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Question about "To Catch A Predator".

DaTT

DaTT

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I stumbled on a few of these episodes on youtube, just a quick question. Can these guys be charged? I assume the "decoys" that are used are of age, just pretending to be underage.
 
IANAL

They can be charged. Pretending to be underage is not a crime. Going to meet someone you THINK is underage, for the purpose of committing a crime, IS a crime.
 
yes they can be charged and if you watched the episodes they tell you what happens to everyone at the end of them.

noob.
 
Zeze said:
Isn't that entrapment?

Technically, what IS an entrapment then?
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it isn't entrapment because it is not the police doing the baiting. the police are doing their own investigation along with the company perverted justice. the first few episodes the people did not get arrested. it wasn't until a few episodes in that the police started getting involved.

additionally, the decoys don't initiate the sexual conversations.

<--- seen every episode about 10x
 
Zeze said:
Isn't that entrapment?

Technically, what IS an entrapment then?
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Entrapment = trying to lure a person into a crime they otherwise would not commit.

IE: Fake hooker asks guy in a bar if he wants to hook up for $100 is entrapment as the guy had no intention of trying to pick up a hooker.

Guy pulls up to fake hooker on a corner and asks for her price list is a crime because he instigated things.
 
GagHalfrunt said:
Entrapment = trying to lure a person into a crime they otherwise would not commit.

IE: Fake hooker asks guy in a bar if he wants to hook up for $100 is entrapment as the guy had no intention of trying to pick up a hooker.

Guy pulls up to fake hooker on a corner and asks for her price list is a crime because he instigated things.
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Fake hooker can offer him a date, because dating isn't illegal. When he asks how much, he's brought money into it, which makes it prostitution.
 
Couldn't this all be avoided simply by the predo asking "Are you affiliated with or working in any capacity for any law enforcement agency?"

If they say no, then it probably becomes entrapment.
 
SunnyD said:
Couldn't this all be avoided simply by the predo asking "Are you affiliated with or working in any capacity for any law enforcement agency?"

If they say no, then it probably becomes entrapment.
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bwhahahahhaha :biggrin:
 
sixone said:
IANAL

They can be charged. Pretending to be underage is not a crime. Going to meet someone you THINK is underage, for the purpose of committing a crime, IS a crime.
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I understand the premise behind it, but couldn't a defense lawyer call the "decoy" to the stand, ask her her age and if it is above the legal age of consent say "Thank you, no crime committed".

Although, thinking more into this, the police set up their own stings doing this sort of thing....but are they random pedo's or people they actually have incriminating evidence on.
 
sixone said:
Fake hooker can offer him a date, because dating isn't illegal. When he asks how much, he's brought money into it, which makes it prostitution.
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Ask if she would like to do some nude modeling. It's not illegal, and a cop would never say yes 😉
 
SunnyD said:
Couldn't this all be avoided simply by the predo asking "Are you affiliated with or working in any capacity for any law enforcement agency?"

If they say no, then it probably becomes entrapment.
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except that the decoys aren't affiliated with law enforcement at all.
 
DaTT said:
I understand the premise behind it, but couldn't a defense lawyer call the "decoy" to the stand, ask her her age and if it is above the legal age of consent say "Thank you, no crime committed".

Although, thinking more into this, the police set up their own stings doing this sort of thing....but are they random pedo's or people they actually have incriminating evidence on.
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nope. it is all about intent. it doesn't matter if they go through with it or not. i mean these guys aren't even having sex with underage girls or anything and they still get charged. but their initial intent is to have sex with them.
 
purbeast0 said:
except that the decoys aren't affiliated with law enforcement at all.
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Except they are - since the show is coordinating with local law enforcement in order to set up these stings. They essentially are working as an agent for law enforcement in this case. (IANAL)

Personally, I think the whole thing is bullshit anyway. Yeah, I'm all for getting pedo's off the street. But they are basically entrapping people who haven't committed any crime (at that particular time, not saying they haven't committed crimes in the past though).
 
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