question about new oil find in the Gulf.

[moshquerade]

Originally posted by: mercanucaribe
You folks need to take some geology classes. There are some important facts that are missing from this thread. First, pretty much all sedimentary rocks are made of material deposited by water. ALL limestone was deposited in marine environments-- it's made of coral, etc. As previous posts have mentioned, the deposition and erosion are happening constantly. Organic material builds up in swamps and gets covered up. Then it happens again, and again. Oil is by definition organic... postulating that the earth can be creating oil without organic material is like saying that it's creating wood out of rocks. I have no idea why ideas like that persist on this forum. It's as if one wacko posts something and then contrarians latch on.

And the earth isn't getting bigger. It is getting smaller because of cooling. Tectonic activity involves plates moving, and since the Atlantic ocean is expanding, the Pacific is shrinking-- the ocean floor is being subducted under north America and the entire "Ring of Fire", the volcanoes around the Pacific Ocean.

the earth is shrinking? are we gonna fall off? :Q

 

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: So

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
God saw how Katrina affected the US economy and decided to put it there to reward us for electing GWB and focusing on Christian conservative values.

:laugh:

:beer:

did that post get deleted?

 

[moshquerade]

Originally posted by: ElFenix

Originally posted by: So

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
God saw how Katrina affected the US economy and decided to put it there to reward us for electing GWB and focusing on Christian conservative values.

:laugh:

:beer:

did that post get deleted?

i'm going with yes.


but it lives! it lives! :laugh:

now, i'm wondering.... did Jules get deleted too? :Q

 

[mercanucaribe]

Originally posted by: Citrix

Originally posted by: desy
Most petroleum geologists prefer theories of oil formation which hold that oil originated in shallow seas as vast quantities of marine plankton which died and sank into the mud at the bottom under anaerobic conditions that prevented biodegradation. Under these conditions, anaerobic bacteria converted the lipids (fats, oils and waxes) into a waxy substance called kerogen.

As the source rock was buried deeper, overburden pressure raised temperatures into the oil window, between 60 and 120 degrees C, in which thermal depolymerization broke up the kerogen molecules into the straight-chain hydrocarbons that make up most of petroleum. Once crude oil formed, it became very fluid, and migrated upward through the rock strata. Eventually it was either trapped in an oil reservoir or oil escaped to the surface and was biodegraded by soil bacteria.

thats the theory i have heard as well but i dont put much faith in it.

What theory do you put faith in?

 

[BooGiMaN]

until i hear otherwise i will continue to belive its from an alien space cruiser that crashed on eath milions of years ago that was hauling oil for the robot people of planet roboto IV in the kossoranzm nebula

 

[OutHouse]

Originally posted by: mercanucaribe

Originally posted by: Citrix

Originally posted by: desy
Most petroleum geologists prefer theories of oil formation which hold that oil originated in shallow seas as vast quantities of marine plankton which died and sank into the mud at the bottom under anaerobic conditions that prevented biodegradation. Under these conditions, anaerobic bacteria converted the lipids (fats, oils and waxes) into a waxy substance called kerogen.

As the source rock was buried deeper, overburden pressure raised temperatures into the oil window, between 60 and 120 degrees C, in which thermal depolymerization broke up the kerogen molecules into the straight-chain hydrocarbons that make up most of petroleum. Once crude oil formed, it became very fluid, and migrated upward through the rock strata. Eventually it was either trapped in an oil reservoir or oil escaped to the surface and was biodegraded by soil bacteria.

thats the theory i have heard as well but i dont put much faith in it.

What theory do you put faith in?

I dunno right now. but i still fail to see how such a large deposit of oil 7 miles down into the earth is the product of plankton decomposing.

 

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: HomeBrewerDude

Originally posted by: Aflac

Originally posted by: HomeBrewerDude
well, considering that hte Himilayas didn't exist 200 million years ago (nearly 5 miles high), I would say that the bottom of the gulf coast used to be a lot nearer to sea level.

It's probably easier for tectonics to create high peaks than bury something.

I doubt that... After all, our oceans are created by tectonic movement. In the case of this particular oil field, normal sedimentation probably created and eventually buried the oil (only a mile under the sea floor), while at the same time the gulf area began sinking.

it's 20,000 feet under the sea floor. hardly 'only a mile'.


and it isn't 7 miles down. the well's total depth from the surface is 28,175 feet. it's just over 5 miles deep. (or, as the houston chronicle put it, the distance from downtown to reliant stadium)

 

[OutHouse]

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: ElFenix

Originally posted by: So

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
God saw how Katrina affected the US economy and decided to put it there to reward us for electing GWB and focusing on Christian conservative values.

:laugh:

:beer:

did that post get deleted?

i'm going with yes.


but it lives! it lives! :laugh:

now, i'm wondering.... did Jules get deleted too? :Q

vacation or bannage? that is the question.

 

[moshquerade]

Originally posted by: Citrix

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: ElFenix

Originally posted by: So

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
God saw how Katrina affected the US economy and decided to put it there to reward us for electing GWB and focusing on Christian conservative values.

:laugh:

:beer:

did that post get deleted?

i'm going with yes.


but it lives! it lives! :laugh:

now, i'm wondering.... did Jules get deleted too? :Q

vacation or bannage? that is the question.

 

[imported_Zeke]

Originally posted by: Citrix

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: ElFenix

Originally posted by: So

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
God saw how Katrina affected the US economy and decided to put it there to reward us for electing GWB and focusing on Christian conservative values.

:laugh:

:beer:

did that post get deleted?

i'm going with yes.


but it lives! it lives! :laugh:

now, i'm wondering.... did Jules get deleted too? :Q

vacation or bannage? that is the question.

Somebody is swinging a big stick around here lately, last night i had a topic locked for no reason.

 

[ElFenix]

he just made a lexus post a couple minutes ago...

 

[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: Citrix

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: ElFenix

Originally posted by: So

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
God saw how Katrina affected the US economy and decided to put it there to reward us for electing GWB and focusing on Christian conservative values.

:laugh:

:beer:

did that post get deleted?

i'm going with yes.


but it lives! it lives! :laugh:

now, i'm wondering.... did Jules get deleted too? :Q

vacation or bannage? that is the question.

Yeah, I'm kind of wondering about that myself...

WTF was wrong with my post??? :|

 

[moshquerade]

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: Citrix

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: ElFenix

Originally posted by: So

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
God saw how Katrina affected the US economy and decided to put it there to reward us for electing GWB and focusing on Christian conservative values.

:laugh:

:beer:

did that post get deleted?

i'm going with yes.


but it lives! it lives! :laugh:

now, i'm wondering.... did Jules get deleted too? :Q

vacation or bannage? that is the question.

Yeah, I'm kind of wondering about that myself...

WTF was wrong with my post??? :|

maybe the republican mod is on :Q

 

[So]

Wow...wtf. Yeah there was a post.

 

[HomeBrewerDude]

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: Citrix

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: ElFenix

Originally posted by: So

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
God saw how Katrina affected the US economy and decided to put it there to reward us for electing GWB and focusing on Christian conservative values.

:laugh:

:beer:

did that post get deleted?

i'm going with yes.


but it lives! it lives! :laugh:

now, i'm wondering.... did Jules get deleted too? :Q

vacation or bannage? that is the question.

Yeah, I'm kind of wondering about that myself...

WTF was wrong with my post??? :|

maybe the republican mod is on :Q

Well, we are coming up on an election...

 

[jlbenedict]

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: mercanucaribe
You folks need to take some geology classes. There are some important facts that are missing from this thread. First, pretty much all sedimentary rocks are made of material deposited by water. ALL limestone was deposited in marine environments-- it's made of coral, etc. As previous posts have mentioned, the deposition and erosion are happening constantly. Organic material builds up in swamps and gets covered up. Then it happens again, and again. Oil is by definition organic... postulating that the earth can be creating oil without organic material is like saying that it's creating wood out of rocks. I have no idea why ideas like that persist on this forum. It's as if one wacko posts something and then contrarians latch on.

And the earth isn't getting bigger. It is getting smaller because of cooling. Tectonic activity involves plates moving, and since the Atlantic ocean is expanding, the Pacific is shrinking-- the ocean floor is being subducted under north America and the entire "Ring of Fire", the volcanoes around the Pacific Ocean.

the earth is shrinking? are we gonna fall off? :Q

aah.. come on.. don't you know the Earth is flat

 

[imported_Zeke]

maybe the republican mod is on :Q

Republicans don't have a sense of humor?

 

[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: Citrix

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: ElFenix

Originally posted by: So

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
God saw how Katrina affected the US economy and decided to put it there to reward us for electing GWB and focusing on Christian conservative values.

:laugh:

:beer:

did that post get deleted?

i'm going with yes.


but it lives! it lives! :laugh:

now, i'm wondering.... did Jules get deleted too? :Q

vacation or bannage? that is the question.

Yeah, I'm kind of wondering about that myself...

WTF was wrong with my post??? :|

maybe the republican mod is on :Q

Heaven forbid someone make a joke about christian conservatives or religion...:roll:

If we can't do that in this country George Carlin will have to find a new line of work.

 

[imported_Zeke]

Heaven forbid someone make a joke about christian conservatives or religion...:roll:

If we can't do that in this country George Carlin will have to find a new line of work.

George Carlin is still working?

 

[So]

Originally posted by: jlbenedict

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: mercanucaribe
You folks need to take some geology classes. There are some important facts that are missing from this thread. First, pretty much all sedimentary rocks are made of material deposited by water. ALL limestone was deposited in marine environments-- it's made of coral, etc. As previous posts have mentioned, the deposition and erosion are happening constantly. Organic material builds up in swamps and gets covered up. Then it happens again, and again. Oil is by definition organic... postulating that the earth can be creating oil without organic material is like saying that it's creating wood out of rocks. I have no idea why ideas like that persist on this forum. It's as if one wacko posts something and then contrarians latch on.

And the earth isn't getting bigger. It is getting smaller because of cooling. Tectonic activity involves plates moving, and since the Atlantic ocean is expanding, the Pacific is shrinking-- the ocean floor is being subducted under north America and the entire "Ring of Fire", the volcanoes around the Pacific Ocean.

the earth is shrinking? are we gonna fall off? :Q

aah.. come on.. don't you know the Earth is flat

Actually it's more of a convex dish, like DirecTV(tm)

 

[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: Zeke

Heaven forbid someone make a joke about christian conservatives or religion...:roll:

If we can't do that in this country George Carlin will have to find a new line of work.

George Carlin is still working?

Maybe GWB forced him into retirement?

 

[imported_Zeke]

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: Zeke

Heaven forbid someone make a joke about christian conservatives or religion...:roll:

If we can't do that in this country George Carlin will have to find a new line of work.

George Carlin is still working?

Maybe GWB forced him into retirement?

That or people got tired of hearing about his ear wax.

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Heaven forbid someone make a joke about christian conservatives or religion...:roll:

If we can't do that in this country George Carlin will have to find a new line of work.

The difference between you and George Carlin in this case is that Carlin's jokes are actually intelligent, while yours belonged in P&N.

 

[Thraxen]

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Heaven forbid someone make a joke about christian conservatives or religion...:roll:

If we can't do that in this country George Carlin will have to find a new line of work.

Religious people, especially Christians, are normally bashed with impunity on this forum, I'm actually surprised a rather harmless joke like that post got deleted.

 

[imported_Zeke]

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Heaven forbid someone make a joke about christian conservatives or religion...:roll:

If we can't do that in this country George Carlin will have to find a new line of work.

The difference between you and George Carlin in this case is that Carlin's jokes are actually intelligent, while yours belonged in P&N.

Again...see ear wax.