Pumping gas yourself in Oregon

[yukichigai]

Originally posted by: MisterPresident
I actually remember reading that these laws were passed not to create more jobs or prevent people from blowing themselves up, but on behalf of physically disabled people. If I am physically able to pump my own gas in CA, for example, I can choose to pay for self-service. If I'm elderly, disabled, etc, then I HAVE to buy full service. People got mad. To get around this problem, I believe this law was passed.

The logical response to that problem would be to pass a law exempting those with disabled plates/placards from the Full-Service charge. Of course there's no guarantee that's not why they passed the law anyway.

Here's a question: how the f%$# do automated pumps work in Oregon, particularly at late hours of the night/early hours of the morning? A lot of the routes through rural parts of the country have gas stations that are automated and work 24/7, but are only manned maybe 18 hours out of the day. I'm assuming in Oregon they're always manned? That's gotta drive up costs.


P.S. DT4K: There could be an exemption on motorcycles, or the gas attendants could be aware that a lot of motorcyclists are very touchy when it comes to their bikes. It could even be a safety/insurance issue.

P.P.S. In an interesting but unrelated sort of way, the maximum flow-rate of a gas pump is 10 gallons per minute, mandated on the Federal level. Since I found that out I stopped wondering if it could go any faster.

 

[Howard]

Originally posted by: OFFascist
I've been told the law was to create jobs because NJ ranks high in the unemployment arena.

Just another tax...

 

[isasir]

Originally posted by: loki8481
from what I've seen, there's no significant difference in prices between states that don't allow self-service and those that do.

only gas stations where I've noticed a difference are full-service gas stations in self-service states; those attendants also seem to expect a tip, which is *definitely* not the case in NJ.

Hmm that's good to know. Living in NY, I like the price difference when I refuel in NJ, but the difference is minimal if I tip the attendant.

 

[DT4K]

Originally posted by: yukichigai

Originally posted by: MisterPresident
I actually remember reading that these laws were passed not to create more jobs or prevent people from blowing themselves up, but on behalf of physically disabled people. If I am physically able to pump my own gas in CA, for example, I can choose to pay for self-service. If I'm elderly, disabled, etc, then I HAVE to buy full service. People got mad. To get around this problem, I believe this law was passed.

The logical response to that problem would be to pass a law exempting those with disabled plates/placards from the Full-Service charge. Of course there's no guarantee that's not why they passed the law anyway.

Here's a question: how the f%$# do automated pumps work in Oregon, particularly at late hours of the night/early hours of the morning? A lot of the routes through rural parts of the country have gas stations that are automated and work 24/7, but are only manned maybe 18 hours out of the day. I'm assuming in Oregon they're always manned? That's gotta drive up costs.


P.S. DT4K: There could be an exemption on motorcycles, or the gas attendants could be aware that a lot of motorcyclists are very touchy when it comes to their bikes. It could even be a safety/insurance issue.

P.P.S. In an interesting but unrelated sort of way, the maximum flow-rate of a gas pump is 10 gallons per minute, mandated on the Federal level. Since I found that out I stopped wondering if it could go any faster.

I understand why they let motorcylists pump their own. Especially when a spill could mean gas in your lap. I just wasn't sure whether the law actually had an exemption or if it was just common practice to violate the law in those cases.

Many gas stations in Oregon are closed at night. Those that are open obviously have attendants on duty. It makes sense that having the extra labor would drive up the costs, but that argument has never convinced the oregon voters. All we have to do is look to the south and see that CA gas prices are ALWAYS higher than ours and they are self-service. Then look to the north and see that WA gas prices are generally pretty similar to ours and they have self-service. Maybe the station owners in CA and WA are just making a bigger profit or something.

 

[Vic]

The 3 real reason why you can't pump your own gas in Oregon:

1. Disabled persons who physically can't pump their own gas would be forced to pay a higher full serve price.

2. <insert various environmental reasons here>

3. Jobs


The biggest myth regarding not being able to pump your own gas is that it makes the price of gas higher. That is simply not true. The price of gas is so high in Oregon because (1) it is right next to California, which always has the highest prices in the nation, (2) we have one of the nation's highest gas taxes, and (3) Oregon does not have a oil refinery so all of our gas much be imported.
All those factors combined and the price of gas is still consistently lower in Oregon than it is in our neighboring states of Washington and California.


edit: automated commercial pumps, like Pacific Pride for example, are exempt and consumers may pump their own gas at those locations.

 

[ViRGE]

No offense to some of you guys, but why the whining over the fact that our gas is attendant pumped? I mean, I'm reading this, and I get this vibe from some of you that "Oh noes! They make attendants pump the gas! Someone stop them". If you want to pump you own gas, that's fine, just don't get gas here, but we're perfectly happy having attendants do it here, so why the fuss?

 

[Zenmervolt]

Originally posted by: FFMCobalt

Originally posted by: iloveme2
I refuse to live in a state that does not let you pump your own gas.

Good. We don't want you.

Meh, I echo his sentiment. There are two classes of people who are allowed to put fluids into my car. Myself and trained mechanics. The Oregon gas station lackeys do not fit either category.

Fine me or whatever, but I'm not going to let some high-school schmuck mess with my car.

ZV

 

[FoBoT]

it is a socialist thing, oregon is full of socialists
they don't want anybody to be unemployed by the lack of gas station attendent jobs

 

[jyates]

A lady I was dating once lived in Oregon and every time I went up there
it was strange to me that the everyday common person couldn't pump
their own gas.......

 

[NikPreviousAcct]

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt

Originally posted by: FFMCobalt

Originally posted by: iloveme2
I refuse to live in a state that does not let you pump your own gas.

Good. We don't want you.

Meh, I echo his sentiment. There are two classes of people who are allowed to put fluids into my car. Myself and trained mechanics. The Oregon gas station lackeys do not fit either category.

Fine me or whatever, but I'm not going to let some high-school schmuck mess with my car.

ZV

They're not HSers. They're all illegal minorities.

 

[geckojohn]

Originally posted by: ViRGE
No offense to some of you guys, but why the whining over the fact that our gas is attendant pumped? I mean, I'm reading this, and I get this vibe from some of you that "Oh noes! They make attendants pump the gas! Someone stop them". If you want to pump you own gas, that's fine, just don't get gas here, but we're perfectly happy having attendants do it here, so why the fuss?

gas is made to be pumped yourself... not by an attendant... it's just weird having someone pump it for you.

 

[Zenmervolt]

Originally posted by: Eli

Originally posted by: notfred
From now on it's illegal to build your own computer, you MUST buy a pre-assembled PC from Dell or a similar manufacturer. It's easier, so you should be happy, right?

That's not the same..

There are advantages to building your own computer. What advantages are there in pumping your own gas?

It's much more convienent to stay in your car. A much better analogy would be fast food. How about they make you come inside and put your burger together?

Afterall, if they didn't have workers doing it.. It would be cheaper.



It's so simple. You pull up to the pump, say "10$ Regular", the guy does it, you give him the 10.. and you're off.

Again, you're all looking at this from completely the wrong point of view. How is having to do one less thing during a process bad?

It's much, much faster to pump my own gasoline and it's worth more to me to be in and out faster than it is to have some HS schmuck fiddle with my car.

If the idea is to employ people, then mandate that the stations offer BOTH full service and self-service at the same prices. Don't make it illegal for people who want to to pump their own.

ZV

 

[ViRGE]

Originally posted by: ZenmervoltIt's much, much faster to pump my own gasoline and it's worth more to me to be in and out faster than it is to have some HS schmuck fiddle with my car.

Just for the record Zim, my car has never been damaged at a pump, my parents' cars have never been damaged, and I know of no-one else who has ever had their car damaged. While it's always a possibility, I think in practice, the odds of it happening are almost nil.

<- Sticking up for his friend who was an attendant when he was a teenager

 

[NikPreviousAcct]

Originally posted by: ViRGE

Originally posted by: ZenmervoltIt's much, much faster to pump my own gasoline and it's worth more to me to be in and out faster than it is to have some HS schmuck fiddle with my car.

Just for the record Zim, my car has never been damaged at a pump, my parents' cars have never been damaged, and I know of no-one else who has ever had their car damaged. While it's always a possibility, I think in practice, the odds of it happening are almost nil.

 

[Banana]

Originally posted by: geckojohn
... it's just weird having someone pump it for you.

I prefer to pump myself too. Unless it's somebody hot!

 

[thawolfman]

Sheeeeeeeit who cares? I've always pumped my own gas~

 

[Zenmervolt]

Originally posted by: ViRGE

Originally posted by: ZenmervoltIt's much, much faster to pump my own gasoline and it's worth more to me to be in and out faster than it is to have some HS schmuck fiddle with my car.

Just for the record Zim, my car has never been damaged at a pump, my parents' cars have never been damaged, and I know of no-one else who has ever had their car damaged. While it's always a possibility, I think in practice, the odds of it happening are almost nil.

<- Sticking up for his friend who was an attendant when he was a teenager

I don't care. Nobody touches my car but me or a trained mechanic. The only exception is when / if I lend my car to a friend or family member. The latter has happened once.

ZV

 

[ViRGE]

Originally posted by: Zenmervolt

Originally posted by: ViRGE

Originally posted by: ZenmervoltIt's much, much faster to pump my own gasoline and it's worth more to me to be in and out faster than it is to have some HS schmuck fiddle with my car.

Just for the record Zim, my car has never been damaged at a pump, my parents' cars have never been damaged, and I know of no-one else who has ever had their car damaged. While it's always a possibility, I think in practice, the odds of it happening are almost nil.

<- Sticking up for his friend who was an attendant when he was a teenager

I don't care. Nobody touches my car but me or a trained mechanic. The only exception is when / if I lend my car to a friend or family member. The latter has happened once.

ZV

Then I highly advise you don't move here any time soon.

 

[paulney]

Originally posted by: Kaervak
"I don't think it's a good deal, I don't think it's a good idea, I work in Vancouver but I buy gas here only because I don't have to pump it," said David Lawrence, a Washington motorist.

That whole getting out the car and walking a few feet to the pump thing must be too much for him to handle. :roll:

I bet he is a 300-pound fat@ass who also loves McDonald's drive-through.

 

[isekii]

Originally posted by: paulney

Originally posted by: Kaervak
"I don't think it's a good deal, I don't think it's a good idea, I work in Vancouver but I buy gas here only because I don't have to pump it," said David Lawrence, a Washington motorist.

That whole getting out the car and walking a few feet to the pump thing must be too much for him to handle. :roll:

I bet he is a 300-pound fat@ass who also loves McDonald's drive-through.

Oh Noe~!
I'm gonna burn an extra calorie by getting out of the car.
I rather burn the calorie sitting down

 

[Zenmervolt]

Originally posted by: ViRGE
Then I highly advise you don't move here any time soon.

Actually, since the Pacific Pride pumps aren't regulated by this stupid law, all I'd have to do is get a Pacific Pride card. And if I double my yearly miles driven to around 48,000 miles, I should use enough gasoline to qualify. So if I ever move to Oregon, I'll just drive a lot more.

ZV

 

[goog]

What a retarded law. :roll: I prefer to filll my own gas tank, but will use what ever is available.