RadiclDreamer
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We plan on going to Vista next year on all new machines. We are still buying computers from Dell with XP on them.
OutHouse
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- Jun 5, 2000
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we have about 700 workstations at work and only 2 have vista and they are in the lab. too many of our apps will not run on vista and we are not going to install that POS OS. there is nothing wrong with XP, its worked from day one and will be here for quite a while. mabye until vista has SP4 out.
ultimatebob
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There is PLENTY wrong with Vista if you're an IT guy. The driver support still sucks for older hardware (and probably always will), and the all of the background processes that automatically run system checks and spyware scans eat up a ton of CPU cycles and memory. If you have a system or peripherals that's more than 2 years old, you should avoid using them with Vista completely.
We use vista purely for testing and support of our students.
The staff.. all XP. And will be for the time being. Office 2k7 is slated though, but there is absolutely no need. It's pretty yes, but only if you have the hardware. Our celery sticks aren't up to the task, even w/ 2GB of ram, it's painful.
The staff.. all XP. And will be for the time being. Office 2k7 is slated though, but there is absolutely no need. It's pretty yes, but only if you have the hardware. Our celery sticks aren't up to the task, even w/ 2GB of ram, it's painful.
We wont touch Vista. The only Vista machine here is the one out of 2000 employees who brings in his own laptop.
The word Vista is the most hated word around here. No of our tools and development is integrating well with Vista, we are buying XP pro machines still. Vista needs a lot more drivers and support.
I don't have an issue using Vista at home tho
I don't have an issue using Vista at home tho
StageLeft
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- Sep 29, 2000
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Business never moves quickly. There would be NO gain to us going to Vista. I have not even asked IT (I work in software) and they would laugh at the thought. They also have no intention of going to IE7 and I wouldn't even recommend it anyway. What's the point? We do what's good for us, not what's good for MS. That said, we are using .net 2.0 and SQL Server 2005, at least 
We will not go to firefox, that's best suited for geeks and little companies that geeks have say over. I bet if we polled people about what software they hate most here, IE wouldn't even be a blip, so there's no need in bothering with it.
Not switching to office 07 any time soon. I'm one of the few even with 2003!
I know somebody who works at MS and I guess has to use Vista. He hates it and says it sucks, ehhe
We will not go to firefox, that's best suited for geeks and little companies that geeks have say over. I bet if we polled people about what software they hate most here, IE wouldn't even be a blip, so there's no need in bothering with it.
Not switching to office 07 any time soon. I'm one of the few even with 2003!
I know somebody who works at MS and I guess has to use Vista. He hates it and says it sucks, ehhe
0% Vista 0 plans at this moment. We have specified on the 3 or 4 laptops and 15 or so PC's that they come with XP.
Receive Vista on pre-built machines from HP. Purchased Acronis software and now we image them as they come in with XP.
Maybe the end of next year, maybe not. Vista doesn't look too good as far as being on the agenda anytime in the future.
Maybe the end of next year, maybe not. Vista doesn't look too good as far as being on the agenda anytime in the future.
I work for a fortune 100 as well. I haven't seen anything official, but I'm guessing somewhere around 2010 or 2011.
Nothing that badly wrong with Vista, but there's also no compelling reason to move to it either. When you look at pro/con, there are a lot of cons (compatibility, OS costs, bugs, increased hardware requirements, slow performance, rollout costs, increased support costs etc), and on the pro side there is..... errr.... ummm... a really nify feature when you hit alt-tab to switch between apps when using aero glass? Yeah, like I said, not gonna happen for a long time.
Nothing that badly wrong with Vista, but there's also no compelling reason to move to it either. When you look at pro/con, there are a lot of cons (compatibility, OS costs, bugs, increased hardware requirements, slow performance, rollout costs, increased support costs etc), and on the pro side there is..... errr.... ummm... a really nify feature when you hit alt-tab to switch between apps when using aero glass? Yeah, like I said, not gonna happen for a long time.
Where I work we are sticking with XP Pro, we run so many customized applications that Vista is not even close to be implemented in the near future.
Eltano
Eltano
Originally posted by: Skoorb
Business never moves quickly. There would be NO gain to us going to Vista. I have not even asked IT (I work in software) and they would laugh at the thought. They also have no intention of going to IE7 and I wouldn't even recommend it anyway. What's the point? We do what's good for us, not what's good for MS. That said, we are using .net 2.0 and SQL Server 2005, at least
We will not go to firefox, that's best suited for geeks and little companies that geeks have say over. I bet if we polled people about what software they hate most here, IE wouldn't even be a blip, so there's no need in bothering with it.
Not switching to office 07 any time soon. I'm one of the few even with 2003!
I know somebody who works at MS and I guess has to use Vista. He hates it and says it sucks, ehhe
As a web developer, I could honestly tell you that not using firefox would be a fvcking nightware for development. Do you have any idea just how useful firefox is? We do a lot of testing in IE obviously since IE has it's own set of rules which ignore anything we know as standard.
If you think that firefox is best suited for geeks, you might be right, since geeks are aware of the advantages firefox has over IE. I'm not going to deny that.
change is not necassarily bad.
However, there are upgrades and there are downgrades of change
It really is personal perspective as to how people view things.
Capt Caveman
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Originally posted by: Hyperblaze
Originally posted by: Skoorb
Business never moves quickly. There would be NO gain to us going to Vista. I have not even asked IT (I work in software) and they would laugh at the thought. They also have no intention of going to IE7 and I wouldn't even recommend it anyway. What's the point? We do what's good for us, not what's good for MS. That said, we are using .net 2.0 and SQL Server 2005, at least
We will not go to firefox, that's best suited for geeks and little companies that geeks have say over. I bet if we polled people about what software they hate most here, IE wouldn't even be a blip, so there's no need in bothering with it.
Not switching to office 07 any time soon. I'm one of the few even with 2003!
I know somebody who works at MS and I guess has to use Vista. He hates it and says it sucks, ehhe
As a web developer, I could honestly tell you that not using firefox would be a fvcking nightware for development. Do you have any idea just how useful firefox is? We do a lot of testing in IE obviously since IE has it's own set of rules which ignore anything we know as standard.
If you think that firefox is best suited for geeks, you might be right, since geeks are aware of the advantages firefox has over IE. I'm not going to deny that.
I was under the believe that IE followed correct web standards and that firefox can allow sloppy coding thus not working on IE.
Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
Originally posted by: Hyperblaze
Originally posted by: Skoorb
Business never moves quickly. There would be NO gain to us going to Vista. I have not even asked IT (I work in software) and they would laugh at the thought. They also have no intention of going to IE7 and I wouldn't even recommend it anyway. What's the point? We do what's good for us, not what's good for MS. That said, we are using .net 2.0 and SQL Server 2005, at least
We will not go to firefox, that's best suited for geeks and little companies that geeks have say over. I bet if we polled people about what software they hate most here, IE wouldn't even be a blip, so there's no need in bothering with it.
Not switching to office 07 any time soon. I'm one of the few even with 2003!
I know somebody who works at MS and I guess has to use Vista. He hates it and says it sucks, ehhe
As a web developer, I could honestly tell you that not using firefox would be a fvcking nightware for development. Do you have any idea just how useful firefox is? We do a lot of testing in IE obviously since IE has it's own set of rules which ignore anything we know as standard.
If you think that firefox is best suited for geeks, you might be right, since geeks are aware of the advantages firefox has over IE. I'm not going to deny that.
I was under the believe that IE followed correct web standards and that firefox can allow sloppy coding thus not working on IE.
you have been misinformed.
if you check the w3c standards, you'll notice that IE doesn't even come close to following them.
Opera, firefox, and a few other browsers follow the standards rather closely.
it's IE which doesn't give a sh!t. Sadly, since most people use IE, we need to ensure IE works with all the apps we make.
And Firefox does allow for sloppy coding I'll admit. Which is why it's always good to test in multiple browsers.
One of the greatest advantges of firefox is their extensions. Firebug, yslow, cssviewer, etc. All essential tools.
Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
Originally posted by: Hyperblaze
Originally posted by: Skoorb
Business never moves quickly. There would be NO gain to us going to Vista. I have not even asked IT (I work in software) and they would laugh at the thought. They also have no intention of going to IE7 and I wouldn't even recommend it anyway. What's the point? We do what's good for us, not what's good for MS. That said, we are using .net 2.0 and SQL Server 2005, at least
We will not go to firefox, that's best suited for geeks and little companies that geeks have say over. I bet if we polled people about what software they hate most here, IE wouldn't even be a blip, so there's no need in bothering with it.
Not switching to office 07 any time soon. I'm one of the few even with 2003!
I know somebody who works at MS and I guess has to use Vista. He hates it and says it sucks, ehhe
As a web developer, I could honestly tell you that not using firefox would be a fvcking nightware for development. Do you have any idea just how useful firefox is? We do a lot of testing in IE obviously since IE has it's own set of rules which ignore anything we know as standard.
If you think that firefox is best suited for geeks, you might be right, since geeks are aware of the advantages firefox has over IE. I'm not going to deny that.
I was under the believe that IE followed correct web standards and that firefox can allow sloppy coding thus not working on IE.
Really? No, you have to code using standards then view it in firefox. The next step is breaking your code to work in IE.
The MS decided to half ass follow standards in IE7, so now we have two shitty browsers to code for.
Originally posted by: ZeroIQ
Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
Originally posted by: Hyperblaze
Originally posted by: Skoorb
Business never moves quickly. There would be NO gain to us going to Vista. I have not even asked IT (I work in software) and they would laugh at the thought. They also have no intention of going to IE7 and I wouldn't even recommend it anyway. What's the point? We do what's good for us, not what's good for MS. That said, we are using .net 2.0 and SQL Server 2005, at least
We will not go to firefox, that's best suited for geeks and little companies that geeks have say over. I bet if we polled people about what software they hate most here, IE wouldn't even be a blip, so there's no need in bothering with it.
Not switching to office 07 any time soon. I'm one of the few even with 2003!
I know somebody who works at MS and I guess has to use Vista. He hates it and says it sucks, ehhe
As a web developer, I could honestly tell you that not using firefox would be a fvcking nightware for development. Do you have any idea just how useful firefox is? We do a lot of testing in IE obviously since IE has it's own set of rules which ignore anything we know as standard.
If you think that firefox is best suited for geeks, you might be right, since geeks are aware of the advantages firefox has over IE. I'm not going to deny that.
I was under the believe that IE followed correct web standards and that firefox can allow sloppy coding thus not working on IE.
Really? No, you have to code using standards then view it in firefox. The next step is breaking your code to work in IE.
The MS decided to half ass follow standards in IE7, so now we have two shitty browsers to code for.
Run the broswers through the ACID test if you want to see who's doing ok and who is half assing it, IE does far worse than FF
XP here. I can't imagine any company jumping to switch OS when the incumbent OS is still supported.
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