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shadow9d9

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Originally posted by: OILFIELDTRASH
I have witnessed and felt many instances where I felt God was there.

Humans are known to be very very wrong about feelings. Especially if you are looking to make a connection. our brain rationalizes the difference.
 

BeauJangles

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Originally posted by: OILFIELDTRASH
I want to know how God created this world. I am not interested in this or that phenomenon, in the spectrum of this or that element. I want to know his thoughts. The rest are details. (The Expanded Quotable Einstein, Princeton University Press, 2000 p.202)
Albert Einstein

On whether he accepted the historical existence of Christ: "Unquestionably! No one can read the Gospels without feeling the actual presence of Jesus. His personality pulsates in every word. No myth is filled with such life."


On how he feels about atheist efforts to claim him as an ally: "There are people who say there is no God, but what makes me really angry is that they quote me for support of such views."

booyah

shall I continue?

Continue with what? You're basically arguing that because some guy believed in god, we should all believe. Your argument sucks.
 

moshquerade

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Originally posted by: NSFW
Could you please give me one scientific fact that proves God doesn't exist?

excellent question.

what cannot be proved and yet cannot be disproved may actually exist.
 
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Originally posted by: NSFW
Could you please give me one scientific fact that proves God doesn't exist?

Just as many as you could give me that pink unicorns, the flying teapot or the flying spaghetti monster doesn't exist.

Now a reasonable man won't exclude any possibility but won't accept anything without reasonable evidence to support it.

Thus, the onus is on the one who lays forth the argument that something exists.

I mean, you don't think the flying teapot is read, do you? And if i claimed that it was wouldn't it be up to me to prove that it is rather than you trying to disprove something you cannot possibly disprove, if you manage, i'll just move the goalposts, just like Christianity has done for 2k years.
 

Praxis1452

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Originally posted by: NSFW
Could you please give me one scientific fact that proves God doesn't exist?

Perhaps if you could define god physically then it may be an answerable question. Science is also not just about the facts you seem to require. It's about evidence, and how much there is for a particular viewpoint compared to others.
 

magomago

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Originally posted by: shadow9d9
Originally posted by: OILFIELDTRASH
I have witnessed and felt many instances where I felt God was there.

Humans are known to be very very wrong about feelings. Especially if you are looking to make a connection. our brain rationalizes the difference.

Yup, we seek to make meaning in our lives around us. So 'this can't be a coincidence' simply doesn't work for me because i know that most of the time is IS A coincidence.

However I do believe that we have an innate desire to think about the idea of 'God/Force'. However its impossible to prove if it is just a coincidence, or if it is actually built into us by God. Again, its a question about God and you can't prove/disprove the existance of God
 
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Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: NSFW
Could you please give me one scientific fact that proves God doesn't exist?

excellent question.

what cannot be proved and yet cannot be disproved may actually exist.

Could you please provide me evidence that an invisible immaterial unicorn does not reside in your cooch and controlls the universe?

Go ahead and try to disprove it, it may actually exist, right?
 

magomago

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Sep 28, 2002
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Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield
Originally posted by: NSFW
Could you please give me one scientific fact that proves God doesn't exist?

Just as many as you could give me that pink unicorns, the flying teapot or the flying spaghetti monster doesn't exist.

Now a reasonable man won't exclude any possibility but won't accept anything without reasonable evidence to support it.

Thus, the onus is on the one who lays forth the argument that something exists.

I mean, you don't think the flying teapot is read, do you? And if i claimed that it was wouldn't it be up to me to prove that it is rather than you trying to disprove something you cannot possibly disprove, if you manage, i'll just move the goalposts, just like Christianity has done for 2k years.

I think its a shame to compare that to a question of pink unicorns. The question of God arises from "Where did existance come from?". "Did something make this existance?". The response to that is "There may be \ is a creator that generated existance".
This isn't the case of someone walking up and saying "zOMG teh pink unicorn!". What question would actually come up with Mr. Pink Unicorn?
 

moshquerade

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Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: NSFW
Could you please give me one scientific fact that proves God doesn't exist?

excellent question.

what cannot be proved and yet cannot be disproved may actually exist.

Could you please provide me evidence that an invisible immaterial unicorn does not reside in your cooch and controlls the universe?

Go ahead and try to disprove it, it may actually exist, right?


Honestly, you want honesty? I cannot stand you. I will not entertain you with any responses. You are rude, brash, and full of yourself.

You are the one who accused me of being someone who was prejudiced against gays. There was no rhyme or reason to the accusation, and it was so far off the mark that I'm surprised you held onto the planet and didn't fall off after spewing that garbage.

So go ask your questions to someone who gives a damn about you and responding to you. I do not.
 

magomago

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Originally posted by: Praxis1452
Originally posted by: NSFW
Could you please give me one scientific fact that proves God doesn't exist?

Perhaps if you could define god physically then it may be an answerable question. Science is also not just about the facts you seem to require. It's about evidence, and how much there is for a particular viewpoint compared to others.

Which is why its an unanswerable question.
 

CoinOperatedBoy

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Originally posted by: OILFIELDTRASH
Originally posted by: GodlessAstronomer
Originally posted by: OILFIELDTRASH
I could go through Albert Einstein quotes all day to prove that he believed that God existed. Maybe not in the Christian sense but that there is a force or being that pulls the strings. I have witnessed and felt many instances where I felt God was there.

Tell me why the majority of the top scientists believe in God? I know your smarter than them too.

Einstein was very clear - he simply did not believe in a personal god. Now that we have that appeal to authority out of the way, your next appeal to authority: 93% of National Academy of Sciences members do not believe in god. Source.

Sorry I trust this site more than stephanjaygould.com thanks though
http://www.livescience.com/str...11_scientists_god.html

You're a jackass. How about TIME magazine?
http://www.time.com/time/magaz...0,9171,1607298,00.html

Not that it even matters. Even if Einstein held religious beliefs, your whole argument about OMG UR NOT SMARTER THEN EINSTINE is laughably stupid.
 

Praxis1452

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Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: NSFW
Could you please give me one scientific fact that proves God doesn't exist?

excellent question.

what cannot be proved and yet cannot be disproved may actually exist.

Quite a horrible question that does not even seek an answer.

Something that cannot be proved nor disproved is something not studied by science, why would you require a scientific fact? Oh, because you're retarded.
 

moshquerade

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Nov 1, 2001
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Originally posted by: Praxis1452
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: NSFW
Could you please give me one scientific fact that proves God doesn't exist?

excellent question.

what cannot be proved and yet cannot be disproved may actually exist.

Quite a horrible question that does not even seek an answer.

Something that cannot be proved nor disproved is something not studied by science, why would you require a scientific fact? Oh, because you're retarded.

typical.
 

CoinOperatedBoy

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Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: NSFW
Could you please give me one scientific fact that proves God doesn't exist?

excellent question.

what cannot be proved and yet cannot be disproved may actually exist.

Could you please provide me evidence that an invisible immaterial unicorn does not reside in your cooch and controlls the universe?

Go ahead and try to disprove it, it may actually exist, right?


Honestly, you want honesty? I cannot stand you. I will not entertain you with any responses. You are rude, brash, and full of yourself.

You are the one who accused me of being someone who was prejudiced against gays. There was no rhyme or reason to the accusation, and it was so far off the mark that I'm surprised you held onto the planet and didn't fall off after spewing that garbage.

So go ask your questions to someone who gives a damn about you and responding to you. I do not.

That's all well and good Mosh, but I can't help notice you've sidestepped the real issue and didn't actually deny the omnipotent unicorn that resides up in your lady parts.
 

moshquerade

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Nov 1, 2001
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Originally posted by: CoinOperatedBoy
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: NSFW
Could you please give me one scientific fact that proves God doesn't exist?

excellent question.

what cannot be proved and yet cannot be disproved may actually exist.

Could you please provide me evidence that an invisible immaterial unicorn does not reside in your cooch and controlls the universe?

Go ahead and try to disprove it, it may actually exist, right?


Honestly, you want honesty? I cannot stand you. I will not entertain you with any responses. You are rude, brash, and full of yourself.

You are the one who accused me of being someone who was prejudiced against gays. There was no rhyme or reason to the accusation, and it was so far off the mark that I'm surprised you held onto the planet and didn't fall off after spewing that garbage.

So go ask your questions to someone who gives a damn about you and responding to you. I do not.

That's all well and good Mosh, but I can't help notice you've sidestepped the real issue and didn't actually deny the omnipotent unicorn that resides up in your lady parts.

I noticed what he typed. Isn't he clever? Hahaha, I am slapping a knee here over the immense amount of humor. He loves breaking out words that relate to female anatomy.
 

Praxis1452

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Jan 31, 2006
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Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: Praxis1452
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: NSFW
Could you please give me one scientific fact that proves God doesn't exist?

excellent question.

what cannot be proved and yet cannot be disproved may actually exist.

Quite a horrible question that does not even seek an answer.

Something that cannot be proved nor disproved is something not studied by science, why would you require a scientific fact? Oh, because you're retarded.

typical.

Your response is stupid. It is NOT a good question. Your statement while true is meaningless. YOU are typical. I'm sure you've seen this type of argument pop up numerous times, and so have I. I fail to see how NSFW's question, which you recognized as an "excellent question", is a good question at all. Your response proves the point.
 

GagHalfrunt

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Apr 19, 2001
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Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: NSFW
Could you please give me one scientific fact that proves God doesn't exist?

excellent question.

what cannot be proved and yet cannot be disproved may actually exist.

It's frightening that THAT is the logic that wannabelievers use to justify their fairy tales. Fine. Your invisible man in the sky has EXACTLY as much merit as the 1000 foot tall purple dragon that lives in my mailbox. Maybe the dragon and your god can get together and do lunch at Darth Vader's house.
 

moshquerade

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Nov 1, 2001
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Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: NSFW
Could you please give me one scientific fact that proves God doesn't exist?

excellent question.

what cannot be proved and yet cannot be disproved may actually exist.

It's frightening that THAT is the logic that wannabelievers use to justify their fairy tales. Fine. Your invisible man in the sky has EXACTLY as much merit as the 1000 foot tall purple dragon that lives in my mailbox.
To each his own. I am not asking you to believe in anything. Am I?
 

Praxis1452

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Jan 31, 2006
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Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: NSFW
Could you please give me one scientific fact that proves God doesn't exist?

excellent question.

what cannot be proved and yet cannot be disproved may actually exist.

It's frightening that THAT is the logic that wannabelievers use to justify their fairy tales. Fine. Your invisible man in the sky has EXACTLY as much merit as the 1000 foot tall purple dragon that lives in my mailbox. Maybe the dragon and your god can get together and do lunch at Darth Vader's house.
I never concern myself with proving that god doesn't exist. I don't even care about god to be quite honest. But I do like shattering the pathetic arguments I see in favor of this thing they can't define. I mean hell it's easy, and fun.
 

magomago

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Sep 28, 2002
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Originally posted by: CoinOperatedBoy
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: NSFW
Could you please give me one scientific fact that proves God doesn't exist?

excellent question.

what cannot be proved and yet cannot be disproved may actually exist.

Could you please provide me evidence that an invisible immaterial unicorn does not reside in your cooch and controlls the universe?

Go ahead and try to disprove it, it may actually exist, right?


Honestly, you want honesty? I cannot stand you. I will not entertain you with any responses. You are rude, brash, and full of yourself.

You are the one who accused me of being someone who was prejudiced against gays. There was no rhyme or reason to the accusation, and it was so far off the mark that I'm surprised you held onto the planet and didn't fall off after spewing that garbage.

So go ask your questions to someone who gives a damn about you and responding to you. I do not.

That's all well and good Mosh, but I can't help notice you've sidestepped the real issue and didn't actually deny the omnipotent unicorn that resides up in your lady parts.

You can look at my response then, as oppose to side stepping the fact that it isn't just mosh in this discussion
 

sash1

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Jul 20, 2001
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Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: NSFW
Could you please give me one scientific fact that proves God doesn't exist?

excellent question.

what cannot be proved and yet cannot be disproved may actually exist.

Could you please provide me evidence that an invisible immaterial unicorn does not reside in your cooch and controlls the universe?

Go ahead and try to disprove it, it may actually exist, right?


Honestly, you want honesty? I cannot stand you. I will not entertain you with any responses. You are rude, brash, and full of yourself.

You are the one who accused me of being someone who was prejudiced against gays. There was no rhyme or reason to the accusation, and it was so far off the mark that I'm surprised you held onto the planet and didn't fall off after spewing that garbage.

So go ask your questions to someone who gives a damn about you and responding to you. I do not.

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Jun 26, 2007
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Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: NSFW
Could you please give me one scientific fact that proves God doesn't exist?

excellent question.

what cannot be proved and yet cannot be disproved may actually exist.

Could you please provide me evidence that an invisible immaterial unicorn does not reside in your cooch and controlls the universe?

Go ahead and try to disprove it, it may actually exist, right?


Honestly, you want honesty? I cannot stand you. I will not entertain you with any responses. You are rude, brash, and full of yourself.

You are the one who accused me of being someone who was prejudiced against gays. There was no rhyme or reason to the accusation, and it was so far off the mark that I'm surprised you held onto the planet and didn't fall off after spewing that garbage.

So go ask your questions to someone who gives a damn about you and responding to you. I do not.

Ahhhh, so there goes the "it might actually exist" bullsheit right out the window, because you can't prove that anything immaterial and invisible doesn't exist, it's the way it is.

Too bad you had to make a work around for something that i never said to get around the question, right?

I'm sorry Mosh, i know i rub your sensible little ego the wrong way, it's a tough world here on ATOT, go cry in the corner until you feel better.
 

GagHalfrunt

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Apr 19, 2001
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Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: NSFW
Could you please give me one scientific fact that proves God doesn't exist?

excellent question.

what cannot be proved and yet cannot be disproved may actually exist.

It's frightening that THAT is the logic that wannabelievers use to justify their fairy tales. Fine. Your invisible man in the sky has EXACTLY as much merit as the 1000 foot tall purple dragon that lives in my mailbox.
To each his own. I am not asking you to believe in anything. Am I?

No, it's just that your grasping at straws strikes me as nothing more than desperation and while I admit it's amusing it's also sort of sad. Tonight, why don't you pray to the invisible man in the sky to provide you with some sort of logic that doesn't make the rest of us howl in derisive laughter at your expense. Surely an omnipotent invisible man in the sky can handle such a simple request. It's not like he's busy with world peace, an end to hunger, stopping disease and reigning in his hand-selected pedophiles.
 

moshquerade

No Lifer
Nov 1, 2001
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Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: NSFW
Could you please give me one scientific fact that proves God doesn't exist?

excellent question.

what cannot be proved and yet cannot be disproved may actually exist.

Could you please provide me evidence that an invisible immaterial unicorn does not reside in your cooch and controlls the universe?

Go ahead and try to disprove it, it may actually exist, right?


Honestly, you want honesty? I cannot stand you. I will not entertain you with any responses. You are rude, brash, and full of yourself.

You are the one who accused me of being someone who was prejudiced against gays. There was no rhyme or reason to the accusation, and it was so far off the mark that I'm surprised you held onto the planet and didn't fall off after spewing that garbage.

So go ask your questions to someone who gives a damn about you and responding to you. I do not.

Ahhhh, so there goes the "it might actually exist" bullsheit right out the window, because you can't prove that anything immaterial and invisible doesn't exist, it's the way it is.

Too bad you had to make a work around for something that i never said to get around the question, right?

I'm sorry Mosh, i know i rub your sensible little ego the wrong way, it's a tough world here on ATOT, go cry in the corner until you feel better.

You said it. I remembered correctly. It was so outlandish that I cannot forget it.

And with that, I am done with you.
 

moshquerade

No Lifer
Nov 1, 2001
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Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: GagHalfrunt
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: NSFW
Could you please give me one scientific fact that proves God doesn't exist?

excellent question.

what cannot be proved and yet cannot be disproved may actually exist.

It's frightening that THAT is the logic that wannabelievers use to justify their fairy tales. Fine. Your invisible man in the sky has EXACTLY as much merit as the 1000 foot tall purple dragon that lives in my mailbox.
To each his own. I am not asking you to believe in anything. Am I?

No, it's just that your grasping at straws strikes me as nothing more than desperation and while I admit it's amusing it's also sort of sad. Tonight, why don't you pray to the invisible man in the sky to provide you with some sort of logic that doesn't make the rest of us howl in derisive laughter at your expense. Surely an omnipotent invisible man in the sky can handle such a simple request. It's not like he's busy with world peace, an end to hunger, stopping disease and reigning in his hand-selected pedophiles.

Really, that's insulting, but if that's your intention, congratulations. You have succeeded.

Why am I not insulting your atheism? Hmmmm....