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Originally posted by: icejunkie
I wouldn't say more intelligent, I'd say I keep a much more open mind... I can accept both arguments, but can't accept only one... It just seems impossible to me to either say a God and/or Gods exist or doesn't exist and make it that clear cut... You have no evidence for either side...
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well said
 
Originally posted by: dullard
Originally posted by: Mo0o
What about
5) Some people think things over carefuly and choose agnosticism
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That is a religion and thus fits #3. Sure, it is a strange religion. But there are even agnostic churches.
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Since when?

How can numerous people believe in different things yet follow the same belief?

I thought the whole part of religion was the fact that you believed in the same "god", surely that can't be the case with agnostic people?

Correct me if I'm wrong..
 
Originally posted by: no0b
Originally posted by: dullard
Originally posted by: Mo0o
What about
5) Some people think things over carefuly and choose agnosticism
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That is a religion and thus fits #3. Sure, it is a strange religion. But there are even agnostic churches.
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Link of said agnostic churches?
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I've never heard of an agnostic church 😕
 
Originally posted by: Mo0o
Originally posted by: no0b
Originally posted by: dullard
Originally posted by: Mo0o
What about
5) Some people think things over carefuly and choose agnosticism
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That is a religion and thus fits #3. Sure, it is a strange religion. But there are even agnostic churches.
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Link of said agnostic churches?
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I've never heard of an agnostic church 😕
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Well since Aethists have a chruch they must be a religion also. (by your logic)

First hit on google for search "agnostic church"
 
Originally posted by: no0b
Well since Aethists have a chruch they must be a religion also.
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Good. Problem solved. We are now all religious and there will no longer be tension, flaming threads, etc. in the world anymore. Or realize that athiesm cannot be considered a religion in the common sense of the term. Agnosticism can.

 
Originally posted by: dullard
Originally posted by: no0b
Well since Aethists have a chruch they must be a religion also.
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Good. Problem solved. We are now all religious and there will no longer be tension, flaming threads, etc. in the world anymore. Or realize that athiesm cannot be considered a religion in the common sense of the term. Agnosticism can.
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Are you sure Agnosticism can? How can it be?
 
Originally posted by: mercanucaribe
I'm a firm believer in Santa Claus. Anyone who doesn't is stupid, but still believes that he or she is smarter! There IS A SANTA CLAUS!
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Well, we can't know for sure whether or not Santa exists, so I'm agnostic about him.
 
Originally posted by: icejunkie
I wouldn't say more intelligent, I'd say I keep a much more open mind... I can accept both arguments, but can't accept only one... It just seems impossible to me to either say a God and/or Gods exist or doesn't exist and make it that clear cut... You have no evidence for either side...
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Gotta agree, however I do feel more superior to the zealots that are very annoying to everybody else but themselves.
 
I believed I was more intelligent and logically superior to religious people back when I was agnostic.
 
Originally posted by: no0b
Are you sure Agnosticism can? How can it be?
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There are quite a wide variety of agnostic people. However, They all share one common thread: agnostics believe that a supreme being / supernatural powers can exist. The definition of religion is: belief in a supreme being / supernational powers. That is just as damn close as you can get. People sharing a common belief. That is a religion.

Athiesm is the exact opposite. Disbelief in a sumpreme being and disbelief in supernatural powers. Thus by definition it cannot be a religion - even if people share that same disbelief.

 
Originally posted by: EGGO
Originally posted by: icejunkie
I wouldn't say more intelligent, I'd say I keep a much more open mind... I can accept both arguments, but can't accept only one... It just seems impossible to me to either say a God and/or Gods exist or doesn't exist and make it that clear cut... You have no evidence for either side...
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Gotta agree, however I do feel more superior to the zealots that are very annoying to everybody else but themselves.
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I must agree w/ you about the zealots... actually they are all probably intelligent people, they just don't have lives.
 
Originally posted by: dullard
Originally posted by: no0b
Are you sure Agnosticism can? How can it be?
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There are quite a wide variety of agnostic people. However, They all share one common thread: agnostics believe that a supreme being / supernatural powers can exist. The definition of religion is: belief in a supreme being / supernational powers. That is just as damn close as you can get. People sharing a common belief. That is a religion.

Athiesm is the exact opposite. Disbelief in a sumpreme being and disbelief in supernatural powers. Thus by definition it cannot be a religion - even if people share that same disbelief.
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http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=religion

Do you accept the above definition of religion?

According to the fourth definition, religion is not exclusive to the belief in god/gods.(are definitions on that site exclusive in themselves?)

I think religion (a very broad term) can be used to describe atheists and agnostics.

IE: I believe that if you ask someone their religious affiliation and they respond "I dont have one I'm agnostic/atheist." I think they are wrong in saying they have no religious affiliation.


Also definition 3 is not exclusive of belief in god/gods.
 
Originally posted by: no0b
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=religion

Do you accept the above definition of religion?

According to the fourth definition, religion is not exclusive to the belief in god/gods.(are definitions on that site exclusive in themselves?)
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Once you get to the fourth and last definition on one dictionary and which is not in the other dictionaries, then to me it goes past my "common sense of the term" limitation in this discussion.

 
Originally posted by: kstu
Do you feel that you are more intelligent then believers/religious people and if so, why?
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No. Do belivers/religious people feel they are more intelligent than agnostic/atheist people?
 
Originally posted by: kstu
Do you feel that you are more intelligent then believers/religious people and if so, why?
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No. Einstein believed in a god. I don't think I'm more intelligent than he was (at least re:science 😉 )
 
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