Question for people that voted for Trump in the primaries

[ivwshane]

There are people who watch fox "news" even though they do not have actual news on their dedicated propaganda channel.

So the fact that people support trump does not supprise me, especially looking at Clinton, or Johnson, or Stein.

Sanders was the only good candidate, and hes gone.
All thats remains is a stew of sewage.

Ok. Odd though since both Hillary and Sanders support many of the same issues.


I'll go with"uninformed voter" for 300 Alex.

 

[ivwshane]

No, it does not. it wins the hell out of republican primaries though doesn't it? LOL . What I find funny is how the reps keep losing and they cant figure out why. They blame the liberal media and the liberal education system rather than looking in the mirror. Gee, do you think maybe all of that religious, racist, sexist, anti gay rhetoric turns people off? could it be? As a straight white male American, I can honestly say that the religious, racist, sexist, anti gay rhetoric turns me way the hell off. I cant even imagine how badly I would hate it if I were a minority, gay, or a woman. /ugh.

Its actually worse than that, the repubs actually know why they are losing, their autopsy was proof of that. They simply choose to ignore it.

 

[chucky2]

I disagree. Hilary is extremely week and any decent viable candidate could have beaten her. Even look at the polls. After the convention, Trump went off on another twitter tirade and Hilary was up by like 8-10 points. Then Trump STFU for a few weeks and it was almost neck and neck again until the first debate and then he went off on another twitter tirade and dropped... And of course now that latest tape with Billy Bush it will drop further. You can't blame this on the left, the schools or the media... Losing this election was 100% Trump's doing. All of it. it is his own mouth, his own tweets and his own words that are killing him.

His own words are killing him but really it's his own words blown out of proportion by a willing and sympathetic media, along with Billary spending big bucks on ads using them (and not really in context with images shown). Billary was only losing ground because of her health, and leaks. If her persistent leaks hadn't happened, where would Billary be? At 63% putting out the fake manufactuered Thanks Suckers! smile and planning her next backroom meeting. I do not see any of the other Rep nominees winning against Billary. Who? Cruz? He's less likeable than Billary. Rubio perhaps? Maybe, I'll give you that one as he at least has some charisma, is a Latino and thus might get some minority vote, and is younger and good enough looking he'd get some woman vote. But he's young and inexperienced, and isn't at the Bummer BS level.

I do somewhat agree, Trump is easily his own worst enemy - in the present. His past shit...all social engineered mud to make Billary look less worse. No one really care what a Billionaire playboy said a decade or two ago until it's manufactured in such a way that the Sheeple actually will care. Where do you think Billary has been spending her $$$...

 

[chucky2]

Trump got to where he is within the party by keeping it real. Turns out your ideological peers love him for it. Unfortunately for them racism and misogyny doesn't win elections anymore.

Sure it does, look at Billary, it's working for her just great! She's convinced a sufficient amount of Sheeple that Trump is racist, sexist, and the list goes on. She's even convinced them she isn't, and that even if Trump is a little of those things (the mere accusation is proof), that it matters for the job the POTUS will be performing. I mean, "agent00f", I live in an area where Black unemployment is sky high...Billary is having backroom meetings where she wants to "improve" on our illegal invasion numbers and go Open Borders. LOL, how racist does one have to be against Blacks? Or classist against lower income job holders? We just need Jhhnn to pop in here (please de-stench from Billary's anus first!) and say how She is all terrific, She's done nothing bad (I capped for the deity view, I'm sure for those that worship there will be no argument there)...

 

[BurnItDwn]

Ok. Odd though since both Hillary and Sanders support many of the same issues.
I'll go with"uninformed voter" for 300 Alex.

I will vote for her, but I dislike her because
1.) war, she voted for it.
2.) Superpacs, she may claim she wants to overturn citizens united, but she is part of the problem IMO
3.) Gun control, I think she is too anti-gun, wanting to allow victims of gun crimes to sue the manifacturer is dangerous path IMO
4.) She doesnt support legalization of marijuana, it should absolutely be 100% legal, he is less restrictive, supporting allowing states to decide if it is legal.
5.) Sanders wants to seperate commercial and investment banking, similar to Glass stiegal act and to reduce the size of individual large banks to reduce them below the "too big to fail" threshold by allowing them to divest assets/spinoff other companies.
6.) Clinton wants to contine to play world police, Sanders wants to reduce the US role in international affairs (he is not isolationist, but, he clearly wants to focus on problems at home)
On many issues, their talking points were similar or the same, but at the end of the day, I do not trust Clinton, and I think she is not a very good choice. I do not hold it against people who vote against her, because I can understand where they are coming from ,and I can empathize with their feelings of disgust or mistrust.

Anyhow, as I have mentioned countless times, I will vote for Clinton. I dislike her, but I am overflowing with hatred for trump. I'll choose the person I dislike over the Fascist I loath on a philosophical AND personal level.

 

[MrSquished]

I will vote for her, but I dislike her because
1.) war, she voted for it.
2.) Superpacs, she may claim she wants to overturn citizens united, but she is part of the problem IMO
3.) Gun control, I think she is too anti-gun, wanting to allow victims of gun crimes to sue the manifacturer is dangerous path IMO
4.) She doesnt support legalization of marijuana, it should absolutely be 100% legal, he is less restrictive, supporting allowing states to decide if it is legal.
5.) Sanders wants to seperate commercial and investment banking, similar to Glass stiegal act and to reduce the size of individual large banks to reduce them below the "too big to fail" threshold by allowing them to divest assets/spinoff other companies.
6.) Clinton wants to contine to play world police, Sanders wants to reduce the US role in international affairs (he is not isolationist, but, he clearly wants to focus on problems at home)
On many issues, their talking points were similar or the same, but at the end of the day, I do not trust Clinton, and I think she is not a very good choice. I do not hold it against people who vote against her, because I can understand where they are coming from ,and I can empathize with their feelings of disgust or mistrust.

Anyhow, as I have mentioned countless times, I will vote for Clinton. I dislike her, but I am overflowing with hatred for trump. I'll choose the person I dislike over the Fascist I loath on a philosophical AND personal level.

I'm with you. Except for anti-gun - I think she is ok. And just like you I am no Clinton fan but am truly disgusted and appalled by Trump on many many levels. Loathe him is a good word. And again on both an ideological and personal level. My distaste for him will make voting for Hilary feel good, no matter her flaws.

 

[chucky2]

LOL Goebbels is saluting Billary's Social Engineering teams...

 

[retrospooty]

His own words are killing him but really it's his own words blown out of proportion by a willing and sympathetic media, along with Billary spending big bucks on ads using them

Nope, the issue is his words, his attitude and himself alone. Blaming any of it on the media or the opponent is like you thoroughly cussing someone out and then blaming their ears for hearing it. "Well if you weren't listening, this would not have been so bad"

 

[chucky2]

Nope, the issue is his words, his attitude and himself alone. Blaming any of it on the media or the opponent is like you thoroughly cussing someone out and then blaming their ears for hearing it. "Well if you weren't listening, this would not have been so bad"

Nah, just don't see it that way at all. Yes Trump does himself few favors, but then, he's not completely fake and manufactured like Billary so there will be more material. The problem really is the Sheeple. If they refuse to wise up to Establishment political machines social engineering them into voting a certain way, well, more power to the Establishment, I guess the Sheeple like the Billary type politicians. Trump does put his foot in his mouth from time to time, but, Billary's machine, which one could throw much of the media in, blows it way out of proportion. Don't get me wrong, they couldn't do that if Trump was more manufactured like her (or slick like Bummer or Bill), but to really blame all of Trump's hits on Trump? Eehh...not sure I'd go that far.

Pretend for a second you had a Billary who didn't social engineer media/statement off what Trump says. Just stuck to actual issues rather than social engineering a worse viewed person than she already is. Where do you think Billary would be right now as far as %'s.

 

[agent00f]

Sure it does, look at Billary, it's working for her just great! She's convinced a sufficient amount of Sheeple that Trump is racist, sexist, and the list goes on. She's even convinced them she isn't, and that even if Trump is a little of those things (the mere accusation is proof), that it matters for the job the POTUS will be performing. I mean, "agent00f", I live in an area where Black unemployment is sky high...Billary is having backroom meetings where she wants to "improve" on our illegal invasion numbers and go Open Borders. LOL, how racist does one have to be against Blacks? Or classist against lower income job holders? We just need Jhhnn to pop in here (please de-stench from Billary's anus first!) and say how She is all terrific, She's done nothing bad (I capped for the deity view, I'm sure for those that worship there will be no argument there)...

Personally I can only fully support trump fans portraying his actions as merely womanizing or colorful language and not really sexist. Women love it when you tell them they're stupid for not realizing the trump/ailes sorts they have to put up with are just boys being boys, and you guys are the real advocates for women. Same with blacks, they love it when you guys tell them you're the real minority advocates. Keep it up just like Trump when he tells his all white males audience to parrot this.

 

[fskimospy]

Nope, the issue is his words, his attitude and himself alone. Blaming any of it on the media or the opponent is like you thoroughly cussing someone out and then blaming their ears for hearing it. "Well if you weren't listening, this would not have been so bad"

It reminds me of Bob Loblaw. 'Why should you get in trouble for a statement that someone else noticed?' His words are absolutely atrocious and full context usually just makes them worse.

I guess with enough motivated reasoning people can get anywhere.

 

[retrospooty]

Nah, just don't see it that way at all. Yes Trump does himself few favors, but then, he's not completely fake and manufactured like Billary so there will be more material. The problem really is the Sheeple. If they refuse to wise up to Establishment political machines social engineering them into voting a certain way, well, more power to the Establishment, I guess the Sheeple like the Billary type politicians. Trump does put his foot in his mouth from time to time, but, Billary's machine, which one could throw much of the media in, blows it way out of proportion. Don't get me wrong, they couldn't do that if Trump was more manufactured like her (or slick like Bummer or Bill), but to really blame all of Trump's hits on Trump? Eehh...not sure I'd go that far.

Pretend for a second you had a Billary who didn't social engineer media/statement off what Trump says. Just stuck to actual issues rather than social engineering a worse viewed person than she already is. Where do you think Billary would be right now as far as %'s.

Repeating things he said isnt rally what I would call social engineering. They are just sitting back saying "See, just look at this crazy shit he said". Again, blaming any of it on the media or the opponent is like you thoroughly cussing someone out and then blaming their ears for hearing it.

 

[Ichinisan]

No one can take you seriously if you use the terms "Billary" [Hillary], "Bummer" [Obama], and "sheeple" [people] multiple times in multiple posts. Go back to the like-minded people in your Facebook circle.

 

[local]

Yeah, that's it. Burn down your own house while you're still living inside. That'll teach 'em!

It's already on fire and throwing water on it has only made it worse. And yes if the only way to get some kind of meaningful change to happen is to harm myself as well then so be it. I'd rather get it over with now than have a slow burn for the next 40 years.

Actually I think his response is pretty valid. If he was looking to give the republican party a reality check, who better than Trump? I think it's possible that the next 4 years might be some major course correction for the republican party solely because of his candidacy.

Exactly. When the almost guaranteed matchup was Clinton/Bush I wanted to throw up. Trump provided a way for me to show the republicans just what I thought about them. I really was hoping for some shenanigans at the convention though to split the party. The democrats would then split soon enough without a common enemy to keep the different interests together. Then maybe something decent would rise from the ashes.

 

[zinfamous]

Nah, just don't see it that way at all. Yes Trump does himself few favors, but then, he's not completely fake and manufactured like Billary so there will be more material. ...

Still not a quality or point of qualification. Mussolini also wasn't fake or manufactured--and that is the problem.

 

[Puffnstuff]

Am I the only person who sees shades of Hitler in Trump?

 

[glenn1]

Am I the only person who sees shades of Hitler in Trump?

The left sees shades of Hitler in anyone who runs as someone not on the left.

 

[Puffnstuff]

Trump is actively engaged in racial profiling which is exactly what Hitler did. Bush never did such a thing that I can recall and actually banned the practice. http://www.cbsnews.com/news/bush-orders-racial-profiling-ban/

 

[retrospooty]

Still not a quality or point of qualification. Mussolini also wasn't fake or manufactured--and that is the problem.

Yup... I have no doubt that Trump is being real. He is not faking, the guy we see is the real Trump... The problem is the real Trump that we see is a racist, self important windbag that is completley incapable of leadership on the world stage.

 

[First]

No one can take you seriously if you use the terms "Billary" [Hillary], "Bummer" [Obama], and "sheeple" [people] multiple times in multiple posts. Go back to the like-minded people in your Facebook circle.

Haha, I was just about this say this. Anyone who uses sheeple must be getting their news from YouTube, InfoWars or RonPaul.com.

 

[retrospooty]

The left sees shades of Hitler in anyone who runs as someone not on the left.

I dont know about that... The comparisons for Trump and Hitler isnt about anyone running against a left leaning member... It has 100% to do with wanting to build a wall , deport latino's, and ban muslims. There is a clear effort to blame all of our problems on brown people on a level not seen since Germany in the 1930's... That is the source.

 

[glenn1]

Trump is actively engaged in racial profiling which is exactly what Hitler did. Bush never did such a thing that I can recall and actually banned the practice. http://www.cbsnews.com/news/bush-orders-racial-profiling-ban/

"Mexican' or "Muslim" aren't designations of race, nor were "Jew" or "Romani" like Hitler had the hard-on for. There's also the minor little factual detail that illegal immigrants have a completely different status and legal remedy than native born German Jews who committed no crimes. If you think deporting someone who broke immigration laws is akin to sticking a child into an oven then you need to reexamine your internal gauges to correctly be able to tell justice from crimes against humanity.

 

[retrospooty]

"Mexican' or "Muslim" aren't designations of race, nor were "Jew" or "Romani" like Hitler had the hard-on for. There's also the minor little factual detail that illegal immigrants have a completely different status and legal remedy than native born German Jews who committed no crimes. If you think deporting someone who broke immigration laws is akin to sticking a child into an oven then you need to reexamine your internal gauges to correctly be able to tell justice from crimes against humanity.

I would say if you cant draw a parallel between what Germany did in the 30's and what Trump and his supporters are wanting to do now you are blind. No, of course Trump isnt talking about genocide or murder, but he and his bigoted followers are very obviously blaming all of our problems on brown people on a level not seen since Germany in the 1930's... Also, you need to recall that Hitler in the 30's wasnt calling for Genocide, he was calling for national pride and speaking against immigrants taking jobs.

 

[Puffnstuff]

Trump is lumping different ethnicities into the same group without regard to their legal status in this country. The republican hate machine is just deplorable. I want our laws enforced as well but we don't have to resort to degrading and abasing remarks in order to accomplish this.

 

[glenn1]

I would say if you cant draw a parallel between what Germany did in the 30's and what Trump and his supporters are wanting to do now you are blind. No, of course Trump isnt talking about genocide or murder, but he and his bigoted followers are very obviously blaming all of our problems on brown people on a level not seen since Germany in the 1930's... Also, you need to recall that Hitler in the 30's wasnt calling for Genocide, he was calling for national pride and speaking against immigrants taking jobs.

You seem to be repeatedly and purposely missing the point that those "brown people" actually are a big factor in the problem in question. Lots of people are sneaking over our borders and millions are here without legal authorization. Yes there are plenty of lilly white western Europeans overstaying visas also but there's no reason to handle them differently than we would a Mexican/Guatemalan/whoever who came across our border via coyote trafficker. Maybe you can start by acknowledging it as a legitimate problem before you start throwing out Hitler comps.

Trump is lumping different ethnicities into the same group without regard to their legal status in this country. The republican hate machine is just deplorable. I want our laws enforced as well but we don't have to resort to degrading and abasing remarks in order to accomplish this.

So you're fine with deporting them but just don't want mean things said about people who broke our immigration laws? Oh how terrible someone called another person a bad name, I can see the direct line to Hitler now.