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There were a few comments from Qualcomm's Earning Call about the Ventana acquistion:

We also acquired Ventana Micro Systems, reinforcing our leadership and commitment to expanding the RISC V standard in ecosystem, and development of our high-performance RISC V CPU for data center workloads.
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We're executing on two fronts. It's CPU. We added a RISC V CPU now to our roadmap in addition to Oryon, which is ARM compatible.
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Sounds like they plan to offer both ARM and RISC-V for the datacenter. Maybe we will see Veyron V3 after all.
 
What to know about Windows 11, version 26H1

At this time, devices with Qualcomm Snapdragon® X2 Series processors will come with Windows 11, version 26H1.
  • Windows 11, version 26H1 will only be available on new devices with select new silicon as they come to market in early 2026.
  • Windows 11, version 26H1 is not offered as an in-place update from Windows 11, version 24H2 or 25H2 on existing devices.
  • Devices running Windows 11, version 26H1 will not be able to update to the next annual feature update in the second half of 2026. This is because Windows 11, version 26H1 is based on a different Windows core than Windows 11, versions 24H2 and 25H2, and the upcoming feature update. These devices will have a path to update in a future Windows release.
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Sounds like Qulacomm will get to beta test a new Windows version again.
 
mvprod123 said:
The TDP value is rather suspicious. I would like to see the actual power consumption.
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Charlie has an article up at semiaccurate about this. If you ignore the usual histrionics that accompany his articles he makes a good case. The only reason you invent a new way to measure power is because you suck in the existing ways of measuring power. If it was truly the case they thought their metric was better, they'd report it IN ADDITION TO existing metrics, not hide that information and only report their new bogus metric.

Obviously when systems are in the hands of quality (i.e. not bought off by Qualcomm) reviewers they'll be able to conduct proper power measurements so it won't affect the minority who pay attention to that stuff like those of us here. But what they're counting on is Best Buy et al putting Qualcomm's made up number in the system specs for typical consumers to unwittingly compare against Intel & AMD reported TDP values as if they are measuring the same thing.
 
Hesperax said:
Sounds like Qulacomm will get to beta test a new Windows version again.
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Hard to believe that after all this time they haven't fully merged the ARM and x86 Windows builds. Imagine if there were special versions of Linux for ARM, like if 6.17 was an ARM only release and x86 skipped from 6.16 to 6.18, but ARM couldn't upgrade to 6.18 and had to wait for a future version.
 
With chiplets being all the rage these days, does anybody know of Qualcomm's future plans concerning chiplets?

Perhaps Snapdragon X3 series might leverage them.
 
MerryCherry said:
With chiplets being all the rage these days, does anybody know of Qualcomm's future plans concerning chiplets?

Perhaps Snapdragon X3 series might leverage them.
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Eventually it will be the only sensible way to go, so it seems likely QC will do it out of necessity.

Overhead is still a consideration, but design costs per mm2 on state of the art fab nodes is considerably more, and will only become more so with every passing node generation.
 
mvprod123 said:
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The problem with these types of channels that take mostly paid reviews is... often their past content does not reflect the points they're stressing today. It quickly becomes obvious they're presenting the review guide bullet points more than their own thoughts and experience with the product. The product may be as good as advertised, but it's still more of a commercial than an independent assessment.

Here's a quote from another Lenovo laptop review from 1 year ago, using a CPU from another company (emphasis at the end is present in the tone of the reviewer as well):
What I do look for is an incredible display, an incredible battery life - often times I'm traveling without access to power - and a computer that's going to be versatile. I'm so sick of the years of having to change what I'm doing to suit the computer. I want a computer (for which) I don't have to change what I'm doing, it can handle all of it. That is exactly what Lenovo has delivered here.
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He goes out of his way to explain this computer already delivers on battery life and performance, without compromises. One year later he's stressing the stamina and performance compromises one has to make with computers such as this.
 
www.androidauthority.com

Snapdragon Wear Elite is here: The first Elite chip for watches and AI gadgets

First it was PCs, then it was phones. Now, Qualcomm has brought an Elite processor to smartwatches. Say hello to the Snapdragon Wear Elite.
www.androidauthority.com

"The new processor is manufactured on a 3nm process compared to the Snapdragon W5 Plus Gen 1’s already small 4nm design. However, the Wear Elite also brings a five-core CPU (1x big core at 2.1GHz and 4x little cores at 1.9GHz). Qualcomm hasn’t identified these cores, save for saying they’re not Oryon cores. Nevertheless, the company still promises an up to five-fold increase in single-threaded performance. The chip’s GPU also increases maximum FPS performance by up to 7x.
The Snapdragon Wear Elite brings improved AI hardware, starting with the embedded NPU. This supports low-power use cases like keyword/activity recognition and noise cancelation or suppression. This is also the first Snapdragon wearable chipset with a dedicated Hexagon NPU. Qualcomm says this enables on-device AI models with up to two billion parameters, as well as up to 10 tokens per second. It also mooted use cases like smart replies, text creation, text summaries, and fitness coaches.
Expect improved battery life and charging speed, too. The Snapdragon Wear Elite promises up to 30% longer days-of-use compared to previous silicon, as well as a 50% charge in just 10 minutes. The improved battery life also comes as smartwatch makers increasingly embrace silicon-carbon batteries, so don’t be surprised if these next-generation watches last significantly longer than previous models.
Finally, the new smartwatch and wearable chipset sports six different types of connectivity. This includes 5G RedCap (reduced capability), micro-power Wi-Fi, NB-NTN for satellite connectivity, Bluetooth 6.0, GNSS, and UWB. In saying so, Qualcomm clarified that OEMs don’t necessarily have to buy a version of this chipset with these connectivity features. In other words, don’t expect every smartwatch or wearable with this processor to have 5G, UWB, or satellite support."
 
mvprod123 said:
www.androidauthority.com

Qualcomm's next mobile connectivity chip ushers in the Wi-Fi 8 and Bluetooth 7 era

The Qualcomm FastConnect 8800 will debut in 2026 as the first chip with Wi-Fi 8, Bluetooth 7, Ultra Wideband, and Thread 1.5 all in one.
www.androidauthority.com
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Is Bluetooth 7 even a thing? I don’t see any literature on it. Latest revision is 6.2. Though by then it is likely to come out.
WiFi 8 is good for future proofing, but I doubt many people even have a WiFi 7 router.
mvprod123 said:
www.androidauthority.com

Qualcomm X105 is here: The modem to power Galaxy S27 and OnePlus 16?

Qualcomm has just announced the X105 modem, and it will likely appear in phones like the Galaxy S27, OnePlus 16, and Xiaomi 18 series.
www.androidauthority.com
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Good to see satellite connectivity get its due on the Android side.
 
mvprod123 said:
www.androidauthority.com

Snapdragon Wear Elite is here: The first Elite chip for watches and AI gadgets

First it was PCs, then it was phones. Now, Qualcomm has brought an Elite processor to smartwatches. Say hello to the Snapdragon Wear Elite.
www.androidauthority.com

"The new processor is manufactured on a 3nm process compared to the Snapdragon W5 Plus Gen 1’s already small 4nm design. However, the Wear Elite also brings a five-core CPU (1x big core at 2.1GHz and 4x little cores at 1.9GHz). Qualcomm hasn’t identified these cores, save for saying they’re not Oryon cores. Nevertheless, the company still promises an up to five-fold increase in single-threaded performance. The chip’s GPU also increases maximum FPS performance by up to 7x.
The Snapdragon Wear Elite brings improved AI hardware, starting with the embedded NPU. This supports low-power use cases like keyword/activity recognition and noise cancelation or suppression. This is also the first Snapdragon wearable chipset with a dedicated Hexagon NPU. Qualcomm says this enables on-device AI models with up to two billion parameters, as well as up to 10 tokens per second. It also mooted use cases like smart replies, text creation, text summaries, and fitness coaches.
Expect improved battery life and charging speed, too. The Snapdragon Wear Elite promises up to 30% longer days-of-use compared to previous silicon, as well as a 50% charge in just 10 minutes. The improved battery life also comes as smartwatch makers increasingly embrace silicon-carbon batteries, so don’t be surprised if these next-generation watches last significantly longer than previous models.
Finally, the new smartwatch and wearable chipset sports six different types of connectivity. This includes 5G RedCap (reduced capability), micro-power Wi-Fi, NB-NTN for satellite connectivity, Bluetooth 6.0, GNSS, and UWB. In saying so, Qualcomm clarified that OEMs don’t necessarily have to buy a version of this chipset with these connectivity features. In other words, don’t expect every smartwatch or wearable with this processor to have 5G, UWB, or satellite support."
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Why no Oryon CPU? Can it not scale down to these wattages?
 
The WiFi 8 chip is pretty interesting... First mobile design using 4x4 radios which should increase throughput noticeably compared to commonplace 2x2 radios.
 
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