Purebreed?

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Ns1

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Let's put it this way, first I looked at the picture and said to myself "That Dachshund looks like it has a little something else mixed in it," then I read your post. I can see the Basset influence in the eyes, ears and coloring, but everything else looks much more Dachshund, > 50% even.

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DrPizza

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If that's a purebred basset, it's from incredibly poor genetics.

I'd approach the seller, show the dog, ask for a refund of 80% of the money since it's not a purebred.

Were you on premises when you purchased it? Were there other dogs present? It might be worth your time to park in the neighborhood and observe for a while what other dogs they own. If they have a dachshund or other breed in addition to the basset hounds, I'd say you've got a good small claims case.
 

Sixguns

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Yes I paid and I got akc papers. That is why I contacted the akc too. Still waiting to hear back from the breeders.
 

Fayd

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Big ugly mutt



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lucky?
 

tcsenter

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Looks like some Dachshund in her but then again, there is a difference between purebred and a breed standard. There are all sorts of purebred dogs that don't comply with or deviate from the breed standard for showing.
 

thedarkwolf

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Yes I paid and I got akc papers. That is why I contacted the akc too. Still waiting to hear back from the breeders.

AKC papers don't really mean a whole lot as you have figured out. When you go to a back yard breeder or puppy mill you take your chances. The dog very well may technically be a pure breed but but bad quality parents = bad quality puppy. You have to go to a good breeder which cost a hell of a lot money and you have to jump though a lot hoops so most people just pick up a newspaper or surf craigslist.
 

Sixguns

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Just got a response from the breeder. She was very defensive and said if I didnt believe her, I could pay her 100.00 to do a DNA test on just the sire. Now why would I pay her to do a test for me? I better get my money back or I will go to the AKC with this.

EDIT:
Second email from breeder trying to swear that she is a basset, just a small framed basset.
 

BudAshes

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EDIT:
Second email from breeder trying to swear that she is a basset, just a small framed basset.

hahah small frame basset? Basset hounds have droopy faces and ears. That's a dachshund with basset coloring. It's always possible to get weird looking dogs even with pure bread breeding but that's not even close.
 

Ichinisan

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Or you could take the dog to a professional instead of asking the ATOT Doctors/Lawyers.

Dumbest possible response. If someone here probably knows more about dogs than me (an absolute certainty), I would ask here first.
 

Sixguns

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She is still saying to do a DNA test against the mother only. I am going to wait on the AKC and go forward with them on this.
 

BudAshes

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She is still saying to do a DNA test against the mother only. I am going to wait on the AKC and go forward with them on this.

Has she seen the dog? Every basset hound I've ever seen looks something like this
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AreaCode707

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If you were out looking for a basset hound, I don't know why you would have even taken that puppy home.

Basset hound puppies:
67757758_1-Pictures-of-Basset-Hound-Puppies.jpg

Your dog:
Compare to a dachshund:
dachshund%20standard%20image1.jpg

Adult basset hound:
basset_hound.jpg


Did you not know what the dog breed you were buying looked like?

Did you get papers and history on both sides of the dog's lineage? Did you have all the health checks done and get certifications? Did you have a vet sign off on the puppy before you took it home, including the breed? Those are all baseline expectations when buying a purebred. That's where you get the return on your expensive investment.

Honestly, I'd leave this as a life lesson learned about research when you're buying a pet and live happily ever after with your dog. Caveat emptor.

If you want to go after the breeder for dishonesty get your own DNA test done on the dog and call the AKC. That's reasonable.

You're not going to get your money back. Anyone selling mixed breeds as purebreds knows what they're doing, doesn't give a crap and is probably crazier than you want to deal with in your life.
 
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BudAshes

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If you were out looking for a basset hound, I don't know why you would have even taken that puppy home.

Basset hound puppies:
67757758_1-Pictures-of-Basset-Hound-Puppies.jpg

Your dog:

Adult basset hound:
basset_hound.jpg


Did you not know what the dog breed you were buying looked like?

Did you get papers and history on both sides of the dog's lineage? Did you have all the health checks done and get certifications? Did you have a vet sign off on the puppy before you took it home, including the breed? Those are all baseline expectations when buying a purebred. That's where you get the return on your expensive investment.

Honestly, I'd leave this as a life lesson learned about research when you're buying a pet and live happily ever after with your dog. Caveat emptor.

If you want to go after the breeder for dishonesty get your own DNA test done on the dog and call the AKC if you want. That's reasonable.

You're not going to get your money back. Anyone selling mixed breeds as purebreds knows what they're doing, doesn't give a crap and is probably crazier than you want to deal with in your life.

Try and leave negative online reviews for them too. Make sure anyone that does any research doesn't get screwed as well.
 

Sixguns

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Did you not know what the dog breed you were buying looked like?

Did you get papers and history on both sides of the dog's lineage? Did you have all the health checks done and get certifications? Did you have a vet sign off on the puppy before you took it home, including the breed? Those are all baseline expectations when buying a purebred. That's where you get the return on your expensive investment.

Honestly, I'd leave this as a life lesson learned about research when you're buying a pet and live happily ever after with your dog. Caveat emptor.

If you want to go after the breeder for dishonesty get your own DNA test done on the dog and call the AKC. That's reasonable.

You're not going to get your money back. Anyone selling mixed breeds as purebreds knows what they're doing, doesn't give a crap and is probably crazier than you want to deal with in your life.

All done but papers can easy to lie on which is what I think has happened. Both puppies look very close to each other. I really think that it is a mix of the two.
 

GoodRevrnd

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She is still saying to do a DNA test against the mother only. I am going to wait on the AKC and go forward with them on this.

This makes me think she is a shitty breeder and some neighborhood or park dachshund got to her bitch, and possibly she didn't even figure that out until the puppies got old enough that she recognized what happened even with her terribleness. Won't let you test the father? Seems like she admitted guilt right there.

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AreaCode707

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All done but papers can easy to lie on which is what I think has happened. Both puppies look very close to each other. I really think that it is a mix of the two.

Do you have any puppy pics of your dog? I honestly can't figure out how this:
Dachshund-Dog-Puppies-6.jpg

looks like this:
Basset-Hound-Puppies-Wallpaper-1.jpg
 

AreaCode707

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Just got a response from the breeder. She was very defensive and said if I didnt believe her, I could pay her 100.00 to do a DNA test on just the sire. Now why would I pay her to do a test for me? I better get my money back or I will go to the AKC with this.

EDIT:
Second email from breeder trying to swear that she is a basset, just a small framed basset.

She is still saying to do a DNA test against the mother only. I am going to wait on the AKC and go forward with them on this.


The sire is the dad. Sounds like she's offered to test both parents.

Honestly I wouldn't trust her to test the parents because that doesn't prove that they ARE the parents, only that she has two purebreds.
 

Sixguns

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The sire is the dad. Sounds like she's offered to test both parents.

Honestly I wouldn't trust her to test the parents because that doesn't prove that they ARE the parents, only that she has two purebreds.

She changed it between her two emails. First it was the one and than the other. Thats why I wont pay her to do it for me. She can just grab to pures and test them and call me crazy.
 

Apex

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Ive already looked into this but there are a lot of mixed reviews. I may try it out though.

As for pics of her when we first got, I cant find any right now. Most of them were on my wife's phone.

I've used it twice. Very easy to use and got clear results.

There are 4 main drawbacks of these kinds of tests:

1. User error (unable to follow directions): Not waiting 2 hours after dog eats, drinks before doing swab. Touching end of swab with your hand. Etc.

2. Testing a dog that is by nature a mixed-breed to begin with: ie. Pit bulls

3. Using a test that doesn't have the required breed in its database: some cheek swab tests have fewer breeds in the database than others.

4. Lack of user understanding on how recessive or minor contributor traits may manifest (ie. Test says my dog is 3/4 poodle and 1/4 Chihuahua, but my dog still looks like a rat. How come?)

If you don't think you call under any of those 4 problem areas, you should be fine.
 

Agent11

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Take her on Judge Judy ftw.

Seriously though, I would at least casually threaten legal action if she refuses to be reasonable.
 

BudAshes

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Nothing to really do with your problem, but from what I've seen in general if you are buying a pure bread puppy for under a 1000 bucks you are not dealing with a very professional operation. Even a 1000 is pretty low.