am not familiar with this thing they call, The Maxwell.

I posed the question, because it seems incredulous that the Heisman is going to so lopsided and yet, Quinn won the Maxwell.

Are the two trying to identify unique contributions?
 

bignateyk

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Because we havnt gotten our dose of Notre Dame hype for the week. They needed something to rehype them so the media has something to talk about other than how much they are gonna get anally raped in their bowl game like they do every year.
 

drum

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Originally posted by: HardcoreRobot
they need to vote these things after the bowl games

smith is winning the heisman because he owned Michigan in the National Championship game.
 

dbk

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I think Quinn will be a much better QB in the pros. Is Troy Smith going to play QB for sure in the NFL?
 

wyvrn

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Originally posted by: boggsie
Originally posted by: wyvrn
Because the Maxell is not a sham, like the Heisman, and they actually look at how the player contributed to his team and not just the W/L record.

Please, continue; I am not familiar with this thing they call, The Maxwell.

I posed the question, because it seems incredulous that the Heisman is going to so lopsided and yet, Quinn won the Maxwell.

Are the two trying to identify unique contributions?

The Heisman is not the only trophy, just the one that casual football fans know. There are other awards, and generally they are less political than the Heisman and can feel free to pick the best player at that position instead of someone on the #1 team in the country.
 

wyvrn

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Originally posted by: tfinch2
Originally posted by: wyvrn
Because the Maxell is not a sham, like the Heisman, and they actually look at how the player contributed to his team and not just the W/L record.

LOL, so you're saying the Buckeyes would have been better without Smith than ND would have been without Quinn?

Quinn might as well have been absent in all their big games this year, and the games he actually did play well in were cupcake city. Quinn is one of the most overrated players in college football history.

Nope I think you have it backwards. Look at the talent ND has, especially juniors and seniors. Quinn elevated a very mediocre team, while Smith has much superior talent around him. There are a few good ND players, but their overall talent level is pretty low and Quinn and Weis are the only reasons why ND even cracked the top ten this year.
 

snoopdoug1

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Originally posted by: tfinch2
Originally posted by: wyvrn
Because the Maxell is not a sham, like the Heisman, and they actually look at how the player contributed to his team and not just the W/L record.

LOL, so you're saying the Buckeyes would have been better without Smith than ND would have been without Quinn?

Quinn might as well have been absent in all their big games this year, and the games he actually did play well in were cupcake city. Quinn is one of the most overrated players in college football history.

couldn't have said it better myself. We've got a guy at work from ND, and it was funny to hear the excuses he gave after ND lost :)
 

tfinch2

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Originally posted by: wyvrn
Originally posted by: tfinch2
Originally posted by: wyvrn
Because the Maxell is not a sham, like the Heisman, and they actually look at how the player contributed to his team and not just the W/L record.

LOL, so you're saying the Buckeyes would have been better without Smith than ND would have been without Quinn?

Quinn might as well have been absent in all their big games this year, and the games he actually did play well in were cupcake city. Quinn is one of the most overrated players in college football history.

Nope I think you have it backwards. Look at the talent ND has, especially juniors and seniors. Quinn elevated a very mediocre team, while Smith has much superior talent around him. There are a few good ND players, but their overall talent level is pretty low and Quinn and Weis are the only reasons why ND even cracked the top ten this year.

You're missing the point. Quinn has been a non-factor in all of ND's games against good teams.

Michigan - 3 INTs
USC - 48% completion percentage

LSU is going to pummel this clown.
 
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Originally posted by: wyvrn
Originally posted by: tfinch2
Originally posted by: wyvrn
Because the Maxell is not a sham, like the Heisman, and they actually look at how the player contributed to his team and not just the W/L record.

LOL, so you're saying the Buckeyes would have been better without Smith than ND would have been without Quinn?

Quinn might as well have been absent in all their big games this year, and the games he actually did play well in were cupcake city. Quinn is one of the most overrated players in college football history.

Nope I think you have it backwards. Look at the talent ND has, especially juniors and seniors. Quinn elevated a very mediocre team, while Smith has much superior talent around him. There are a few good ND players, but their overall talent level is pretty low and Quinn and Weis are the only reasons why ND even cracked the top ten this year.

ND still sucks