blckgrffn
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You started the fight.
Yes, the fight. You got that right. Gauntlets down, boys. It's time for duel.
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You started the fight.
Q6600 still has plenty of life.. you'd be a fool to upgrade it IMO.
All you need to do is put a modest overclock on it, since the stock speed (2.4ghz) is a little lower than some might feel comfortable with.
Upgrade to a comfier PC chair.. the last thing every single person considers![]()
Ib e will cost more than twice of ivy or haswell and perform slower than haswell for games. Ivy and haswell will be nearly the same price, maybe 10-20% diff hopefully, Ib e will be at least 2-3 times as much
I'd say a 2500K is the next q6600 as far as longevity goes, or even the 2600K. You're stuck in a rut because your upgrade would have to be a complete overhaul (platform+GPU) so you can't exactly pick out a single new shiny part. I'd say go with the 2600K or the 2500K depending on your workloads and either choice will last you years.
I still think the GTX275 has lot's of line in it. Nowadays most games are developed in tandem to work on the PS3, X360 and PC and due that they mostly come very well optimized. GPU is not a priority in this moment.
Will Ivy Bridge make SB prices come down a little bit? I might hold on a few months to get the 2600k or the 2500k for the best bang for buck
I registered to ask the same question but thankfully there is a thread similar to what I would create:
I'm in a very very similar situation except my system stands at this:
Q6600 @ stock (It was at 3.0 Ghz Previously)
Evga GTX 275,
nVidia 680i,
G.SKILL 4GB DDR2 (Stock speeds),
Noctua cooler
Antec 900
OCZ Vertex 3 (Currently bottlenecked as hell)
And I can't even remember the PSU anymore, but it was 600w and a respectable brand.
My computer lately has been getting instability spikes and an occasional freeze or another but it was always passable. Until one day Windows would refuse to boot with my OC. Alas, any OC will make the boot fail. I could only boot into windows/Linux/whatever if I had stock speeds.
It was a huge blow into my sweet Q6600
Now since I'm feeling that my SSD is very capped because it's running in SATAII and without ACHI I felt SOME need to upgrade to a more recent Mobo+CPU, then I got this ordeal of my machine showing me the middlefinger when I try to push it a little harder.
I don't know what to do really, I didn't want to waste a small fortune in upgrading the computer, but I don't want to upgrade to something that really won't give me the lifespan my Q6600 has given me. (I'm using it since 2008. Best CPU I ever had)
In my case, what do you guys recommend?
P.S I also wanted to switch my case for a CM690II Advanced (White Edition) because the Antec 900 is a dust magnet and the cabble management is getting atrocious. I have 3 HDD's + 1 SSD + Optical drive and the pristine machine I once had is now a spaghetti inside. With dust. And I de-dust it often.
The difference in performance between the IB 4c/8thread and the SB 4c/8thread part is a minimal increase in IPC. The only two factors between deciding which part to buy, ivy or sandy, should be price and availability purely because that jump in performance is negligible. So it all comes down to when you plan on building the rig. Ivy parts will likely become readily available in a month or two (?) but they almost certainly will not decrease the price on SB chips because Intel likes price cuts on dated hardware as much as they like herpes. If there's a price decrease it will likely be very small and you'll end up kicking yourself for not buying earlier. If you want the best deal on an SB chip you can buy them secondhand from the forsale/fortrade forums.
Games are slowly utilizing dx11 and that geforce card is getting dated. I guess it all depends on how much gaming you do and which games you play. The choice of CPU is very easy: 2500K or 2600K or IB equivalents. The choice of GPU (with longevity in mind) is far more difficult in the current climate, so it may actually benefit you to hold onto that GPU for just a tad longer and see how it plays out.
OP, have you thought about OCing that Q6600?![]()
Yes, i started the fight for pointing out that your post has 0 to do with the thread, or what any poster has talked about in it.You started the fight.
Im sure everyone is anxiously awaiting for me to start crying when i cant afford a processor that i never wanted......You are one hell of an idiot, let us see you cry when you are unable to buy your Ib e and when you are penny sucked for lower performance.
I thought you wanted Ib e instead of Ib and hence tried to help you, but you don't deserve it, lol
Wont IVB be a better overclocker though? which is ont of the main reasons for waiting. My computer gets pretty hot during the summer, to the point where i cant leave it on without it heating my room as well, so jumping for 65nm from 22nm will help out a lot im assuming.
You are one hell of an idiot, let us see you cry when you are unable to buy your Ib e and when you are penny sucked for lower performance.
I thought you wanted Ib e instead of Ib and hence tried to help you, but you don't deserve it, lol
Early reports suggest a no answer to both statements. The OC's we've seen thus far from ivy have been in line with what we've seen from SB and we know for certain the chips produce quite a bit of heat when OC'd, more than SB, in part likely due to its decrease in die size allowing less area to dissipate heat. They are lower TDP and just because they run hotter doesn't mean they'll produce more heat in a room than SB will (remember they are smaller) so that's what I said the difference between SB and IB chips are, at least for the moment, quite negligible outside of the mobile space, attention to TDP and graphical performance.
You can't go wrong with IB nor SB. The biggest factor in waiting for IB would be PCIE 3.0 and that would be for longevity purposes -- we'll all need it sooner or later ;P
That settles it, I'm waiting for IB, even without OC my Q6600 will keep me strong until then.
I would wait for IVB for 2 reasons:
1 - The price will be roughly the same between comparable SB-IB models.
2 - PCIE 3.0 will likely come in handy if you plan on using the rig for 5 years.
Also, I would suggest buying the 3770K because of its 8 threads as opposed to the 4-core-4-thread 2500K and whatever the IB equivalent is. Granted, either one of those will be good enough but the extra 4 threads will certainly help as we push into DX11 gaming and multi-threaded software.
Just be wary of buying it at an inflated price. Intel has reported yield issues but I'm not sure if they're back up to par. Availability might be an issue but considering you're on a relatively rock solid platform you can afford to wait a month.
Waiting for IVB also means more time for the waters to settle within the GPU segment. Right now it's very muddy and hard to make sense of much with Kepler's release eminent.
have u tried turning off legacy usb? Same thing happened to me. My OC wouldnt stay, even at 2.5ghz. At first i said i just didnt care, and dealt with it knowing id eventually upgrade. Going from 2.4 to even 3.0 makes a big difference. Everything seemed a bit smoother - not even considering games.
any idea on the price of the 3770k? I really dont want to spend more than 200-250 if i can help it.
Being "stuck" in the 3570k i5 doesn't seem that bad actually![]()