Discussion Qualcomm Snapdragon Thread

[CouncilorIrissa]

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the iGPU segmentation is disgusting here, the lowest end SKU just loses almost half of its frequency. wtf

 

[adroc_thurston]

the iGPU segmentation is disgusting here, the lowest end SKU just loses almost half of its frequency. wtf

I think they yoink'd the tits outta PMIC count.
That's why they bin an entire cluster out (to gut the voltage rails).

 

[mvprod123]

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SYCL support was already mentioned in one of their slides, now they have stated a timeline.

Blender first mentioned this when it presented support for the Vulkan backend and improvements to the performance of Adreno GPUs.

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"In the longer term (during 2026), the aim is to offer hardware‑accelerated ray tracing for Cycles on Snapdragon GPUs, making use of SYCL."

 

[poke01]

i gotta say the amount of laptop design wins for X2 is impressive

 

[regen1]

Blender first mentioned this when it presented support for the Vulkan backend and improvements to the performance of Adreno GPUs.

Blender for Windows on Arm — Blender Developers Blog

Past, present and future work to make Blender available for Windows on Arm.

code.blender.org

"In the longer term (during 2026), the aim is to offer hardware‑accelerated ray tracing for Cycles on Snapdragon GPUs, making use of SYCL."

Yeah, also after X2 Elite announcement last year there were some talks of it being done H1 2026, now they are specifying Q1.

 

[Doug S]

i gotta say the amount of laptop design wins for X2 is impressive

Didn't the original one have a lot of design wins, but despite that not a lot of sales?

 

[Thibsie]

Didn't the original one have a lot of design wins, but despite that not a lot of sales?

That’s what I remember.
Mmm how many OEMs (if any) are dependants on QC modem/wifi/bt chips ?

How can this influence willingness of OEMs to go with QC or at least on paper ?

 

[poke01]

Qualcomm 8 Elite Gen 6 could reach 5GHz minimum and a max of 6GHz in testing

 

[adroc_thurston]

Qualcomm 8 Elite Gen 6 could reach 5GHz minimum and a max of 6GHz in testing

I love when my hand accidentally melts on a random webpage

 

[mvprod123]

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Qualcomm 8 Elite Gen 6 could reach 5GHz minimum and a max of 6GHz in testing

Such savings in silicon will not lead to anything good.

 

[adroc_thurston]

Such savings in silicon will not lead to anything good.

it's not really savings in anything. N2 is just fast.

 

[techjunkie123]

We talking 6 GHz on a mobile chip? That's crazy.

If that pans out N2 really has some zoom zoom...

 

[adroc_thurston]

We talking 6 GHz on a mobile chip? That's crazy.

No, that's RVP fun times stuff.

If that pans out N2 really has some zoom zoom.

Yeah. Not for everyone, though.

 

[LightningZ71]

You still have to have the design chops to make use of the silicon's capabilities...

 

[jdubs03]

The X2 Elite Extreme tops out at 5.0 GHz. Seems reasonable that the limit he’s talking about with 5.5–6.0 GHz is for the X3 Elite Extreme.

The 5.0 GHz will be for the 8 Elite Gen 6.

 

[MerryCherry]

The X2 Elite Extreme tops out at 5.0 GHz. Seems reasonable that the limit he’s talking about with 5.5–6.0 GHz is for the X3 Elite Extreme.

The 5.0 GHz will be for the 8 Elite Gen 6.

Aren't they on a 2 year cycle? X1 in 2024, X2 in 2026, so X3 would be in 2028?

 

[mvprod123]

 

[adroc_thurston]

Aren't they on a 2 year cycle?

yeah.

 

[regen1]

Gerard Williams III has left Qualcomm/Nuvia.

I want to let everyone know I am now enjoying quality time with family. My journey with Qualcomm has ended. I want to say thanks to all for the laat four years together. Now the next chapter… | Gerard Williams III | 12 comments

I want to let everyone know I am now enjoying quality time with family. My journey with Qualcomm has ended. I want to say thanks to all for the laat four years together. Now the next chapter begins. And it’s starting with painting my house and doing that very long list of things I have...

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[mvprod123]

Gerard Williams III has left Qualcomm/Nuvia.

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I want to let everyone know I am now enjoying quality time with family. My journey with Qualcomm has ended. I want to say thanks to all for the laat four years together. Now the next chapter… | Gerard Williams III | 12 comments

I want to let everyone know I am now enjoying quality time with family. My journey with Qualcomm has ended. I want to say thanks to all for the laat four years together. Now the next chapter begins. And it’s starting with painting my house and doing that very long list of things I have...

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I wonder if this time tech journalists will write about the brain drain from Qualcomm, or does it seem to only apply to Apple?

 

[poke01]

I wonder if this time tech journalists will write about the brain drain from Qualcomm, or does it seem to only apply to Apple?

they won’t. Qualcomm doesn’t get clicks it’s an irrelevant company to most people. Their WoA chips are barely covered in tech reviews

 

[mvprod123]

they won’t. Qualcomm doesn’t get clicks it’s an irrelevant company to most people. Their WoA chips are barely covered in tech reviews

Now it will be interesting to see what replacement Qualcomm is preparing and how it will affect the Oryon architecture.

 

[MerryCherry]

Engineers job hop all the time in this industry. I wonder if this means he is retiring, or moving on to a new venture?

 

[poke01]

Engineers job hop all the time in this industry. I wonder if this means he is retiring, or moving on to a new venture?

Says he’s retired in his profile work history

 

[Doug S]

Now it will be interesting to see what replacement Qualcomm is preparing and how it will affect the Oryon architecture.

Just as was the case with Apple, whatever is taping out around now or the past six months (i.e. released this fall/next spring) was completely his baby. Whatever follows a year later had heavy involvement from him. Whatever follows two years from now he helped define its goals and structure.

Will be interesting to see whether with him gone some of the top people who followed him from Apple will stick around or be looking for their next challenge. Though maybe we won't know unless people are following their linkedins by name since as @poke01 pointed out, the reason they always write the "brain drain" articles about Apple when people leave is because they generate clicks in a way "leaving Qualcomm" or "leaving Google" etc. don't.

The exception to that rule is when a company is not doing too well - that's why you saw that stuff for people leaving Intel. If people left AMD they wouldn't bother with a story because it isn't gonna generate clicks. People aren't worried that AMD might go bankrupt in the way they were worried about Intel a year ago.