Pyramid of capitalist system

LunarRay

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When was that pictorial declassified? Are we permitted to view this? Soon the middle class will rise up and trounce the noble class and with out the noble class all that is left is the cake.... and the farmer.
 

compuwiz1

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Wow, a familiar face. Jean! BTW, you are still beautiful as always! ;)
 

lozina

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Hah, I like that!

I wish I can get a oil painting of that.

I say all the laborers and farmers should carry the pyramid over to the nearest cliff and throw it over!
 

jjones

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How is that any different, aside from possibly the clergy, than any other tiered society around the world? Oh, and it's missing the tier of the middle and upper middle class. It makes me laugh when people slam capitalism yet disregard every other society that gives perks, benefits and wealth to those of the party, military, ministry and government living off the backs of the worker. Capitalism addresses the basic nature of man better than any other system and at least it's not a farce of ideals.
 

shiner

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You all did notice that the drawing was published by The Industrial Worker right? Of course you did....but why let the fact that it was published by a Communist publication bother you.
 

Moonbeam

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Capitalism addresses the basic nature of man better than any other system and at least it's not a farce of ideals.
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This recording was bought and paid for and implanted in the minds of millions at great cost. Remember it please. Recite this from rote whenever somthing rouses a thought. We are living in the best of all worlds, there's no need to change. There in no need for inquiry here, move along please.
 

Moonbeam

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Originally posted by: shinerburke
You all did notice that the drawing was published by The Industrial Worker right? Of course you did....but why let the fact that it was published by a Communist publication bother you.
Yes, indeed, why should that bother anybody. Another bought and paid for rut. Communism is bad. This is communism, it's bad. No need to think here, move along. Got this wrapped with my pinko bow and put on my mentally dead shelf. Not what else is new. Lets see, anything good on TV?

 

jjones

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Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Capitalism addresses the basic nature of man better than any other system and at least it's not a farce of ideals.
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This recording was bought and paid for and implanted in the minds of millions at great cost. Remember it please. Recite this from rote whenever somthing rouses a thought. We are living in the best of all worlds, there's no need to change. There in no need for inquiry here, move along please.
And you have a better idea?

 

Moonbeam

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Better implies a capacity for judgment. Judgment requires impartiality. Impartiality is the condition of freedom from preconceptions. Preconceptions are determinations that everything has already been judged. Because one asks a question like you got something better, does not equate to a capacity for understand an answer.
 

jjones

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Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Better implies a capacity for judgment. Judgment requires impartiality. Impartiality is the condition of freedom from preconceptions. Preconceptions are determinations that everything has already been judged. Because one asks a question like you got something better, does not equate to a capacity for understand an answer.
Foolish me, I thought perhaps you had something other than ridicule and doublespeak up your sleeve. What is it that you hate about yourself so much that gives you the inclination to be so condescending?

 

jjones

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Originally posted by: Moonbeam
And even if I don't doesn't mean one doesn't exist.
I'll agree with that. I just haven't seen anything better, and I have traveled quite a bit and experienced other societies. Perhaps one day a better idea will come to the fore. I've an open mind but until then I'll stick with capitalism.

 

Corn

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Foolish me, I thought perhaps you had something other than ridicule and doublespeak up your sleeve. What is it that you hate about yourself so much that gives you the inclination to be so condescending?

I think I love you.
 

Czar

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Originally posted by: shinerburke
You all did notice that the drawing was published by The Industrial Worker right? Of course you did....but why let the fact that it was published by a Communist publication bother you.
how long ago? I saw this first in a history book about 10 years ago
 

shiner

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Originally posted by: Czar
Originally posted by: shinerburke
You all did notice that the drawing was published by The Industrial Worker right? Of course you did....but why let the fact that it was published by a Communist publication bother you.
how long ago? I saw this first in a history book about 10 years ago
Well let's see....at the bottom of the pic it has a copyright date of 1911. In the upper left corner it says it was published by The Industrial Worker and that you can get subscriptions for $1 per year. Seems to me it's pretty old......

 

Czar

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Originally posted by: shinerburke
Originally posted by: Czar
Originally posted by: shinerburke
You all did notice that the drawing was published by The Industrial Worker right? Of course you did....but why let the fact that it was published by a Communist publication bother you.
how long ago? I saw this first in a history book about 10 years ago
Well let's see....at the bottom of the pic it has a copyright date of 1911. In the upper left corner it says it was published by The Industrial Worker and that you can get subscriptions for $1 per year. Seems to me it's pretty old......
ah, ok :)
 

Moonbeam

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Originally posted by: jjones
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Better implies a capacity for judgment. Judgment requires impartiality. Impartiality is the condition of freedom from preconceptions. Preconceptions are determinations that everything has already been judged. Because one asks a question like you got something better, does not equate to a capacity for understand an answer.
Foolish me, I thought perhaps you had something other than ridicule and doublespeak up your sleeve. What is it that you hate about yourself so much that gives you the inclination to be so condescending?
What is it that you hate about yourself that when confronted with elementary psychological facts you take them as personally insulting and react with defensiveness. The truth is, how you feel about it is a reflection of your inner state. This is an other dimension of reality you can now react to. Be careful, though, your self hate will want to protect your ego from the truth. For the sake of your deeper self I'm not very delicate.

Originally posted by: jjones
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
And even if I don't doesn't mean one doesn't exist.
I'll agree with that. I just haven't seen anything better, and I have traveled quite a bit and experienced other societies. Perhaps one day a better idea will come to the fore. I've an open mind but until then I'll stick with capitalism.
That you assume to know the conditions and limitations of your blindness is visible in the manner of your refutation. You think that travel and exposure to other systems imparts to you the wisdom to judge. The area of blindness to which I alluded have nothing to do with that. Everything you know about humanity is from man as he exists. What you fail to take into account, what you can't even suspect, is that man as you know him is asleep living in a wrong world. Everything ordinary people do is of the mechanically of sleep. In an invisible world conscious man lives in the awareness of NOW. What are the rules that govern that. To know now, know now. Oh yeah, your ego has to die.

In the depths of the sea are treasures beyond belief, but if you seek safety it's on the shore. A saying
 

jjones

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Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Originally posted by: jjones
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Better implies a capacity for judgment. Judgment requires impartiality. Impartiality is the condition of freedom from preconceptions. Preconceptions are determinations that everything has already been judged. Because one asks a question like you got something better, does not equate to a capacity for understand an answer.
Foolish me, I thought perhaps you had something other than ridicule and doublespeak up your sleeve. What is it that you hate about yourself so much that gives you the inclination to be so condescending?
What is it that you hate about yourself that when confronted with elementary psychological facts you take them as personally insulting and react with defensiveness. The truth is, how you feel about it is a reflection of your inner state. This is an other dimension of reality you can now react to. Be careful, though, your self hate will want to protect your ego from the truth. For the sake of your deeper self I'm not very delicate.

Originally posted by: jjones
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
And even if I don't doesn't mean one doesn't exist.
I'll agree with that. I just haven't seen anything better, and I have traveled quite a bit and experienced other societies. Perhaps one day a better idea will come to the fore. I've an open mind but until then I'll stick with capitalism.
That you assume to know the conditions and limitations of your blindness is visible in the manner of your refutation. You think that travel and exposure to other systems imparts to you the wisdom to judge. The area of blindness to which I alluded have nothing to do with that. Everything you know about humanity is from man as he exists. What you fail to take into account, what you can't even suspect, is that man as you know him is asleep living in a wrong world. Everything ordinary people do is of the mechanically of sleep. In an invisible world conscious man lives in the awareness of NOW. What are the rules that govern that. To know now, know now. Oh yeah, your ego has to die.

In the depths of the sea are treasures beyond belief, but if you seek safety it's on the shore. A saying
Avoidance and deflection is typical of you Moonie. As I thought, no ideas bouncing around in that silly head that haven't come from a can of pop psychology.

 

Corn

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Avoidance and deflection is typical of you Moonie. As I thought, no ideas bouncing around in that silly head that haven't come from a can of pop psychology.

Elementary!
 

Moonbeam

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jjones: Avoidance and deflection is typical of you Moonie. As I thought, no ideas bouncing around in that silly head that haven't come from a can of pop psychology.
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Well of course you can make all kinds of assumptions, jj, but from whence my ideas come I, in fact, know the truth. I would appreciate you showing me a couple or even a 'can' from which I speak. I would love to learn about anybody saying the same as me. Would you show me one please. I myself know nothing about this 'pop psychology' to which you refer that says the same thing as me and I await a reference or two with deep anticipation, you can be sure. And since you are so sure of yourself I know it will be an easy task.
 

Moonbeam

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Oh goodie, I see Corn has qualified himself to help out too. Wonder of wonders 'pop psychology is me'. This is an exciting development. Please pile on the links.
 

Corn

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Well of course you can make all kinds of assumptions, jj, but from whence my ideas come I, in fact, know the truth. I would appreciate you showing me a couple or even a 'can' from which I speak. I would love to learn about anybody saying the same as me. Would you show me one please. I myself know nothing about this 'pop psychology' to which you refer that says the same thing as me and I await a reference or two with deep anticipation, you can be sure. And since you are so sure of yourself I know it will be an easy task.

Moonie is smart, he makes things go. We had better hide him from the Pakleds.