Question for gay men

[IHateMyJob2004]

"Question for gay men"

I skimmed all the posts. I haven't seen any actual responses from gay people.

 

[mrSHEiK124]

Originally posted by: swbsam

Originally posted by: JS80

Originally posted by: swbsam
I've lived with 3 gay men (and 2 straight women - it was a huge apartment) and became quite good friends with 2 of them. I got all of my gay questions out and here are the biggest answers, according to 2 gay men (so it's not the end all, be all truth):

1. Q: So, do you really like getting shit crammed up your butt? A: "Vaginas are as disgusting to me as assholes are to you. I literally want to gag just thinking about a vag.. It's an instinctual reaction"

2. Q: So, what's with all the flamers? A: "Flamers seem to be a social creation, a way for gay people to spot each other. I was born in Cali and live in NYC so I can just be who I am, but if I was born in say Kansas and was in a bar - I'd be terrified of getting my face stomped in for approaching the wrong guy, so some gay people put on an act to signify "I'M GAY!" to other gay people. That has grown into a culture and then a stereotype. Insecure people also put on an act, like overly macho men or overly fem girls"

lol shens on (1).

Nope, it's what one of my roommates said. I'm not saying he speaks for all gay people, but in his case he's repulsed by female nudity.

Ehhh, I'm still gonna call shens on 1. "VOTE SHENS ON 1."

When I see hotties on TV, let's see this is ATOT, Jessica Alba and Megan Fox, I label them as "would put the straight back in a gay man."

Originally posted by: JS80
There are gays and there are cigarette butts. Perez falls under cigarette butts.

Your answer is oddly satisfying.

 

[Platypus]

Originally posted by: IHateMyJob2004
"Question for gay men"

I skimmed all the posts. I haven't seen any actual responses from gay people.

You missed mine.

 

[swbsam]

Originally posted by: JS80

Originally posted by: swbsam

Originally posted by: JS80

Originally posted by: swbsam
I've lived with 3 gay men (and 2 straight women - it was a huge apartment) and became quite good friends with 2 of them. I got all of my gay questions out and here are the biggest answers, according to 2 gay men (so it's not the end all, be all truth):

1. Q: So, do you really like getting shit crammed up your butt? A: "Vaginas are as disgusting to me as assholes are to you. I literally want to gag just thinking about a vag.. It's an instinctual reaction"

2. Q: So, what's with all the flamers? A: "Flamers seem to be a social creation, a way for gay people to spot each other. I was born in Cali and live in NYC so I can just be who I am, but if I was born in say Kansas and was in a bar - I'd be terrified of getting my face stomped in for approaching the wrong guy, so some gay people put on an act to signify "I'M GAY!" to other gay people. That has grown into a culture and then a stereotype. Insecure people also put on an act, like overly macho men or overly fem girls"

lol shens on (1).

Nope, it's what one of my roommates said. I'm not saying he speaks for all gay people, but in his case he's repulsed by female nudity.

lol shens

he's lying to you to placate you.

Oh, yeah, it's possible that he was bullshitting me, but that is what his response was. I've heard it range from "eww, girls are icky" to "women are beautiful and I appreciate the form, but I'm not sexually attracted them".. all the way to "sure, i'll take what i can get!" (bi men), but I've never really understood bisexuality and personally believe it's not a true, genetic distinction (as I believe homosexuality/hetrosexuality is), but gay people not committing to their gayness, or straight people experimenting

 

[K1052]

Originally posted by: JS80

Originally posted by: swbsam

Originally posted by: JS80

Originally posted by: swbsam
I've lived with 3 gay men (and 2 straight women - it was a huge apartment) and became quite good friends with 2 of them. I got all of my gay questions out and here are the biggest answers, according to 2 gay men (so it's not the end all, be all truth):

1. Q: So, do you really like getting shit crammed up your butt? A: "Vaginas are as disgusting to me as assholes are to you. I literally want to gag just thinking about a vag.. It's an instinctual reaction"

2. Q: So, what's with all the flamers? A: "Flamers seem to be a social creation, a way for gay people to spot each other. I was born in Cali and live in NYC so I can just be who I am, but if I was born in say Kansas and was in a bar - I'd be terrified of getting my face stomped in for approaching the wrong guy, so some gay people put on an act to signify "I'M GAY!" to other gay people. That has grown into a culture and then a stereotype. Insecure people also put on an act, like overly macho men or overly fem girls"

lol shens on (1).

Nope, it's what one of my roommates said. I'm not saying he speaks for all gay people, but in his case he's repulsed by female nudity.

lol shens

he's lying to you to placate you.

I'm in full agreement with the answer to question 1 and so are many of my peers.

 

[Platypus]

Originally posted by: mrSHEiK124

Ehhh, I'm still gonna call shens on 1. "VOTE SHENS ON 1."

When I see hotties on TV, let's see this is ATOT, Jessica Alba and Megan Fox, I label them as "would put the straight back in a gay man."

You'd be wrong for me and most all of my gay friends... good thing you called shens on something you know nothing about though.

 

[swbsam]

Originally posted by: mrSHEiK124

Originally posted by: swbsam

Originally posted by: JS80

Originally posted by: swbsam
I've lived with 3 gay men (and 2 straight women - it was a huge apartment) and became quite good friends with 2 of them. I got all of my gay questions out and here are the biggest answers, according to 2 gay men (so it's not the end all, be all truth):

1. Q: So, do you really like getting shit crammed up your butt? A: "Vaginas are as disgusting to me as assholes are to you. I literally want to gag just thinking about a vag.. It's an instinctual reaction"

2. Q: So, what's with all the flamers? A: "Flamers seem to be a social creation, a way for gay people to spot each other. I was born in Cali and live in NYC so I can just be who I am, but if I was born in say Kansas and was in a bar - I'd be terrified of getting my face stomped in for approaching the wrong guy, so some gay people put on an act to signify "I'M GAY!" to other gay people. That has grown into a culture and then a stereotype. Insecure people also put on an act, like overly macho men or overly fem girls"

lol shens on (1).

Nope, it's what one of my roommates said. I'm not saying he speaks for all gay people, but in his case he's repulsed by female nudity.

Ehhh, I'm still gonna call shens on 1. "VOTE SHENS ON 1."

When I see hotties on TV, let's see this is ATOT, Jessica Alba and Megan Fox, I label them as "would put the straight back in a gay man."

Cause they look like dudes! Just kidding, Alba's cute and I would be a forum jockey poseur if I didn't say Fox is absolutely fuckable, but I prefer cute/soft features to "she looks like she'll steal my stuff and kick me in the groin, then maybe rape me," but that's personal preference.

But none of the gays I know are into that look, they seem to be more into Feist or the american apparel look

 

[sonambulo]

Originally posted by: TechBoyJK
However, whats up with the weird, obviously a little sick in the head, overly feminine, flamboyant attention grabbing guys like Perez that think it's neat to be associated to queens and female behavior?

As someone on the sidelines, trying not to be a bigot about it all, hoping to protect marriage as an instituation between men and women, but open to accept whatever my society votes in favor for, and more than willing to vote in favor of civil unions, I look at someone like Perez who is "flaming gay" and have no choice but think they they aren't "well". My perception of him is that he is both physically and pychologically sick, there is some clear chemical imbalance going on in his body (much like someone who is clinically depressed) and think "one day, i'm sure there will be medication that will straighten him out and get him functioning like a properly developed male" again. It's his type that make me think he is equally as sick as someone who is clinically depressed, or if not that bad, at least chemically messed up enough to affect their normal behavior.

It has nothing to do with him being gay. His oddball behavior is likely a result of many other factors (some psychological, some social) and he just happens to be homosexual on top of that.

You also have to remember that 'Perez Hilton' is merely a character that he's playing. I guarantee you that at home with family he doesn't act like he does when he's in the spotlight.

 

[I Saw OJ]

Originally posted by: swbsam
I've lived with 3 gay men (and 2 straight women - it was a huge apartment) and became quite good friends with 2 of them. I got all of my gay questions out and here are the biggest answers, according to 2 gay men (so it's not the end all, be all truth):

1. Q: So, do you really like getting shit crammed up your butt? A: "Vaginas are as disgusting to me as assholes are to you. I literally want to gag just thinking about a vag.. It's an instinctual reaction"

2. Q: So, what's with all the flamers? A: "Flamers seem to be a social creation, a way for gay people to spot each other. I was born in Cali and live in NYC so I can just be who I am, but if I was born in say Kansas and was in a bar - I'd be terrified of getting my face stomped in for approaching the wrong guy, so some gay people put on an act to signify "I'M GAY!" to other gay people. That has grown into a culture and then a stereotype. Insecure people also put on an act, like overly macho men or overly fem girls"

Second one makes a lot of sense.

 

[moshquerade]

Originally posted by: IHateMyJob2004
"Question for gay men"

I skimmed all the posts. I haven't seen any actual responses from gay people.

there have been from at least 3.

 

[ProfJohn]

Originally posted by: sonambulo
It has nothing to do with him being gay. His oddball behavior is likely a result of many other factors (some psychological, some social) and he just happens to be homosexual on top of that.

You also have to remember that 'Perez Hilton' is merely a character that he's playing. I guarantee you that at home with family he doesn't act like he does when he's in the spotlight.

I disagree...


I am wondering if his 'odd' behavior is a direct result of his being gay. It could be a psychological defense built up by him in response to him being picked on as a gay teenager.

 

[swbsam]

Originally posted by: I Saw OJ

Originally posted by: swbsam
I've lived with 3 gay men (and 2 straight women - it was a huge apartment) and became quite good friends with 2 of them. I got all of my gay questions out and here are the biggest answers, according to 2 gay men (so it's not the end all, be all truth):

1. Q: So, do you really like getting shit crammed up your butt? A: "Vaginas are as disgusting to me as assholes are to you. I literally want to gag just thinking about a vag.. It's an instinctual reaction"

2. Q: So, what's with all the flamers? A: "Flamers seem to be a social creation, a way for gay people to spot each other. I was born in Cali and live in NYC so I can just be who I am, but if I was born in say Kansas and was in a bar - I'd be terrified of getting my face stomped in for approaching the wrong guy, so some gay people put on an act to signify "I'M GAY!" to other gay people. That has grown into a culture and then a stereotype. Insecure people also put on an act, like overly macho men or overly fem girls"

Second one makes a lot of sense.

Yeah, the roommate who shared this wisdom with me used the F word all the time to differentiate between gay people and GAY! people..He would even say "God, I hate f*gs." Of course, his partner had words with me the one time I used the word, so I guess it's a lot like the N word.

 

[Gooberlx2]

Originally posted by: IHateMyJob2004
"Question for gay men"

I skimmed all the posts. I haven't seen any actual responses from gay people.

If you hadn't just skimmed all the posts, you would have seen there have been responses from gay men.

 

[K1052]

As to the OP: It's a pile of disingenuous garbage with nice helping of very thinly veiled bigotry and disgorged in an extremely condescending tone.

Anyone who knows his posting history knows perfectly well that the OP is not in any way "on the sidelines".

 

[swbsam]

Originally posted by: K1052
As to the OP: It's a pile of disingenuous garbage with nice helping of very thinly veiled bigotry and disgorged in an extremely condescending tone.

Anyone who knows his posting history knows perfectly well that the OP is not in any way "on the sidelines".

Well, I think it's OK to ask questions, as long as you're open to the answers.

 

[K1052]

Originally posted by: swbsam

Originally posted by: K1052
As to the OP: It's a pile of disingenuous garbage with nice helping of very thinly veiled bigotry and disgorged in an extremely condescending tone.

Anyone who knows his posting history knows perfectly well that the OP is not in any way "on the sidelines".

Well, I think it's OK to ask questions, as long as you're open to the answers.

That's where the disingenuous part comes in...

 

[swbsam]

Originally posted by: K1052

Originally posted by: swbsam

Originally posted by: K1052
As to the OP: It's a pile of disingenuous garbage with nice helping of very thinly veiled bigotry and disgorged in an extremely condescending tone.

Anyone who knows his posting history knows perfectly well that the OP is not in any way "on the sidelines".

Well, I think it's OK to ask questions, as long as you're open to the answers.

That's where the disingenuous part comes in...

Then I hope this thread is useful for other people, who are willing to let go of ignorance and fear in favor of enlightenment.

Personally, I never understood gay people until I lived among them and asked questions. Heck, I still wish that I had a black friend so I can ask them un-pc questions about black culture.

 

[InflatableBuddha]

Originally posted by: K1052
As to the OP: It's a pile of disingenuous garbage with nice helping of very thinly veiled bigotry and disgorged in an extremely condescending tone.

Anyone who knows his posting history knows perfectly well that the OP is not in any way "on the sidelines".

1) I agree the OP is a bigoted troll, it's plainly obvious.

2) Perez Hilton pisses me off, but not because he's flamboyant or a flamer. I don't even notice that. Seriously. Even heterosexual tabloid stars (ET or whatever) piss me off, but because of their profession.

[rant] I think reporting on the lives of "stars" is invasive, exploitative and is responsible for the intellectual castration of our society. In addition, it unjustifiably enhances the social status of empty values such as fame, material overconsumption and unrealistic physical appearance. Hollywood and tabloids are ruining us. [/rant]

3) /Back to my lawnchair to watch the rest of this train wreck.

 

[evident]

i fucking hate perez hilton. does that make me a bigot

 

[Newbian]

How is this thread still unlocked?

 

[K1052]

Originally posted by: InflatableBuddha

Originally posted by: K1052
As to the OP: It's a pile of disingenuous garbage with nice helping of very thinly veiled bigotry and disgorged in an extremely condescending tone.

Anyone who knows his posting history knows perfectly well that the OP is not in any way "on the sidelines".

1) I agree the OP is a bigoted troll, it's plainly obvious.

2) Perez Hilton pisses me off, but not because he's flamboyant or a flamer. I don't even notice that. Seriously. Even heterosexual tabloid stars (ET or whatever) piss me off, but because of their profession.

[rant] I think reporting on the lives of "stars" is invasive, exploitative and is responsible for the intellectual castration of our society. In addition, it unjustifiably enhances the social status of empty values such as fame, material overconsumption and unrealistic physical appearance. Hollywood and tabloids are ruining us. [/rant]

3) /Back to my lawnchair to watch the rest of this train wreck.

Hilton is another attention whoring media leech who just happens to be an effeminate gay fitting some of our worst of stereotypes, I don't pay him or any of his ilk much mind.

 

[grrl]

Originally posted by: TechBoyJK

Originally posted by: peritusONE

Originally posted by: TechBoyJK
Just for the record.. I don't hate gays. My lawyer is gay and he doesn't act like anything less than a normal man.

I was waiting for the inevitable "I don't hate gays, I have friends who are gay" statement, but then you pulled THAT gem out of your pocket.

How else am I supposed to put it that I'm tolerant? I know they "I have a gay friend" sounds sour to some, but should I say "I don't have any gay friends cause im scared of them"?

It doesn't bother me to be around gay people. What bothers me is super creepy clown acting douches like Perez Hilton get in my bubble.

You can claim all the tolerance you want, but since Perez Hilton bothers you so much, you equate him with pedophilia and you use terms like "normal man" shows you obviously aren't tolerant or very clear thinking.

 

[Suspicious-Teach8788]

Originally posted by: mrSHEiK124

Originally posted by: swbsam

Originally posted by: JS80

Originally posted by: swbsam
I've lived with 3 gay men (and 2 straight women - it was a huge apartment) and became quite good friends with 2 of them. I got all of my gay questions out and here are the biggest answers, according to 2 gay men (so it's not the end all, be all truth):

1. Q: So, do you really like getting shit crammed up your butt? A: "Vaginas are as disgusting to me as assholes are to you. I literally want to gag just thinking about a vag.. It's an instinctual reaction"

2. Q: So, what's with all the flamers? A: "Flamers seem to be a social creation, a way for gay people to spot each other. I was born in Cali and live in NYC so I can just be who I am, but if I was born in say Kansas and was in a bar - I'd be terrified of getting my face stomped in for approaching the wrong guy, so some gay people put on an act to signify "I'M GAY!" to other gay people. That has grown into a culture and then a stereotype. Insecure people also put on an act, like overly macho men or overly fem girls"

lol shens on (1).

Nope, it's what one of my roommates said. I'm not saying he speaks for all gay people, but in his case he's repulsed by female nudity.

Ehhh, I'm still gonna call shens on 1. "VOTE SHENS ON 1."

When I see hotties on TV, let's see this is ATOT, Jessica Alba and Megan Fox, I label them as "would put the straight back in a gay man."

Originally posted by: JS80
There are gays and there are cigarette butts. Perez falls under cigarette butts.

Your answer is oddly satisfying.

LoL, that's like saying seeing Brad Pitt or Ryan Seacrest or Christian Bale or whomever people deem is hot will turn you gay in no time.

 

[n yusef]

LOL at the misinformation, prejudice and bigotry in this thread.

 

[zinfamous]

Originally posted by: TechBoyJK
I'll admit, I've been a bit of a homophobe growing up. I was raised in church and always thought that homosexuality was sinful, but never saw it as anything really 'damning'.

It always creeped me out when I got hit on by gay guys. But I'll admit, most gay guys come across as normal men.

However, whats up with the weird, obviously a little sick in the head, overly feminine, flamboyant attention grabbing guys like Perez that think it's neat to be associated to queens and female behavior?

As someone on the sidelines, trying not to be a bigot about it all, hoping to protect marriage as an instituation between men and women, but open to accept whatever my society votes in favor for, and more than willing to vote in favor of civil unions, I look at someone like Perez who is "flaming gay" and have no choice but think they they aren't "well". My perception of him is that he is both physically and pychologically sick, there is some clear chemical imbalance going on in his body (much like someone who is clinically depressed) and think "one day, i'm sure there will be medication that will straighten him out and get him functioning like a properly developed male" again. It's his type that make me think he is equally as sick as someone who is clinically depressed, or if not that bad, at least chemically messed up enough to affect their normal behavior.

Just for the record.. I don't hate gays. My lawyer is gay and he doesn't act like anything less than a normal man. I never even knew he was gay until someone told me. It's the weird clowns like Perez that make me wonder. Is it just an act? Like "Im gay, I need act gay because I'm special"

they do it to piss you off, I think. (because clearly you need it). I know many gay men that are extremely "normal." Really wouldn't imagine they were gay by appearance or personality, save for their uncompromising design sense...

I'm also aware that many "normal" gays don't always get along with the super flamers form time to time, but whatever.

Maybe you just need to watch more Golden Girls?

(Edited to emphasize inflection/intent)