Purchase XBOX 360 vs PS3

[mugs]

Why are you guys all arguing over the 360 failure rate when it looks like the OP is going with the PS3 anyway? The PS3 is the better choice for him regardless of failure rates.

 

[IndyColtsFan]

Originally posted by: Pheran

Originally posted by: RyanPaulShaffer

Originally posted by: Pheran

Originally posted by: RyanPaulShaffer
OP, just keep in mind that if you buy an XBOX 360, it will break...it's not a matter of IF, it's a matter of WHEN.

Originally posted by: RyanPaulShaffer
I used to be a staunch defender of the 360, claiming that the tales of woe were overblown, until ironically, mine just recently died on me. Zephyr HDMI Pro...not a launch model. I really have no urgent incentive to get it fixed, since what's the rush? I will just get a model back that will break soon anyway. Why would I want to buy games for a system I now know will fail on me, and fail repeatedly?

This is nonsense - there is no evidence that the current Jasper revision has a failure rate any worse than other consoles. Your "not a launch model" Zephyr is just as bad as a Xenon launch model, there was no improvement to Zephyr other than adding HDMI. The RROD/heat fixes started with the Falcon revision and were improved again in Jasper.

Yes, the original Xbox 360 revisions (Xenon/Zephyr) suck. Yes, I feel bad for those on the RROD treadmill with them. But telling people that new 360s are guaranteed to break is just trolling.

So because you don't agree with something and don't want to face the facts, it's "trolling".

:laugh:

BTW:

Wiki Link

"In July 2007, this version of the Xbox 360 began appearing with the Zephyr motherboard (the motherboard used in the Elite) which features HDMI 1.2 output and an improved GPU heatsink."

No improvement to Zephyr, eh? There were even recent discussions in this forum (I know at least in my "My 360 RROD'ed" thread) that the main problem with the 360, the clamp issue or something like that, still remains even in the Jasper revision.

Who's "trolling" again?

Being mistaken is not trolling. OK, so there was some heatsink improvement in Zephyr - I was wrong about the "no improvement" part. What I was trying to point out was that there was no die shrink in Zephyr, thus no reduced heat output as there is in Falcon and Jasper.

I stand by my original point that telling people new 360s are guaranteed to break is just nonsense.

I'm with Ryan. I have no confidence in the Xbox at this point. I have two of them; I purchased the second only because I wanted a cheap Netflix and light gaming system downstairs. Both are Falcons, and my 2 year-old Falcon Elite died a couple of weeks ago with -- you guessed it -- a RROD. Sure, MS will fix it, but it is a PITA and an inconvenience. This is the third unit that has died on me, by the way.

I am leaning towards buying a PS3 early next year and just buying all new games for the PS3 rather than the Xbox. That way, I can gradually phase out use of the Xbox as a primary gaming system.

 

[RyanPaulShaffer]

Originally posted by: mugs
Why are you guys all arguing over the 360 failure rate when it looks like the OP is going with the PS3 anyway? The PS3 is the better choice for him regardless of failure rates.

I can't read all of the posts in the thread.

The failure rate of the 360 is a very serious consideration when you're looking at purchasing a 360 VS a PS3.

 

[IndyColtsFan]

Originally posted by: mugs
Why are you guys all arguing over the 360 failure rate when it looks like the OP is going with the PS3 anyway? The PS3 is the better choice for him regardless of failure rates.

I agree and had the PS3 had the games and been more affordable at the time I bought my Xbox, I would've bought the PS3 instead.

 

[viivo]

Buy both from Wal-Mart, decide on the one you like best then return them for a refund and order the one you liked online for a cheaper price.

 

[IndyColtsFan]

Originally posted by: RyanPaulShaffer

Originally posted by: mugs
Why are you guys all arguing over the 360 failure rate when it looks like the OP is going with the PS3 anyway? The PS3 is the better choice for him regardless of failure rates.

I can't read all of the posts in the thread.

The failure rate of the 360 is a very serious consideration when you're looking at purchasing a 360 VS a PS3.

Yeah, and until I see hard data to the contrary, my assumption will be the same as yours -- a new Xbox is virtually guaranteed to break. I've heard the "this will fix the RROD" line from MS before on both the Zephyr and Falcon, and we all saw how well that worked out.

 

[Pheran]

Originally posted by: viivo
Buy both from Wal-Mart, decide on the one you like best then return them for a refund and order the one you liked online for a cheaper price.

I really, really hope this is an attempt at humor.

 

[RyanPaulShaffer]

Originally posted by: Pheran

Originally posted by: viivo
Buy both from Wal-Mart, decide on the one you like best then return them for a refund and order the one you liked online for a cheaper price.

I really, really hope this is an attempt at humor.

I think he was being serious...people actually pull these kinds of stunts, making things tougher and more expensive for those of us who are honest.

 

[mugs]

I think the only reason I'd get a 360 in your situation is if you have a strong preference for the controller like I do. It doesn't sound like that's the case.

 

[Pheran]

Originally posted by: RyanPaulShaffer

Originally posted by: Pheran

Originally posted by: viivo
Buy both from Wal-Mart, decide on the one you like best then return them for a refund and order the one you liked online for a cheaper price.

I really, really hope this is an attempt at humor.

I think he was being serious...people actually pull these kinds of stunts, making things tougher and more expensive for those of us who are honest.

That's what I'm afraid of, but I was trying to give him the benefit of the doubt rather than assuming he was a total scumbag.

EDIT: :music:Let's do the time warp again!:music:

 

[Adrenaline]

I had a RRoD show up on mine after a storm hit and surged the hell out of my house. I powered it off and it came back non and has worked fine ever since. Just lucky.

 

[viivo]

Maybe I should have included a smiley.

Of course I wasn't serious, but I have seen a few posts here in the past that were serious in suggesting something like that.

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: viivo
Maybe I should have included a smiley.

Of course I wasn't serious, but I have seen a few posts here in the past that were serious in suggesting something like that.

That's why people took it seriously

Though I do think you tried to make it obvious when you suggested returning both and re-buying online.

 

[RyanPaulShaffer]

Originally posted by: viivo
Maybe I should have included a smiley.

Of course I wasn't serious, but I have seen a few posts here in the past that were serious in suggesting something like that.

Needs more smileys!

 

[oogabooga]

I recently struggled with this. I went with the PS3. Blu-Ray and media center capabilities were the most important to me. I wanted to play the following games LittleBigPlanet, Final Fantasy XIII, GT 5. I also liked that Ps1 classics were in the PSN store. I hope they release more PS1 games and Ps2 games there (I Didn't have a PS2 so I don't mind buying them there).

Basically Halo and Xbox Live weren't important to me and the Blu Ray playback was. Netflix streaming (while nice) isn't an issue cause amazingly - my TV has netflix streaming built into it.

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: oogabooga
my TV has netflix streaming built into it.

That's awesome, what TV? My Samsung has some Internet crap built-in, but it might as well not be there. It has news, but you're stuck with Samsung's feeds rather than RSS. It's a uPnP media player, but I couldn't get it to work with TVersity and I'm not going to run Samsung's software in addition to TVersity. So I guess that's one Ethernet cable I can remove from the tangled mess in my TV stand.

 

[Dari]

Finally, some people are starting to see the XBOX 360 for what it is: flawed hardware that should never have been tolerated in the first place. Hopefully, the American public has learned a valuable lesson from this hardware fiasco, namely, don't buy shitty hardware.

 

[RyanPaulShaffer]

Originally posted by: Dari
Finally, some people are starting to see the XBOX 360 for what it is: flawed hardware that should never have been tolerated in the first place. Hopefully, the American public has learned a valuable lesson from this hardware fiasco, namely, don't buy shitty hardware.

Problem is, I vastly prefer almost every aspect of the XBOX 360 over the PS3, except for the fact that the 360 is a defective, unreliable POS. There is also the fact that I invested a good deal of money in the XBOX 360 platform...

 

[IndyColtsFan]

Originally posted by: Dari
Finally, some people are starting to see the XBOX 360 for what it is: flawed hardware that should never have been tolerated in the first place. Hopefully, the American public has learned a valuable lesson from this hardware fiasco, namely, don't buy shitty hardware.

Wow, I am surprised it took you so long to interject yourself into this thread.

I've never said the hardware was not flawed nor did I say Microsoft was not to blame for this ridiculousness. The only thing I've ever said is that when you've invested a lot of money in games and accessories, it is pretty painful to suddenly switch to a new platform.

I do think, however, that I will probably buy a PS3 eventually and just buy all new games for that particular platform going forward. That way, the Xboxes will be phased out in my house and only be used for Netflix and maybe the occasional platform exclusive.

 

[Dari]

Originally posted by: blanghorst

Originally posted by: Dari
Finally, some people are starting to see the XBOX 360 for what it is: flawed hardware that should never have been tolerated in the first place. Hopefully, the American public has learned a valuable lesson from this hardware fiasco, namely, don't buy shitty hardware.

Wow, I am surprised it took you so long to interject yourself into this thread.

I've never said the hardware was not flawed nor did I say Microsoft was not to blame for this ridiculousness. The only thing I've ever said is that when you've invested a lot of money in games and accessories, it is pretty painful to suddenly switch to a new platform.

I do think, however, that I will probably buy a PS3 eventually and just buy all new games for that particular platform going forward. That way, the Xboxes will be phased out in my house and only be used for Netflix and maybe the occasional platform exclusive.

I guess you can thank your lucky stars that all your games and accessories are physical and you can sell them and recoup some of your investment. However, it amazes me to this day to see people still buying this hardware. Maybe it's me but I will never understand why people buy cheap stuff that they plan on keeping or investing in.

EDIT: It's like marrying a bimbo. Why?

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: Dari
EDIT: It's like marrying a bimbo. Why?

Because it's a lot of fun, and when it becomes worthless they send you another for free.

 

[Dari]

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: Dari
EDIT: It's like marrying a bimbo. Why?

Because it's a lot of fun, and when it becomes worthless they send you another for free.

You date them, not marry them.

 

[IndyColtsFan]

Originally posted by: Dari

Originally posted by: blanghorst

Originally posted by: Dari
Finally, some people are starting to see the XBOX 360 for what it is: flawed hardware that should never have been tolerated in the first place. Hopefully, the American public has learned a valuable lesson from this hardware fiasco, namely, don't buy shitty hardware.

Wow, I am surprised it took you so long to interject yourself into this thread.

I've never said the hardware was not flawed nor did I say Microsoft was not to blame for this ridiculousness. The only thing I've ever said is that when you've invested a lot of money in games and accessories, it is pretty painful to suddenly switch to a new platform.

I do think, however, that I will probably buy a PS3 eventually and just buy all new games for that particular platform going forward. That way, the Xboxes will be phased out in my house and only be used for Netflix and maybe the occasional platform exclusive.

I guess you can thank your lucky stars that all your games and accessories are physical and you can sell them and recoup some of your investment. However, it amazes me to this day to see people still buying this hardware. Maybe it's me but I will never understand why people buy cheap stuff that they plan on keeping or investing in.

EDIT: It's like marrying a bimbo. Why?

The Xbox was a better gaming system than the PS3, plain and simple. I am not sure that is true now, but in the past, it was very true. People, especially gamers, tend to buy what they think is best for their particular need. It isn't as if we bought Xbox 360s to "invest" in -- if you buy a system and buy 3 or 4 new games at $60 a whack, what are you going to do:

a. Have the system fixed under warranty and keep playing the stuff you have
b. Say screw it, not get it repaired, and then go buy a PS3 and PS3 versions of those games for $60 per?

Also, in my case, I despise Sony and am very hesitant to give them any of my money. Generally, I think Sony makes great gaming hardware (the PSP Go! is the exception). At this stage though, my Xboxes are under warranty until the end of 2010 and end of 2012. After that, you can bet I won't pay to have them fixed. That is why I am leaning towards buying a PS3 Slim (my dislike of Sony not withstanding) and just making sure that any new game purchase is a PS3 version. That way, by the time my Xboxes are out of warranty, I will probably be playing most of my games on the PS3.

Microsoft bungled their handling of the RROD issue, I don't think anyone denies that. And I can also say that I won't be buying their next console (Xbox 720?) unless:

1) They give HUGE discounts to people upgrading from 360s for all their troubles
2) It is head and shoulders above everything else

Even if the above were true (and you can bet #1 won't happen), I would still be very hesitant.

 

[Dari]

Originally posted by: blanghorst

Originally posted by: Dari

Originally posted by: blanghorst

Originally posted by: Dari
Finally, some people are starting to see the XBOX 360 for what it is: flawed hardware that should never have been tolerated in the first place. Hopefully, the American public has learned a valuable lesson from this hardware fiasco, namely, don't buy shitty hardware.

Wow, I am surprised it took you so long to interject yourself into this thread.

I've never said the hardware was not flawed nor did I say Microsoft was not to blame for this ridiculousness. The only thing I've ever said is that when you've invested a lot of money in games and accessories, it is pretty painful to suddenly switch to a new platform.

I do think, however, that I will probably buy a PS3 eventually and just buy all new games for that particular platform going forward. That way, the Xboxes will be phased out in my house and only be used for Netflix and maybe the occasional platform exclusive.

I guess you can thank your lucky stars that all your games and accessories are physical and you can sell them and recoup some of your investment. However, it amazes me to this day to see people still buying this hardware. Maybe it's me but I will never understand why people buy cheap stuff that they plan on keeping or investing in.

EDIT: It's like marrying a bimbo. Why?

The Xbox was a better gaming system than the PS3, plain and simple. I am not sure that is true now, but in the past, it was very true. People, especially gamers, tend to buy what they think is best for their particular need. It isn't as if we bought Xbox 360s to "invest" in -- if you buy a system and buy 3 or 4 new games at $60 a whack, what are you going to do:

a. Have the system fixed under warranty and keep playing the stuff you have
b. Say screw it, not get it repaired, and then go buy a PS3 and PS3 versions of those games for $60 per?

Also, in my case, I despise Sony and am very hesitant to give them any of my money. Generally, I think Sony makes great gaming hardware (the PSP Go! is the exception). At this stage though, my Xboxes are under warranty until the end of 2010 and end of 2012. After that, you can bet I won't pay to have them fixed. That is why I am leaning towards buying a PS3 Slim (my dislike of Sony not withstanding) and just making sure that any new game purchase is a PS3 version. That way, by the time my Xboxes are out of warranty, I will probably be playing most of my games on the PS3.

Microsoft bungled their handling of the RROD issue, I don't think anyone denies that. And I can also say that I won't be buying their next console (Xbox 720?) unless:

1) They give HUGE discounts to people upgrading from 360s for all their troubles
2) It is head and shoulders above everything else

Even if the above were true (and you can bet #1 won't happen), I would still be very hesitant.

Fair enough.

 

[gar655]

I get HD movies on demand through DirecTv. So, while I like the new PS3 slim AND it's cheaper than an xBox with wifi, it still doesn't have the games.

Gears > Killzone, FM2/3 > GT4/5 (how the hell can you have a serious racing game with no damage modeling?), most games still look better on the xBox. The xBox controller is better.

Sure M$ is screwing you left and right with the 360. No wifi, smaller non (easily)replaceable HDDs, expensive proprietary cables, no high def (high capacity) disks. But if game playing is your main concern then the xBox is worth the extra $200.

Seriously, if I didn't have a game system now I would buy the PS3 easily over the 360. The 360 is way overpriced.

Gene