pulling out a PCI card while PC is on

[BHeemsoth]

what would happen? Im just curious

 

[StageLeft]

Probably lockup.

 

[xboxist]

Hmmm... good question - not sure. It was always drilled into my skull to not touch internal components while the computer was on. So yeah, no idea.

 

[Warthog912]

Originally posted by: Skoorb
Probably lockup.

lock up w/possibility of fubaring that particular pci slot

 

[shenaniganz]

If your so curious why don't you just do it.

 

[dman]

Would depend on the card, mb, OS, etc. In general it's not a good idea. Taking one out wouldn't be as bad as putting one in... imo.

 

[vi edit]

bad mojo

 

[brnbngls]

I knew a girl in college who plugged in a CD Burner while the PC was running. Internal burner mind you, IDE. Suffice to say the PC never worked properly again. Wouldn't detect IDE devices after that.

So my general advice is no touchy

 

[aceO07]

I've tried plugging a cable into a card while it was in the computer before. Bad Idea. There was a burnt smell afterwards and goodbye card.

 

[SagaLore]

You'll permanently damage the motherboard and/or card.

 

[MrDudeMan]

Originally posted by: SagaLore
You'll permanently damage the motherboard and/or card.

this is more than likely what will happen

if you could somehow manage to pull it out exactly even, it might not hurt it, but i dunno. even then it may still FUBAR it because the mobo is sending it signals and voltage.

dont do it

 

[vi edit]

Wasn't Win2k *supposed* to have the ability to shut down the power to PCI slots so that you could do hot swaps?

Whatever came of that?

 

[FelixDeCat]

Well, if what I saw happened when someone didnt fully remove a ram stick all the way - you could short out the board and cause the power supply to burn, the pci component gold contacts to burn and the motherboard connecter to melt and burn as well.

Been there, done that.

 

[MrDudeMan]

Originally posted by: FelixDeKat
Well, if what I saw happened when someone didnt fully remove a ram stick all the way - you could short out the board and cause the power supply to burn, the pci component gold contacts to burn and the motherboard connecter to melt and burn as well.

Been there, done that.

yeah well the same thing happens if you force a stick of ram in the wrong way...been there, done that.

in my defense, i was being rushed and the ram never fight right to begin with...so you had to force it everytime. well, i forced it the wrong way this one time and took down many of its companions in the process.

 

[Woodchuck2000]

Originally posted by: vi_edit
Wasn't Win2k *supposed* to have the ability to shut down the power to PCI slots so that you could do hot swaps?

Whatever came of that?

It's entirely capable of doing so... As long as your motherboard supports it. And you won't find support for hot-swap PCI outside of high-end server boards.

 

[Viper GTS]

Originally posted by: vi_edit
Wasn't Win2k *supposed* to have the ability to shut down the power to PCI slots so that you could do hot swaps?

Whatever came of that?

Hot swappable PCI is commonplace in servers, as are hot swappable CPUs.

Viper GTS

 

[Turkish]

Originally posted by: Viper GTS

Originally posted by: vi_edit
Wasn't Win2k *supposed* to have the ability to shut down the power to PCI slots so that you could do hot swaps?

Whatever came of that?

Hot swappable PCI is commonplace in servers, as are hot swappable CPUs.

Viper GTS

you can hot swap CPUs? :Q

 

[jalaram]

Maybe on dual CPU systems?

 

[NogginBoink]

Originally posted by: Xiety

Originally posted by: Viper GTS

Originally posted by: vi_edit
Wasn't Win2k *supposed* to have the ability to shut down the power to PCI slots so that you could do hot swaps?

Whatever came of that?

Hot swappable PCI is commonplace in servers, as are hot swappable CPUs.

Viper GTS

you can hot swap CPUs? :Q

Not on any Microsoft operating system.

However, you can hot-add RAM on W2K Datacenter Edition. (Of course, provided your motherboard supports it.)

 

[OffTopic1]

You can hot swap PCI/IDE/SCSI devices even on non hot swap able mobo, and doing so is risking your hardware. I have hot swaped solid state dims disk-on-chip, bios, pci vid cards, pci/isa sounds, pci/isa network cards, pci/isa modems, IDE/SCSI hdds & floppies.

The thruth is that is doesn't make my dick any longer because I can do so, and it has killed 1 bios & 1 disk-on-chip out of the dozens of experiments that I did.

I have only proven that hot swap can be done on my own machine a few times to prove to my friends that it is possible, however the devices doesn't work or crash the computer & require a cold boot.

The experiments was done at my old job where I build imbedded firewall system. We sometime would rip apart pix & other systems to see what they use for hardware & hack their OS for comparison to our system & to see what the competitions have. Therefore we have lots of parts to play with when we are bored.

Strange thing that I found in my experiment is that unpluging & replug the same IDE HDD on a computer while it is on doesn't crash the system most of the times. However, floppy drives sometime works & sometime don't. And, all other devices require cold boot inorder for the computer to work. Linux & Unix is much more tolerable with IDE devices than Windows, because you can unmount & remount the system during a swap.

On a related note. CISCO hardware is absolutely crap for hardware because they use mostly Celeron & Pentium processors that required heat sink & a moving fan for cooling, however their proprietor OS is pretty good. As for my old company, they use none moving parts with a CPU that draw only 1.2~2W & a beautiful Linux kernel.

 

[OffTopic1]

 

[new2AMD]

Originally posted by: shenaniganz
If your so curious why don't you just do it.

 

[nageov3t]

I've done it a couple times. once on a Linux system, and the system kept running. another time on a Windows box; the box locked up, but was perfectly fine after a reboot.

 

[NogginBoink]

Originally posted by: OffTopic
You can hot swap PCI/IDE/SCSI devices even on non hot swap able mobo, and doing so is risking your hardware. I have hot swaped solid state dims disk-on-chip, bios, pci vid cards, pci/isa sounds, pci/isa network cards, pci/isa modems, IDE/SCSI hdds & floppies.

The thruth is that is doesn't make my dick any longer because I can do so, and it has killed 1 bios & 1 disk-on-chip out of the dozens of experiments that I did.

I have only proven that hot swap can be done on my own machine a few times to prove to my friends that it is possible, however the devices doesn't work or crash the computer & require a cold boot.

The experiments was at done at my old job where I build imbedded firewall system. We sometime would rip apart pix & other systems to see what they use for hardware & hack their OS for comparison to our system & to see what the competitions have. Therefore we have lots of parts to play with when we are bored.

Strange thing that I found in my experiment is that unpluging & replug the same IDE HDD on a computer while it is on doesn't crash the system most of the times. However, floppy drives sometime works & sometime don't. And, all other devices require cold boot inorder for the computer to work. Linux & Unix is much more tolerable with IDE devices than Windows, because you can unmount & remount the system during a swap.

On a related note. CISCO hardware is absolutely crap for hardware because they use mostly Celeron & Pentium processors that required heat sink & a moving fan for cooling, however their proprietor OS is pretty good. As for my old company, they use none moving parts with a CPU that draw only 1.2~2W & a beautiful Linux kernel.

SCSI disks can (in general) be hot-plugged and rescanned by W2K and work. Special hot-plug sleds are designed so that the power pins make contact before the data pins, but that's the only thing 'special' about hot plug scsi cages.

PCI cards can be hot-plugged on hardware that supports the feature and used by W2K without a reboot.

RAM can be hot-added on hardware that supports it with W2K3 and Windows can use it.

USB and Firewire are no brainers.

Hotplugging anything else should only be done with disposable hardware.

 

[NogginBoink]

To answer the original question: you'd probably get an NMI bluescreen if you hot-yanked a pci card.