Question about how homophobic you are:

[onelin]

Being in the nude in a locker room at a gym is pretty common, another gym-goer here. As long as the dude didn't 'drift' over to you in the tub I think you're in the clear.

 

[NetWareHead]

I don't mind walking around the locker room naked if I'm leaving the shower and heading towards my locker or into the steam room. What I do mind is the guys who must must do everything in the locker room naked. The old dudes shaving, blow drying their hair and just BS'ing with one another without any clothes. Being naked is unavoidable but can't you put on some clothes if you came out of the shower already? Sometimes a little more modesty is called for. I'll wear a towel in the sauna or steam room, only because I can't bring myself to sit on the same surface that every other naked guy sits on. All sorts of nastiness living on those benches :disgust:

 

[SXMP]

Originally posted by: phatj
I don't think people go in hot tubs nude... I've been in many and never seen anyone go in there nude (especially public hot tubs, what's wrong with u?). Unless of course you are alone with your girlfriend and want to make hot passionate hot tub intercourse. What does homophobia have to do with your post? "Homophobia" and not approving of homosexuality are two totally different things. If someone is homophobic, they are afraid of gay people and gay acts. It annoys me that people who don't approve of or embrace homosexuality are labelled "homophobic".

Pardon my ignorance, but I think you are trying to argue against something that I'm not saying.

"Homophobia" and not approving of homosexuality are two totally different things." The way I read that, its like saying that what I did was somehow homosexual. And that isn't the case. I was using homophobia to express how people imply things are gay based upon their ignorance because they are afraid of it. To me, that seems pretty damn close to its normal usage.

For you to imply that being it a hot tub nude is a homosexual act, then you're expressing your opinion, but my opinion is that you're ignorant.

EDIT: Also, since you're going use semantics, I pose this for your thinking:
"Unless of course you are alone with your girlfriend" Given that you are expecting me to be politically correct, and given the topic, wouldn't you at least say "are alone with your significant other" or partner, or somethign to that effect. I mean basically, unless I missed the sarcasm, you were implying I was homosexual, and then you are saying girlfriend. I think you need to sit back man and rethink what you are saying.

 

[RaynorWolfcastle]

While nude men walking around in locker rooms is frequent, it's not something that I would personally do. I mean seriously no one wants to see your schlong flopping all over the place as you discuss the day's news with your tennis partner. Is it so damn difficult to wrap a damn towel around your waist?

You want to go in the hot tub, wear swim trunks. Sauna? Towel around the waist.

 

[Siddhartha]

Either you are gay or you are not. If you are not gay and your sister or whoever thinks you are then she is wrong. People make mistakes all the time. You have to stop caring about what other people think about you.

 

[AvesPKS]

Are you Irish, Italian, or Polish?

 

[0roo0roo]

i guess it could be just that he's comfortable with his body.. or arrogant and wanting to show whos top dog...in an in your face sorta way heh.

and no, i wouldn't find it comfortable, i'd rather not see your thingie. if i wanted to see it, i'd ask.

and on a homophobic meter i'm pretty low. i watch queer as folk for fsck sake but there are limits.

 

[StageLeft]

I've been in many gyms and although I often see surely heterosexual males fully nude, generally they try to minimize exposure. Maybe from shower to locker room, and boxers on first thing. Sometimes though a guy will really go out of his way to stay nude as long as possible. My overall comfort level is that nudity should only be in the dark with one's SO No guy has ever seen me nude (except my dad when I was a kid in swimming poll locker rooms and what not

 

[datalink7]

Originally posted by: Skoorb
I've been in many gyms and although I often see surely heterosexual males fully nude, generally they try to minimize exposure. Maybe from shower to locker room, and boxers on first thing. Sometimes though a guy will really go out of his way to stay nude as long as possible. My overall comfort level is that nudity should only be in the dark with one's SO No guy has ever seen me nude (except my dad when I was a kid in swimming poll locker rooms and what not

Freudian slip? :Q:Q

 

[T2T III]

what it comes down to, is that my sister apparently (as well as many people) associate nudity instantly with sex.

Does that mean she likes sex, or is opposed to it?

 

[Cuda1447]

Although I don't think it makes you gay for getting in a hot tub naked with another guy, I don't see why you would do it? I don't know you so I can't guess one way or another, but it definetly is kinda weird that you would want to just go chill in a hot tub with another guy naked....

 

[Kadarin]

Originally posted by: Tiles2Tech

what it comes down to, is that my sister apparently (as well as many people) associate nudity instantly with sex.

Does that mean she likes sex, or is opposed to it?

I think we can thank past religious fundamentalism in Western culture for the equation of nudity with sex. His sister probably likes sex, but wishes it to be a private act and is uncomfortable with public nudity for this reason. As Skoorb says, in the dark with one's s/o.

 

[SXMP]

To clarify again, I definatley did the towel thing while walking from the locker to the shower and from the shower to the hot tub and the hot tub to the sauna. And there was no way I was going to sit in the sauna without the towel below me so I just kept it wrapped.

I guess I wasn't specific on that. And yeah, I know who I am and I am okay with it. In general I rarley care what people think of me, it just struck really hard how oddly my mom and sister reacted to it.

And to answer Cuda:
Its not the act of getting in a hot tub with another guy naked. Its relaxing in a hot tub and talking, remember this guy is my friend, but part of the hot tub (not etiquette) but normalcy is going in it nude. From what I could gather, it seems like a normal thing at least at this place.

And Astraroth33:
I completley agree with you.

AvesPKS:
majority polish

 

[speg]

I think that's fine, and nothing homosexual at all. ( What does going to the sauna/hot tub have to do with sexuality? Nothing. ) Unfortunatley, I do think that a lot of people in North America would see that as gay. I dunno why, that's just the culture. I know in asia and stuff guys walk down the streets holding hands just becasue they're buddies. ( ie. NOT gay - just friends ). That would never happen here....

 

[Schadenfroh]

homophobia is the crutch of those insecure of their sexuallity

 

[GeekDrew]

Originally posted by: Dr Smooth
Either you are gay or you are not. If you are not gay and your sister or whoever thinks you are then she is wrong. People make mistakes all the time. You have to stop caring about what other people think about you.

Originally posted by: Schadenfroh
homophobia is the crutch of those insecure of their sexuallity

Both of those quotes are words to live by.

I would personally be uncomfortable sitting in a hot tub with other people, naked, regardless of gender, unless we were either in a personal relationship together, or are VERY good friends. I can only think of a couple of people I would be comfortable being naked around like that... and I'm gay. I've slept in the same bed with men before, and some of them were straight. So? Just because we were in bed together doesn't mean we were lovers. We were tired. We slept.

And in response to Speg, that's all too true. Here's an interesting twist: I've held hands walking down the street in Lancaster (a city not far from here), with several friends (each on separate ocassions). I didn't think anything about it. If they did, they didn't voice anything about it. But the man I dated that lived in Lancaster? He wouldn't touch me in public, wouldn't even hold my hand walking down the street. I guess I can understand that, as he was still scared to death of what people though of him.

That's the key: You have to stop caring about what other people think of you. I do deeply care what my friends think of me, and I trust them to be honest. At the same time, I am very close to most of my friends, and we talk intimately. Note that all of them are straight, except for one. I just don't care what the general public thinks of me... my family... etc. My opinion is that if someone TRULY loves you, then it doesn't matter if you are gay/straight/bi/etc. They'll still love you.

And thus concludes my long winded post that applies to both this thread and the one about parents reaction to non-straight sexuality.

 

[PunDogg]

umm the club i go too, its 50/50, 50% of the males walk in the buff, and 50% walk with a towel, either way does not bother me, and i am straight male

Dogg

 

[murphy55d]

Originally posted by: caitlion
i know all the girls walk around naked at my gym... well like in the locker room, sauna, jacuzzi, and stuff. i dont though. too weird.

and i think gay guys shop at express for men .... the ones i know do anyway

pics?

 

[phatj]

Originally posted by: SXMP

Originally posted by: phatj
I don't think people go in hot tubs nude... I've been in many and never seen anyone go in there nude (especially public hot tubs, what's wrong with u?). Unless of course you are alone with your girlfriend and want to make hot passionate hot tub intercourse. What does homophobia have to do with your post? "Homophobia" and not approving of homosexuality are two totally different things. If someone is homophobic, they are afraid of gay people and gay acts. It annoys me that people who don't approve of or embrace homosexuality are labelled "homophobic".

Pardon my ignorance, but I think you are trying to argue against something that I'm <EM>not</EM> saying.

"Homophobia" and not approving of homosexuality are two totally different things." The way I read that, its like saying that what I did was somehow homosexual. And that isn't the case. I was using homophobia to express how people imply things are gay based upon their ignorance because they are afraid of it. To me, that seems pretty damn close to its normal usage.

For you to imply that being it a hot tub nude is a homosexual act, then you're expressing your opinion, but my opinion is that you're ignorant.

<STRONG>EDIT: </STRONG>Also, since you're going use semantics, I pose this for your thinking:
"Unless of course you are alone with your girlfriend" Given that you are expecting me to be politically correct, and given the topic, wouldn't you at least say "are alone with your significant other" or partner, or somethign to that effect. I mean basically, unless I missed the sarcasm, you were implying I was homosexual, and then you are saying girlfriend. I think you need to sit back man and rethink what you are saying.

1. I didn't say that what you did was homosexual. All I said was that "homophobia" is usually a misused term.
2. I never intended to imply that "beint in a hot tub nude" is a homosexual act. All I wanted to say was that I have never seen or heard of it.
3. Since you are a guy, I said "...in a hot tub with your girlfriend because I assumed you are heterosexual y reading your post.
You just misinterpreted almost my entire post. I wasn't pointing my rant of the common misuse of the term "homophobic" towards you, I was just making a general statement. I don't think you are gay... the only assumption I made is that you are heterosexual. I wasn't being sarcastic at all.

edit: Maybe you misinterpreted my original post because I said, "what's wrong with you?". I forget why I said that because I posted that a while ago - I just think that was my reaction to being in a hot tub, nude, with your boss. I just thought it was a bit odd, but then again I have limited "public hot tub/sauana" experience, but I never thought you were homosexual.

 

[MAME]

I was in a spa/locker room in a japanese hotel in LA and I ran around with a towel not to mention I had a swimsuit underneath. I'm far from homophobic, but that has nothing to do with my towel/swim wear. I just don't like being around people while I"m nude or their nude.

 

[notfred]

I can't beleive how much the human body bothers you people.

 

[TheVrolok]

I've walked outta the showers in gyms/dorms in the nude, I'm not one of those guys who towels off and wraps himself up while remaining in the little 1x1 shower stall. I think high school football and half the team in the showers at a time desensitized me to any kind of male nudity. I'm completely straight, and to me, what you did isn't a big deal at all.

 

[Kelemvor]

There's a club in downtown Milwaukee where all the old men swim naked in the pool. There's a normal "Family Pool" and there's the "Other" pool where the naked old men swim. The club decided to ban that and make swimming suits required and there was a huge uproar and protest and everything. Apparently they weren't getting many new members because most younger people thought it was gross.

Personally, I think it's gross when the old men (and from what my wife tells me, the old women are gross too) walk around naked. How hard is it to just put a towel around your waste ot put on some shorts or something. Yeah, you feel free or whatever, but it's nasty. No one wants to see you naked.

And it has nothign to do with being gay. I have many gay friends and I have no problem with that, but seeing naked old men is just nasty.

 

[Kenny1234]

Originally posted by: guapo337
I slept with another guy last night. In the same bed. Totally heterosexual.

I would have no problem with that.

But what if that guy spooned you?

 

[tweakmm]

Different cultures and different people have different levels of modesty, as long as he did not come on to you or try to grab your cack you really can't say whether he was gay or not. Although I have no problem with other people doing it, I like to be covered when I'm around other men and I don't think I would ever get into a hot tub naked with another man naked or otherwise. Saunas are either towel or bathing suit.