PSU Question

jimbob200521

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I see a lot of people on these forums posting about their system builds, but i almost never, if at all, see other people recommend PC Power & Cooling PSU's. I was under the impression from every review that i have read about them and personal experience that they are top notch, bar none, psu's. im not trying to take anything away from other power supplies at all, im just wondering why PCPC is never really recommended by anybody but me. (it seems like) :Q

edit: plus, they have a 5 year warrenty!!!!! :eek:
 

AmberClad

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Originally posted by: jimbob200521
I see a lot of people on these forums posting about their system builds, but i almost never, if at all, see other people recommend PC Power & Cooling PSU's. I was under the impression from every review that i have read about them and personal experience that they are top notch, bar none, psu's. im not trying to take anything away from other power supplies at all, im just wondering why PCPC is never really recommended by anybody but me. (it seems like) :Q

edit: plus, they have a 5 year warrenty!!!!! :eek:

Overpriced.
 

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Originally posted by: jimbob200521
I see a lot of people on these forums posting about their system builds, but i almost never, if at all, see other people recommend PC Power & Cooling PSU's. I was under the impression from every review that i have read about them and personal experience that they are top notch, bar none, psu's. im not trying to take anything away from other power supplies at all, im just wondering why PCPC is never really recommended by anybody but me. (it seems like) :Q

edit: plus, they have a 5 year warrenty!!!!! :eek:




whenever the quality of a PSU is talked about, everyone says PCP&C is the best

Yes, they are the best PSU's, but for 95% of the builds, they are major overkill, and no one wants to throw in an extra $200 for a psu when $100 will get you the best you need for your system


I reccomend them when i NEED TO, not just because thier the best.........The 4800+ is the best CPU, but for a $1000 build im not gonna reccomend it (even though its the best)

 

jimbob200521

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Originally posted by: AmberClad
Originally posted by: jimbob200521
I see a lot of people on these forums posting about their system builds, but i almost never, if at all, see other people recommend PC Power & Cooling PSU's. I was under the impression from every review that i have read about them and personal experience that they are top notch, bar none, psu's. im not trying to take anything away from other power supplies at all, im just wondering why PCPC is never really recommended by anybody but me. (it seems like) :Q

edit: plus, they have a 5 year warrenty!!!!! :eek:

Overpriced.

do you hate them just because they are overpriced?

Originally posted by: BigCoolJesus
Originally posted by: jimbob200521
I see a lot of people on these forums posting about their system builds, but i almost never, if at all, see other people recommend PC Power & Cooling PSU's. I was under the impression from every review that i have read about them and personal experience that they are top notch, bar none, psu's. im not trying to take anything away from other power supplies at all, im just wondering why PCPC is never really recommended by anybody but me. (it seems like) :Q

edit: plus, they have a 5 year warrenty!!!!! :eek:




whenever the quality of a PSU is talked about, everyone says PCP&C is the best

Yes, they are the best PSU's, but for 95% of the builds, they are major overkill, and no one wants to throw in an extra $200 for a psu when $100 will get you the best you need for your system


I reccomend them when i NEED TO, not just because thier the best.........The 4800+ is the best CPU, but for a $1000 build im not gonna reccomend it (even though its the best)

thanks. that pretty much cleared up my question, although i would still like to hear what other people say. :)
 

t3h l337 n3wb

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Yeah, the quality IS really nice, but they're pretty much top-of-the-line, and not really mainstream due to the hefty price tag.
 

AmberClad

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Originally posted by: jimbob200521
do you hate them just because they are overpriced?

Well, hate is not exactly the right word (but you didn't exactly have a lot of options in the original post). I just mainly wouldn't recommend them to most people, just like I wouldn't recommend a Plextor, EE P4, or FX 57 over something that's cheaper but is a better value. If they were building the most top of the line system, maybe.
 

BigCoolJesus

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The only times i reccomend PCP&C's (besides top of the line builds, or people with a lot of money builds) is when someone wants to build an easily upgradable core system (meaning, theyll keep most of everything, but only upgrade the RAM, CPU or GPU)......



thats because i know if they spend the money on a PCP&C now, they wont have to buy a new psu, no matter what they upgrade to (its the only FUTURE PROOF component in my book, because you can go from a 1hdd, cpu, ram and gpu system, to a 50hdd, dual cpu, dual gpu, 4 RAM server or whatever, and it will run both just as good)
 

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Originally posted by: jimbob200521
but i almost never, if at all, see other people recommend PC Power & Cooling PSU's.

You've got to be joking. There's someone in every thread recommending that the poster buy a $200 PCP&C PSU for their grandmother's PC. Yes, they're the best quality available to consumers. Yes, you pay for that quality. You also pay a little just for the privilege of having 'the best' which has nothing to do with the actual worksmanship.

They're great, fantastic PSUs, but they're not for everyone. The vast, vast majority of people would have their needs filled better by an Enermax, Fortron or Seasonic.
 

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i have a pc power and cooling 510. i love it. i always see in forums "dont skimp on the power supply its important." i remember ordering my psu from them and they were very polite over the phone. ive heard they have top notch support also though i have not needed it. for some buying a 230.00 psu brings piece of mind that it wont smoke there hardware. now they did come out with a 850 and 1000watt psu is that over kill yes. why they came out with those i have no idea. would i buy from them again? most definately
ive seen many reviews and they are always good concerning pc power and cooling. i think its funny people will spend 600.00 dollars and a video card but when it comes to something as important as a good solid psu they try to find the cheapest they can find then wonder why they have psu related problems. is pc power and cooling for everybody? no ..but there is always people out there who want the best no matter if its a video card.....power supply...motherboard...sound card or processor or all the above.
 

Pabster

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Originally posted by: AmberClad
Overpriced.

Baloney.

What happens when that $50 power supply blows and takes your $150 motherboard with it? Not to mention the lost time and productivity.

OP: I recommend PC P&C all the time. Only supplies I use myself and the only ones I use when building for others.
 
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Originally posted by: Pabster
Originally posted by: AmberClad
Overpriced.

Baloney.

What happens when that $50 power supply blows and takes your $150 motherboard with it? Not to mention the lost time and productivity.

OP: I recommend PC P&C all the time. Only supplies I use myself and the only ones I use when building for others.


Good PSUs, but overkill for me. Seasonic is good enough. That said, stop runnign around touting your $50 PSUs and bashing PC P&C. Seriously. If you go to DFI-Street or XtremeSYstems, you won't see people recommending dirt cheap Fortron/OCZ power supplies all day long.
 

raildogg

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Fortron/Sparkle make the most reliable units around. PCP&P is unmatched in performance, sheer power but they cost too much and when you can buy units just as reliable and trustworthy, no need to spend 2 or 3 times as much. millions of people have Sparkles in their Dell computers, there is a reason for that. Dell chose the most dependable brand and also the one which was economically sound.

If I had an amazing amount of money, I would buy a PCP&P, but I dont, so I buy Sparkle or Fortron. These psus are just as reliable, if not more. Results speak for themselves.

The question is, would you spend an extra $100 on a PCP&P power supply when in doing so you would go from buying a 7800GT to a X800XL? I'd rather put that $100 on a 7800GT and get a power supply just as dependable and reliable.

If I was building an $2,500 rig with the greatest components then I will use an PCP&P 510W SLI unit. Or whatever unit they have at the moment. But for my $1,200 rig, or even a higher priced system, I think my dependable and powerful Sparkles/Fortrons will do.
 

feelingshorter

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too expensive for the average user...any other psu will do for less and its not the best psu, as there are many manufactures of server class psus out there
 

jimbob200521

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Originally posted by: raildogg
Fortron/Sparkle make the most reliable units around. PCP&P is unmatched in performance, sheer power but they cost too much and when you can buy units just as reliable and trustworthy, no need to spend 2 or 3 times as much. millions of people have Sparkles in their Dell computers, there is a reason for that. Dell chose the most dependable brand and also the one which was economically sound.

If I had an amazing amount of money, I would buy a PCP&P, but I dont, so I buy Sparkle or Fortron. These psus are just as reliable, if not more. Results speak for themselves.

The question is, would you spend an extra $100 on a PCP&P power supply when in doing so you would go from buying a 7800GT to a X800XL? I'd rather put that $100 on a 7800GT and get a power supply just as dependable and reliable.

If I was building an $2,500 rig with the greatest components then I will use an PCP&P 510W SLI unit. Or whatever unit they have at the moment. But for my $1,200 rig, or even a higher priced system, I think my dependable and powerful Sparkles/Fortrons will do.

Fortron/Sparkle the most reliable around? i dont think so, especially sparkle. arent they a company that is fairly well known for having less than top quality psu's? i havent really heard of fortron before, so i wont comment on it, but come on, sparkle?
 

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Originally posted by: jimbob200521
Originally posted by: raildogg
Fortron/Sparkle make the most reliable units around. PCP&P is unmatched in performance, sheer power but they cost too much and when you can buy units just as reliable and trustworthy, no need to spend 2 or 3 times as much. millions of people have Sparkles in their Dell computers, there is a reason for that. Dell chose the most dependable brand and also the one which was economically sound.

If I had an amazing amount of money, I would buy a PCP&P, but I dont, so I buy Sparkle or Fortron. These psus are just as reliable, if not more. Results speak for themselves.

The question is, would you spend an extra $100 on a PCP&P power supply when in doing so you would go from buying a 7800GT to a X800XL? I'd rather put that $100 on a 7800GT and get a power supply just as dependable and reliable.

If I was building an $2,500 rig with the greatest components then I will use an PCP&P 510W SLI unit. Or whatever unit they have at the moment. But for my $1,200 rig, or even a higher priced system, I think my dependable and powerful Sparkles/Fortrons will do.

Fortron/Sparkle the most reliable around? i dont think so, especially sparkle. arent they a company that is fairly well known for having less than top quality psu's? i havent really heard of fortron before, so i wont comment on it, but come on, sparkle?



Sparkles are rebadged Fortrons
 

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PCP&C is not over priced; you get exactly what you pay for. If you want the absolute best in anything it's always going to be more expensive, that?s just the way it is.
 

raildogg

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Originally posted by: jimbob200521
Originally posted by: raildogg
Fortron/Sparkle make the most reliable units around. PCP&P is unmatched in performance, sheer power but they cost too much and when you can buy units just as reliable and trustworthy, no need to spend 2 or 3 times as much. millions of people have Sparkles in their Dell computers, there is a reason for that. Dell chose the most dependable brand and also the one which was economically sound.

If I had an amazing amount of money, I would buy a PCP&P, but I dont, so I buy Sparkle or Fortron. These psus are just as reliable, if not more. Results speak for themselves.

The question is, would you spend an extra $100 on a PCP&P power supply when in doing so you would go from buying a 7800GT to a X800XL? I'd rather put that $100 on a 7800GT and get a power supply just as dependable and reliable.

If I was building an $2,500 rig with the greatest components then I will use an PCP&P 510W SLI unit. Or whatever unit they have at the moment. But for my $1,200 rig, or even a higher priced system, I think my dependable and powerful Sparkles/Fortrons will do.

Fortron/Sparkle the most reliable around? i dont think so, especially sparkle. arent they a company that is fairly well known for having less than top quality psu's? i havent really heard of fortron before, so i wont comment on it, but come on, sparkle?

you have your companies mixed up or you are ignorant.

Sparkles are used in Dell computers, they are the same as Fortron. they are very underrated and their power supplies are conservative. meaning their 250W power supply can handle a 7800GT easily, or even a 7800GTX since it can also handle 6800 Ultra which draws more power than a 7800GTX.

remember, dont judge a book by its cover. dont judge Sparkle by its name, look at the company. its essentially the same as Fortron. as for reliability, they are second to none. Dell users will tell you that