Question for people that voted for Trump in the primaries

[ivwshane]

Ironic you finally understand this concept when it comes to applying "collective action problem" to voting but still use it every time when it comes to increasing your own generosity and/or tax payments to further your social goals to help the poor, etc. I guess for you and the rest of the left the threshold for "collective action problem" is once it starts meaning you need to pull money out of your pocket to further your stated desires.

I've voted for tax increases when they appear on the ballot. I also pay my taxes and have no problem paying more when needed.

 

[MongGrel]

Do you think your vote matters?

yes.

 

[emperus]

Asks for reasons GOP is good for the middle class and then proceeds to cite things Clinton did for the poor. I think the middle class notices the lack of interest either party has for them. Or maybe the left can't distinguish the poor from middle class and thinks the middle class interests are exactly the same as the poor and on top of that are focused on trying to get back at the rich and further building out the welfare state.

Well let me expand the question and maybe you can help him with the answer. The GOP is in control of both houses of Congress. Give me one bill they have passed that has made life better for the middle class or the poor... I'll be waiting.

 

[JSt0rm]

Well let me expand the question and maybe you can help him with the answer. The GOP is in control of both houses of Congress. Give me one bill they have passed that has made life better for the middle class or the poor... I'll be waiting.

its gonna trickle down...

 

[retrospooty]

its gonna trickle down...

LOL. Classic.

 

[skyking]

its gonna trickle down...

Wait for the shake, wait for it.

 

[cubby1223]

I am not going to pile on and say "I told you so", just asking a serious question... How did you think this would turn out?

For the record I didn't vote in the primaries, nor will vote in the general election. How did I think this would turn out? It would turn out with a lot of people terrified.

We had 8 years of liberals insulting "the other side" over use of executive orders by Obama. How about this "I told you so" to liberals? How did you think it would turn out continually giving the president more and more authoritative powers beyond the reach of congress?

Without Trump in the race, Republicans would continue being dumb-f**ks rather than shaping up and start being what a conservative Republican was supposed to be. And without Trump Democrats would continue being the elitist a**hole snobbists they are. Maybe the best way for this country is not through a party built on being jerks. Maybe we need parties based upon working together rather working against "the other side".

But I'm just a pie in the sky dreamer. 2020 elections will find a way to top 2016.

 

[retrospooty]

For the record I didn't vote in the primaries, nor will vote in the general election. How did I think this would turn out? It would turn out with a lot of people terrified.

We had 8 years of liberals insulting "the other side" over use of executive orders by Obama. How about this "I told you so" to liberals? How did you think it would turn out continually giving the president more and more authoritative powers beyond the reach of congress?

Without Trump in the race, Republicans would continue being dumb-f**ks rather than shaping up and start being what a conservative Republican was supposed to be. And without Trump Democrats would continue being the elitist a**hole snobbists they are. Maybe the best way for this country is not through a party built on being jerks. Maybe we need parties based upon working together rather working against "the other side".

But I'm just a pie in the sky dreamer. 2020 elections will find a way to top 2016.

Fair enough... The parties are both out of control with no end in sight. Still not seeing what anyone thought Trump would do though. There are serious SERIOUS issues in this political system, but thinking someone like Trump is a solution is just laughable.

 

[dank69]

I'm right there with you. It's embarrassing for our nation quite frankly.

By the way, Kasich was someone I might have voted for. He was the only one in the field of republicans I would have considered voting for actually. The rest of them are too far right, too religious, too extreme and Trump just doesn't have the temperament. I have never supported Trump and never will.

The rest of them may be too religious but they never proposed a US Department of Christianity.

 

[retrospooty]

The rest of them may be too religious but they never proposed a US Department of Christianity.

No, but alot of them do want to ban abortion, and stop teaching the fact of evolution in schools and stop gay marriage, and all of the other ridiculous nonsense the overly religious right comes up with.

 

[local]

I am not going to pile on and say "I told you so", just asking a serious question... How did you think this would turn out?

Honestly? I was hoping for an implosion in the republican party. If successful next time I will vote for whoever makes the democrats worse off. Both parties are rotten and need to be destroyed, if it takes damaging the country to get rid of this cancer then so be it. I don't believe in voting for someone I don't like just because the alternative is worse. After years of voting for useless turds it has proven that voting for the "lesser evil" does not result in a better option next time. So I think it is time to start voting for the worst possible option and see if we can break the whole system to bring in some new blood. Then again maybe I just want to watch the world burn.

 

[Meghan54]

Honestly? I was hoping for an implosion in the republican party. If successful next time I will vote for whoever makes the democrats worse off. Both parties are rotten and need to be destroyed, if it takes damaging the country to get rid of this cancer then so be it. I don't believe in voting for someone I don't like just because the alternative is worse. After years of voting for useless turds it has proven that voting for the "lesser evil" does not result in a better option next time. So I think it is time to start voting for the worst possible option and see if we can break the whole system to bring in some new blood. Then again maybe I just want to watch the world burn.

Yeah, that's it. Burn down your own house while you're still living inside. That'll teach 'em!

 

[momeNt]

Yeah, that's it. Burn down your own house while you're still living inside. That'll teach 'em!

Actually I think his response is pretty valid. If he was looking to give the republican party a reality check, who better than Trump? I think it's possible that the next 4 years might be some major course correction for the republican party solely because of his candidacy.

 

[thraashman]

For the record I didn't vote in the primaries, nor will vote in the general election. How did I think this would turn out? It would turn out with a lot of people terrified.

We had 8 years of liberals insulting "the other side" over use of executive orders by Obama. How about this "I told you so" to liberals? How did you think it would turn out continually giving the president more and more authoritative powers beyond the reach of congress?

Without Trump in the race, Republicans would continue being dumb-f**ks rather than shaping up and start being what a conservative Republican was supposed to be. And without Trump Democrats would continue being the elitist a**hole snobbists they are. Maybe the best way for this country is not through a party built on being jerks. Maybe we need parties based upon working together rather working against "the other side".

But I'm just a pie in the sky dreamer. 2020 elections will find a way to top 2016.

You can complain about executive order from Obama, hell I'm not thrilled that he had to do them, but more than a third of all filibusters done in the history of this country were done by the GOP in Obama's first 6 years. That level of obstructionism is so far beyond unprecedented that I don't have a word for it other than seditious. Hell, Mitch McConnell infamously filibustered his own proposed legislation and he recently blamed Obama for how bad a bill was that Obama vetoed because it was so bad and McConnell lead the override of the veto. Seriously, the level of obstructionism and incompetence from the current GOP in Congress is remarkable and I can't really blame Obama for using Executive Orders (even if he's really done them not all that much).

 

[First]

That's how badly people want action against offshoring and the border.
The rest of the field were largely politicians who speak to the issue with the same wink and nod GWB gave, meaning they weren't going to do !@#$. Those voters want a revolution in this country.

And they're going to get a revolution of sorts; unfortunately it'll be in the opposite ideological direction (liberal) and it'll be permanent and lasting (single payer, immigration reform, etc).

Moderate establishment Repubs tried to warn these turds. I give them props for trying. Conservatives getting exactly what they deserve.

 

[chucky2]

OP: I voted for Bernie in the primaries as I'd rather have had a Bernie vs Trump general (and not because I wanted Trump to crush Bernie, it would have made my vote very difficult as I see Bernie as one of the very few genuine candidates, but I hold our illegal invasion situation as treasonous and untenable, something Bernie would want to Open Border, and Trump obviously will do the proper thing and at least work to correct it), however had Bernie been the clear front runner, I'd have voted for Trump in the primaries.

Reason: Sick of Establishment candidates, on both sides of the aisle. And as aforementioned, sick of illegal invasion.

A Trump vs. Billary is an easy and clear choice: Trump all the way.

A Trump vs Bernie contest would have had me developing an ulcer on which one to support lol. Bernie I hold very few views with, but, he'd be halted from his lunacy by Congress for the most part, and I know he's a genuine politician (as genuine as one could ever be). That is huge for me, and the reason Billary is viewed so widely as a fake (because, she is) and why she had to invent a worse viewed candidate than herself - if she didn't, no one Billary ego is stroked and validated being elected POTUS (which, she will be, before the primary really even started).

 

[agent00f]

OP: I voted for Bernie in the primaries as I'd rather have had a Bernie vs Trump general (and not because I wanted Trump to crush Bernie, it would have made my vote very difficult as I see Bernie as one of the very few genuine candidates, but I hold our illegal invasion situation as treasonous and untenable, something Bernie would want to Open Border, and Trump obviously will do the proper thing and at least work to correct it), however had Bernie been the clear front runner, I'd have voted for Trump in the primaries.

Reason: Sick of Establishment candidates, on both sides of the aisle. And as aforementioned, sick of illegal invasion.

A Trump vs. Billary is an easy and clear choice: Trump all the way.

A Trump vs Bernie contest would have had me developing an ulcer on which one to support lol. Bernie I hold very few views with, but, he'd be halted from his lunacy by Congress for the most part, and I know he's a genuine politician (as genuine as one could ever be). That is huge for me, and the reason Billary is viewed so widely as a fake (because, she is) and why she had to invent a worse viewed candidate than herself - if she didn't, no one Billary ego is stroked and validated being elected POTUS (which, she will be, before the primary really even started).

Pretty sure the GOP will take just about any "fake" candidate right now.

Trump would however make a star candidate for another "When keeping it real goes wrong" skit if chapelle show ever comes back.

 

[retrospooty]

OP: I voted for Bernie in the primaries as I'd rather have had a Bernie vs Trump general (and not because I wanted Trump to crush Bernie, it would have made my vote very difficult as I see Bernie as one of the very few genuine candidates, but I hold our illegal invasion situation as treasonous and untenable, something Bernie would want to Open Border, and Trump obviously will do the proper thing and at least work to correct it), however had Bernie been the clear front runner, I'd have voted for Trump in the primaries.

Reason: Sick of Establishment candidates, on both sides of the aisle. And as aforementioned, sick of illegal invasion.

A Trump vs. Billary is an easy and clear choice: Trump all the way.

A Trump vs Bernie contest would have had me developing an ulcer on which one to support lol. Bernie I hold very few views with, but, he'd be halted from his lunacy by Congress for the most part, and I know he's a genuine politician (as genuine as one could ever be). That is huge for me, and the reason Billary is viewed so widely as a fake (because, she is) and why she had to invent a worse viewed candidate than herself - if she didn't, no one Billary ego is stroked and validated being elected POTUS (which, she will be, before the primary really even started).

No, I didn't vote in the primaries. I am registered independent so i could not... Of all of them, I probably would have picked Kasich. And I get your reason "Sick of Establishment candidates, on both sides of the aisle. And as aforementioned, sick of illegal invasion" and I agree with you, at least on the Sick of Establishment candidates part...
- But that wasn't the question. The question is what did you expect would happen putting up Trump as a candidate? Lets say you believe in his views and you want what he wants. Even then, what on Earth did you expect would happen? How did you see this ending?

 

[hal2kilo]

Wait for the shake, wait for it.

Thanks Mr. Brooks for making life in this world bearable.

Oh piss boy!!!

 

[chucky2]

No, I didn't vote in the primaries. I am registered independent so i could not... Of all of them, I probably would have picked Kasich. And I get your reason "Sick of Establishment candidates, on both sides of the aisle. And as aforementioned, sick of illegal invasion" and I agree with you, at least on the Sick of Establishment candidates part...
- But that wasn't the question. The question is what did you expect would happen putting up Trump as a candidate? Lets say you believe in his views and you want what he wants. Even then, what on Earth did you expect would happen? How did you see this ending?

I expected he'd lose, along with any other Rep candidate when running against Billary. Not because Billary is a great, good, or even average candidate, but because her one quality is world class BS artist (just like her husband Bill, except what she completely lacks in genuine charisma she makes up for in pathological rehearsal). Then you have the liberal media, who is more than happy to help Team Billary pick a candidate who more easily be a target for the hundreds of millions of social engineering dollars she'd be putting out to make whoever running against her appear to be a worse viewed candidate than even her own party views her as. And finally on top of that, and more major long term, you have the continued slide of the US to the left, most especially with the younger crowd (who grows up and has offspring they'll indoctrinate).

Elections are going to keep getting tougher and tougher for Right leaning parties/candidates as the PC indoctrination of America continues. You can't have nearly unchecked decades of it at the school level, in the media, basically totally Hollywood (people actually take what they say seriously), and have people plugged into these sources now 24x7 and think it won't get worse. This election was over before it started, and it will continue to get worse as the decades go on.

 

[chucky2]

Pretty sure the GOP will take just about any "fake" candidate right now.

Trump would however make a star candidate for another "When keeping it real goes wrong" skit if chapelle show ever comes back.

The GOP is going to revert to a "family values" "true conservative" excuse for why they lost this election "agent00f", and the next election they'll run another Establishment candidate and then wonder why they'll keep losing. We can already see Trump being corrupted by the far right wing prep. Do you think Trump came up with Scalia on his own? He could have said Roberts and been far better off, but he picked Scalia. Why? Because that right wing Establishment wants him to say that. Trump is already getting tarnished, and he's been in DC how long?

 

[retrospooty]

I expected he'd lose, along with any other Rep candidate when running against Billary. Not because Billary is a great, good, or even average candidate, but because her one quality is world class BS artist (just like her husband Bill, except what she completely lacks in genuine charisma she makes up for in pathological rehearsal). Then you have the liberal media, who is more than happy to help Team Billary pick a candidate who more easily be a target for the hundreds of millions of social engineering dollars she'd be putting out to make whoever running against her appear to be a worse viewed candidate than even her own party views her as. And finally on top of that, and more major long term, you have the continued slide of the US to the left, most especially with the younger crowd (who grows up and has offspring they'll indoctrinate).

Elections are going to keep getting tougher and tougher for Right leaning parties/candidates as the PC indoctrination of America continues. You can't have nearly unchecked decades of it at the school level, in the media, basically totally Hollywood (people actually take what they say seriously), and have people plugged into these sources now 24x7 and think it won't get worse. This election was over before it started, and it will continue to get worse as the decades go on.

I disagree. Hilary is extremely week and any decent viable candidate could have beaten her. Even look at the polls. After the convention, Trump went off on another twitter tirade and Hilary was up by like 8-10 points. Then Trump STFU for a few weeks and it was almost neck and neck again until the first debate and then he went off on another twitter tirade and dropped... And of course now that latest tape with Billy Bush it will drop further. You can't blame this on the left, the schools or the media... Losing this election was 100% Trump's doing. All of it. it is his own mouth, his own tweets and his own words that are killing him.

 

[agent00f]

The GOP is going to revert to a "family values" "true conservative" excuse for why they lost this election "agent00f", and the next election they'll run another Establishment candidate and then wonder why they'll keep losing. We can already see Trump being corrupted by the far right wing prep. Do you think Trump came up with Scalia on his own? He could have said Roberts and been far better off, but he picked Scalia. Why? Because that right wing Establishment wants him to say that. Trump is already getting tarnished, and he's been in DC how long?

Trump got to where he is within the party by keeping it real. Turns out your ideological peers love him for it. Unfortunately for them racism and misogyny doesn't win elections anymore.

 

[BurnItDwn]

There are people who watch fox "news" even though they do not have actual news on their dedicated propaganda channel.

So the fact that people support trump does not supprise me, especially looking at Clinton, or Johnson, or Stein.

Sanders was the only good candidate, and hes gone.
All thats remains is a stew of sewage.

 

[retrospooty]

Trump got to where he is within the party by keeping it real. Turns out your ideological peers love him for it. Unfortunately for them racism and misogyny doesn't win elections anymore.

No, it does not. it wins the hell out of republican primaries though doesn't it? LOL . What I find funny is how the reps keep losing and they cant figure out why. They blame the liberal media and the liberal education system rather than looking in the mirror. Gee, do you think maybe all of that religious, racist, sexist, anti gay rhetoric turns people off? could it be? As a straight white male American, I can honestly say that the religious, racist, sexist, anti gay rhetoric turns me way the hell off. I cant even imagine how badly I would hate it if I were a minority, gay, or a woman. /ugh.